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Who's the other striker though, that's the problem. And if you do that, where does Ben Arfa fit in? Not sure it's the answer, much as i like Lovenkrands. For me Ben Arfa must play behind Carroll with Routledge and Jonas supporting effectively from wide and not acting as orthodox wingers. We can play this way but our players now seem to struggle with not pinging it to the big guy, which is more annoying since we didn't do it last year.

 

We haven't done it the last two games either. Surely one thing they should've learned from the Chelsea match is that if we keep recycling the ball and probing waiting for a chance to arise we will get success instead of panicking and humping it long aimlessly.

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Next time we play this mob i want us to have a comfortable lead, keep playing for throws, dry the ball for 30-45 seconds, take a normal short throw and repeat.

 

That would be some excellent time-wasting like. Particularly at the Britannia due to the run-up you can get. Dry the ball for 30 seconds (demanding a towel - wouldn't want to get your shirt too wet, you're not an animal), take a massive run-up and just throw it a metre in front of you to a teammate.

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Next time we play this mob i want us to have a comfortable lead, keep playing for throws, dry the ball for 30-45 seconds, take a normal short throw and repeat.

 

That would be some excellent time-wasting like. Particularly at the Britannia due to the run-up you can get. Dry the ball for 30 seconds (demanding a towel - wouldn't want to get your shirt too wet, you're not an animal), take a massive run-up and just throw it a metre in front of you to a teammate.

 

I'm sure it was the 1-1 with us a couple of seasons ago where the ball was actually only in play half an hour or something daft.

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The rumour I heard was that Tiote was injured, which was fair enough but we fell apart when him and Ben Arfa went off.

 

Also, you have to ask the question - just how shite does Kevin Nolan have to be to get subbed?  His sumo impression for the free kicks was just embarrassing!

Ben Arfa was definately pointing and feeling his left thigh when he came off, dunno about Chick though.

 

Also, ben Arfa is not a left winger, drifts about too much to do that and needs a free role behind or playing off Carroll with jonas on the left to link up with Enrique who was often caught in possession with no one to pass to or making runs for him when Ben Arfa was on the field.

 

Routledge was poor and Perch just looks nervous.

 

We played to their strengths too much instead of keeping it on the floor and passing it around them and running at them which they didn't like when we did that.

 

Carroll was also at fault for Jones goal as well as the header when he hit the bar, lost him both times. The first time Jones hit the post he elbowed Collocinni but the ref and linesman let him get away with it.

 

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Guest BEN BEN BEN ARFA

Newcastle to trot play the media has jumped by passes on Carrol who was often isolated

when you have players like barton Tioté Ben Arfa to the games

thing we saw against Chelsea

why Hughton has attempted to ensure the result when he should have returned to another offensive player

stoke play very low before the release of Ben Arfa and was not dangerous

 

 

sorry Google translation  :blush:

My English teacher was too good not to focus "woman" :smitten:

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Guest BEN BEN BEN ARFA

I love google translations. Keep it up.

  ;D

next time I post in french and you translate

time that I perfected in English

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My Tuppence:

 

Colo did well, gotten beaten to a header that hit the post but he's never going to win those, overall i thought he did well/

 

Williamson gotten beaten to often by Jones for flick ons. They didn't dop much with them but i expected MW to be more dominant in the air tbh.

 

Perch, did alright. Kept Etherington quiet mostly, unlucky for OG, happens to everyone at some point.

 

Routledge seems to not have the best 1st touch and that limits his options when he gets the ball. Also seemed a bit in his shell. Seemed to lack ideas as to how to get himself into the game.

 

Tiote, did ok. Would have left him on so Barton could have kept going forward.

 

Barton, tried. Looking for decent passes down the channels, trouble was he didn't have much movement in front of him.

 

Barfa, ok. If he was injured then right to sub him otherwise should have left him on and pushed him upfront. We needed some quick feet in their box.

 

Nolan. Was no better than their players. He's good with the 2nd ball (i think the only thing he's good at) but as we weren't even winning the 1st ball i wasn't sure what he was offering.

 

Carroll, too static. We needed a player with quick feet and someone to make little runs into the channels.

 

We needed someone upfront to start pulling their back 4 around and that never happened. If we'd have moved them about we could have found spaces to shoot. Routledge never really turned their LB, in fact we rarely got in behind them. Their defence was more often that not facing out, that makes it easier for them to head it clear. We could have played through the middle if we have smarter players making little runs, splitting the CB and FB. After about 60 mins i thought we should try Ameobi, at least he may have drawn a foul or a penalty. We were too predictable.

