Guest BEN BEN BEN ARFA Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Newcastle to trot play the media has jumped by passes on Carrol who was often isolated when you have players like barton Tioté Ben Arfa to the games thing we saw against Chelsea why Hughton has attempted to ensure the result when he should have returned to another offensive player stoke play very low before the release of Ben Arfa and was not dangerous sorry Google translation My English teacher was too good not to focus "woman" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I love google translations. Keep it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEN BEN BEN ARFA Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I love google translations. Keep it up. next time I post in french and you translate time that I perfected in English Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I love google translations. Keep it up. next time I post in french and you translate time that I perfected in English Ooh, that's fighting talk! Fight fight fight... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 My Tuppence: Colo did well, gotten beaten to a header that hit the post but he's never going to win those, overall i thought he did well/ Williamson gotten beaten to often by Jones for flick ons. They didn't dop much with them but i expected MW to be more dominant in the air tbh. Perch, did alright. Kept Etherington quiet mostly, unlucky for OG, happens to everyone at some point. Routledge seems to not have the best 1st touch and that limits his options when he gets the ball. Also seemed a bit in his shell. Seemed to lack ideas as to how to get himself into the game. Tiote, did ok. Would have left him on so Barton could have kept going forward. Barton, tried. Looking for decent passes down the channels, trouble was he didn't have much movement in front of him. Barfa, ok. If he was injured then right to sub him otherwise should have left him on and pushed him upfront. We needed some quick feet in their box. Nolan. Was no better than their players. He's good with the 2nd ball (i think the only thing he's good at) but as we weren't even winning the 1st ball i wasn't sure what he was offering. Carroll, too static. We needed a player with quick feet and someone to make little runs into the channels. We needed someone upfront to start pulling their back 4 around and that never happened. If we'd have moved them about we could have found spaces to shoot. Routledge never really turned their LB, in fact we rarely got in behind them. Their defence was more often that not facing out, that makes it easier for them to head it clear. We could have played through the middle if we have smarter players making little runs, splitting the CB and FB. After about 60 mins i thought we should try Ameobi, at least he may have drawn a foul or a penalty. We were too predictable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I can't believe we are not playing 4 4 2 at home. Carroll and Ameobi up front with Ben Arfa in the hole I would play: Krul Raylor Campbell Colo Jose Tiote Barton Jonas Ben Arfa Carroll Ameobi If that doesn't work we at least have the option of bringing on Routledge to run at the full back when he is tired. I also think we need Campbell because he won't allow the opposition to bully him, and he is a presence in the opposition penalty area at corners, free kicks etc. Not a bad line-up at all... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I can't believe we are not playing 4 4 2 at home. Carroll and Ameobi up front with Ben Arfa in the hole I would play: Krul Raylor Campbell Colo Jose Tiote Barton Jonas Ben Arfa Carroll Ameobi If that doesn't work we at least have the option of bringing on Routledge to run at the full back when he is tired. I also think we need Campbell because he won't allow the opposition to bully him, and he is a presence in the opposition penalty area at corners, free kicks etc. Not a bad line-up at all... Right side is offering little or nothing there like. Barton will float inside as its his natural position which is turn will leave R.Taylor exposed which we can't do due to his inferior defending techniques and lack of pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Would of people rather have beaten Blackpool and Stoke at home than Villa and Everton? I would say Yes, while winning in 3 points, taking it against rival clubs in the league means it's bit more valuable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Would of people rather have beaten Blackpool and Stoke at home than Villa and Everton? I would say Yes, while winning in 3 points, taking it against rival clubs in the league means it's bit more valuable. I wouldn't, but I can see why people would... it fits into all the cliches about home record and beating the teams around you. We've shown we can compete with anyone, that's something Hughton can use. We could also easily have beaten Blackpool and drawn with Stoke on another day. We're in a decent position in the table, no need to panic at this point. There are warning signs with selection and subs, but Hughton still has time to correct them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Would of people rather have beaten Blackpool and Stoke at home than Villa and Everton? I would say Yes, while winning in 3 points, taking it against rival clubs in the league means it's bit more valuable. I wouldn't, but I can see why people would... it fits into all the cliches about home record and beating the teams around you. We've shown we can compete with anyone, that's something Hughton can use. We could also easily have beaten Blackpool and drawn with Stoke on another day. We're in a decent position in the table, no need to panic at this point. There are warning signs with selection and subs, but Hughton still has time to correct them. The old football cliche is true, you are only as good as your last game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Well it isn't, but I see what you're saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Our attack was almost totally ineffective yesterday. Nolan has to go. CH has to be more ruthless like Keegan realising David Kelly did well to get us out of the chamionship but ditching him because we clearly needed better quality once in the Premiership and purchased Beardsley and Cole. CH has Ben arfa he clearly needs to partner him with Carroll/Ameobi as Nolan provides us with next to nothing and crucially has no pace and we absolutely can't drop one of our best players in Jonas to accomodate the likes of Nolan. V citeh try: Krul Perch Willy Colo Jose Routledge Barton Tiote Jonas Ben Arfa Carroll/Ameobi Soderberg Campbell Raylor Guthrie (if fit) Smith otherwise Nolan Ranger Ameobi Even Partnering Shola and Carroll could be a good idea against weaker CB's. I hope we don't implode before CH realises he needs to drop Nolan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Would of people rather have beaten Blackpool and Stoke at home than Villa and Everton? Can you rephrase the question? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Terrible second half. No energy and no purpose. I don't know what Hughton said at half time because it didn't work, and questions must be asked about what we did over the past week in training because our defending from set pieces was amateur-stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Would of people rather have beaten Blackpool and Stoke at home than Villa and Everton? Can you rephrase the question? Would of people rather have got 6 points off Blackpool and Stoke, than the 6 gathered against Villa and Everton? HAPPY NOW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Would of people rather have beaten Blackpool and Stoke at home than Villa and Everton? Can you rephrase the question? Would of people rather have got 6 points off Blackpool and Stoke, than the 6 gathered against Villa and Everton? HAPPY NOW Have man have, plus 'Would people rather have'.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Colo was, by far, our best player. Routledge and Nolan seemed to be in a 'who could be more invisible' competition, which Routledge won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Would of people rather have beaten Blackpool and Stoke at home than Villa and Everton? Can you rephrase the question? Would of people rather have got 6 points off Blackpool and Stoke, than the 6 gathered against Villa and Everton? HAPPY NOW :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Would of people rather have beaten Blackpool and Stoke at home than Villa and Everton? Can you rephrase the question? Would of people rather have got 6 points off Blackpool and Stoke, than the 6 gathered against Villa and Everton? HAPPY NOW Have man have, plus 'Would people rather have'.... 'Would people rather have taken', is that acceptable.... Edit: Would have people actually preferred to have taken..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 neesy, you're going to get me banned again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I hate the way Stoke go about winning football matches. Can't remember seeing them score a goal which wasn't a header or a bundled effort into the net after a goal mouth scramble. Fair play it works for them but they're just the footballing equivilent of people spamming grenades and rocket launchers on Modern Warfare 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Would of people rather have beaten Blackpool and Stoke at home than Villa and Everton? Can you rephrase the question? Would of people rather have got 6 points off Blackpool and Stoke, than the 6 gathered against Villa and Everton? HAPPY NOW Have man have, plus 'Would people rather have'.... 'Would people rather have taken', is that acceptable.... Edit: Would have people actually preferred to have taken..... It was that perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Would of people rather have beaten Blackpool and Stoke at home than Villa and Everton? Can you rephrase the question? Would of people rather have got 6 points off Blackpool and Stoke, than the 6 gathered against Villa and Everton? HAPPY NOW Have man have, plus 'Would people rather have'.... 'Would people rather have taken', is that acceptable.... Edit: Would have people actually preferred to have taken..... It was that perfect. I'm useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 In regard to your eventual question Neesy: I'm not sure. I'd probably take Villa & Everton as it shows we can beat anyone on our day, but losing to BP & Stoke has shown we're a soft touch at home, that we are very much beatable and have given valuable points to our rivals, and it's that last part which sticks a bit. Difficult to be sure which i'd rather have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Would of people rather have beaten Blackpool and Stoke at home than Villa and Everton? I would say Yes, while winning in 3 points, taking it against rival clubs in the league means it's bit more valuable. I wouldn't, but I can see why people would... it fits into all the cliches about home record and beating the teams around you. We've shown we can compete with anyone, that's something Hughton can use. We could also easily have beaten Blackpool and drawn with Stoke on another day. We're in a decent position in the table, no need to panic at this point. There are warning signs with selection and subs, but Hughton still has time to correct them. We have NOT shown that we can 'compete with anyone'...we lost at SJP to two sides that most people would have bet on us beating at home. We were lucky to hit on a Villa side in the middle of a management change(remember NUFC at OT after Allardyce was fired ?) and I reckon they would 'do' us now... Everton have had a bad start and were without Tim Cahill when we played them. As for Hughton 'using' something, how about using his brain(and b---s)and dropping Nolan when he is not contributing to the side ? Will you still say we have proved we can compete with anyone if we lose at home to the Mackems ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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