 

 

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I can't believe we are not playing 4 4 2 at home.  Carroll and Ameobi up front with Ben Arfa in the hole

 

I would play:

 

             Krul

 

Raylor   Campbell  Colo    Jose

 

              Tiote

 

     Barton        Jonas

 

               Ben Arfa

 

   Carroll       Ameobi

 

If that doesn't work we at least have the option of bringing on Routledge to run at the full back when he is tired.  I also think we need Campbell because he won't allow the opposition to bully him, and he is a presence in the opposition penalty area at corners, free kicks etc.

 

 

Not a bad line-up at all...

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I can't believe we are not playing 4 4 2 at home.  Carroll and Ameobi up front with Ben Arfa in the hole

 

I would play:

 

             Krul

 

Raylor   Campbell  Colo    Jose

 

              Tiote

 

     Barton        Jonas

 

               Ben Arfa

 

   Carroll       Ameobi

 

If that doesn't work we at least have the option of bringing on Routledge to run at the full back when he is tired.  I also think we need Campbell because he won't allow the opposition to bully him, and he is a presence in the opposition penalty area at corners, free kicks etc.

 

 

Not a bad line-up at all...

 

Right side is offering little or nothing there like. Barton will float inside as its his natural position which is turn will leave R.Taylor exposed which we can't do due to his inferior defending techniques and lack of pace.

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Would of people rather have beaten Blackpool and Stoke at home than Villa and Everton?

 

I would say Yes, while winning in 3 points, taking it against rival clubs in the league means it's bit more valuable.

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Would of people rather have beaten Blackpool and Stoke at home than Villa and Everton?

 

I would say Yes, while winning in 3 points, taking it against rival clubs in the league means it's bit more valuable.

 

I wouldn't, but I can see why people would... it fits into all the cliches about home record and beating the teams around you.

 

We've shown we can compete with anyone, that's something Hughton can use. We could also easily have beaten Blackpool and drawn with Stoke on another day.

 

We're in a decent position in the table, no need to panic at this point. There are warning signs with selection and subs, but Hughton still has time to correct them.

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Would of people rather have beaten Blackpool and Stoke at home than Villa and Everton?

 

I would say Yes, while winning in 3 points, taking it against rival clubs in the league means it's bit more valuable.

 

I wouldn't, but I can see why people would... it fits into all the cliches about home record and beating the teams around you.

 

We've shown we can compete with anyone, that's something Hughton can use. We could also easily have beaten Blackpool and drawn with Stoke on another day.

 

We're in a decent position in the table, no need to panic at this point. There are warning signs with selection and subs, but Hughton still has time to correct them.

 

The old football cliche is true, you are only as good as your last game.

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Our attack was almost totally ineffective yesterday. Nolan has to go. CH has to be more ruthless like Keegan realising David Kelly did well to get us out of the chamionship but ditching him because we clearly needed better quality once in the Premiership and purchased Beardsley and Cole.

 

CH has Ben arfa he clearly needs to partner him with Carroll/Ameobi as Nolan provides us with next to nothing and crucially has no pace and we absolutely can't drop one of our best players in Jonas to accomodate the likes of Nolan.

 

V citeh try:

 

                        Krul

 

Perch     Willy         Colo            Jose

             

Routledge   Barton   Tiote     Jonas

 

               Ben Arfa

 

                         Carroll/Ameobi       

Soderberg

Campbell

Raylor

Guthrie (if fit) Smith otherwise

Nolan

Ranger

Ameobi

 

Even Partnering Shola and Carroll could be a good idea against weaker CB's.

 

I hope we don't implode before CH realises he needs to drop Nolan

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Would of people rather have beaten Blackpool and Stoke at home than Villa and Everton?

 

Can you rephrase the question?

 

Would of people rather have got 6 points off Blackpool and Stoke, than the 6 gathered against Villa and Everton?

 

HAPPY NOW

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Would of people rather have beaten Blackpool and Stoke at home than Villa and Everton?

 

Can you rephrase the question?

 

Would of people rather have got 6 points off Blackpool and Stoke, than the 6 gathered against Villa and Everton?

 

HAPPY NOW

 

Have man have, plus 'Would people rather have'....

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Would of people rather have beaten Blackpool and Stoke at home than Villa and Everton?

 

Can you rephrase the question?

 

Would of people rather have got 6 points off Blackpool and Stoke, than the 6 gathered against Villa and Everton?

 

HAPPY NOW

 

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Guest neesy111

Would of people rather have beaten Blackpool and Stoke at home than Villa and Everton?

 

Can you rephrase the question?

 

Would of people rather have got 6 points off Blackpool and Stoke, than the 6 gathered against Villa and Everton?

 

HAPPY NOW

 

Have man have, plus 'Would people rather have'....

 

'Would people rather have taken', is that acceptable....

 

Edit: Would have people actually preferred to have taken.....

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