ikri Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 On 03/10/2010 at 21:00, cp40 said: Quote I don't think many (if any) of them can keep up with the pace of the game so they're consistently behind the play. The same goes for linesmen. A fast ball played from one end of the pitch to the other with a fast runner on the end of it will see the referee 30-40 yards behind play with only the barest idea of what's going on, like today with the Tevez "penalty". Without the benefit of replays they're never going to be able to make the correct judgements. Without replays I think the only way forward is going to be another couple of linesmen on either side and/or a couple of additional referees who can stay in either half. cant keep up with the play, cos of the weight of the bags of Gold in thier back pockets. FUCKING CHEATING BASTARD REF. I couldn't say if they were on the take or if they were making simple (and crap) calculations like Tevez is a better player than Williamson therefore that's a foul, or Shola has all the grace of Bambi on ice therefore he probably just fell over. Judgements based more on their preconceived ideas of what players are like than on what's actually going happening in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 On 03/10/2010 at 21:06, ikri said: Quote Quote I don't think many (if any) of them can keep up with the pace of the game so they're consistently behind the play. The same goes for linesmen. A fast ball played from one end of the pitch to the other with a fast runner on the end of it will see the referee 30-40 yards behind play with only the barest idea of what's going on, like today with the Tevez "penalty". Without the benefit of replays they're never going to be able to make the correct judgements. Without replays I think the only way forward is going to be another couple of linesmen on either side and/or a couple of additional referees who can stay in either half. cant keep up with the play, cos of the weight of the bags of Gold in thier back pockets. FUCKING CHEATING BASTARD REF. I couldn't say if they were on the take or if they were making simple (and crap) calculations like Tevez is a better player than Williamson therefore that's a foul, or Shola has all the grace of Bambi on ice therefore he probably just fell over. Judgements based more on their preconceived ideas of what players are like than on what's actually going happening in the game. ie pandering to reputations- is a disease spreading amongst the. CHEATING FUCKING REFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Far too many to name. Webb, Stroud, Styles, Atkinson, Andre Marriner are all high up on the cunt list. Has to be Mike fucking Rilley for me though. That man. On a serious note though, is it that the standard of refereeing is so bad, or the game has become to fast paced and quick that's it's becomne way more difficult to referee? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
broonalegeordie Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 they're all a lot worse than we saw last year on the CCC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Not that i'm excusing Atkinson's pitiful performance today, but as a collective, i'd say the league's linesmen are worse than the league's refs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
broonalegeordie Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 i'd say all PL refs are more corrupt than italian football. its sick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Urgh. They're not corrupt, they're just fucking shit. There's a lot wrong with the sport in this country but that's one thing we can actually hold our heads high about. The definition of 'corrupt' is a bit vague, i suppose, but it's not an adjective i'd ever pin on the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
broonalegeordie Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 ok they're fucking shit, for arguments sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steggy Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Stuart Atwell is a fucking mong of the highest order. Don't think anybody is worse than that. Absolute bellend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 On 03/10/2010 at 21:26, broonalegeordie said: ok they're fucking shit, for arguments sake. I rest easy now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 sick of debating refs. when will the technology be introduced and bring football into 21st century? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustynrg Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 On 03/10/2010 at 21:24, Yorkie-Geordie said: Urgh. They're not corrupt, they're just f***ing s***. There's a lot wrong with the sport in this country but that's one thing we can actually hold our heads high about. The definition of 'corrupt' is a bit vague, i suppose, but it's not an adjective i'd ever pin on the Premier League. Why not? Because they're English? And the English are incorruptible? Sorry but no-one can be as crap as that ref today. That was the definition of corruption. And if it wasn't corruption he should never ref again. But heyho, no-one will investigate because they think "that doesn't happen in the Premier League", well it happens everywhere else so why not here? And probably the reason the Championship refs are better is that no-one bothers giving them spondoolies. Easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I honestly cannot remember a season when we havent had refs as bad as we have had this season. Utterly embarrassing at times this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 On 03/10/2010 at 21:38, dustynrg said: Quote Urgh. They're not corrupt, they're just f***ing s***. There's a lot wrong with the sport in this country but that's one thing we can actually hold our heads high about. The definition of 'corrupt' is a bit vague, i suppose, but it's not an adjective i'd ever pin on the Premier League. Why not? Because they're English? And the English are incorruptible? Sorry but no-one can be as crap as that ref today. That was the definition of corruption. And if it wasn't corruption he should never ref again. But heyho, no-one will investigate because they think "that doesn't happen in the Premier League", well it happens everywhere else so why not here? And probably the reason the Championship refs are better is that no-one bothers giving them spondoolies. Easy. Nah. There's some proper shite officiating in the Premier League, but there was some serious fucking dross last year. Saw some mindbogglingly shite referees come to SJP last year. It was easier to stomach/miss cos we pissed on all opposition anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Are the premier league able to implement a video referral system of their own, or do FIFA have to grant them permission to do it ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest black n white Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 On 03/10/2010 at 22:09, Adam^ said: Are the premier league able to implement a video referral system of their own, or do FIFA have to grant them permission to do it ? i think FIFA have to give them permission Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 On 03/10/2010 at 21:24, Yorkie-Geordie said: Urgh. They're not corrupt, they're just f***ing s***. There's a lot wrong with the sport in this country but that's one thing we can actually hold our heads high about. The definition of 'corrupt' is a bit vague, i suppose, but it's not an adjective i'd ever pin on the Premier League. They are corrupt. Everyone is corrupt. Everything is corrupt. The bigger problem is incompetence, but do not think that England is free of the issues that plague the rest of the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 On 03/10/2010 at 22:11, black n white said: Quote Are the premier league able to implement a video referral system of their own, or do FIFA have to grant them permission to do it ? i think FIFA have to give them permission Its so fucking stupid. There is no way to test it in a proper competitive environment to show it works unless FIFA say yes. FIFA won't say yes as the don't think it would work..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 The FA and PL really need to address the incompetence of referees and their assistants, they try to market their product as the best in the world - it may or may not be - but the people refereeing are spoiling the product and in some cases illustrating a level of incompetence which borders on and must raise suspicions of cheating. Their case would be helped if players like Cattermole, Henry and de Jong were just banned for life and removed from the game. There can be no place in modern day football for thugs whose role is to follow their managers instructions to go out and hurt key opposition players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 They're paid thousands to get the big decisions right. And they're not getting them right. Sometimes there is a reasonable explanation but yesterday there could be no excuses for Atkinson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 On 04/10/2010 at 11:40, PM said: They're paid thousands to get the big decisions right. And they're not getting them right. Sometimes there is a reasonable explanation but yesterday there could be no excuses for Atkinson. He cheated - End of. He's bought into the sucking up to Big spending club paradigm. Football is shit now cos of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Mike Dean has the odd time when he's absolutely terrible, but is generally good. Clattenberg is decent, but obviously we never get him and maybe that's why I think he's good. Atwell still has the crown for me. Absolutely shocking referee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Does Styles still ref the Premiership/at all? He was woeful. Atwell out of the current crop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 I don't think their is one ref in the Premier League that is actually any good, I was dissapointed lat year when a few came down to manage us on occasions. The standard of refereeing in this country is pretty low to be honest, but not only that but they are backed up by finacial advisors (FA) instead of people who actually know anything about the game or have the passion for it. This is what will be the FA's down fall, because now they don't even have the ability to coach a good standard of referee's for the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 On 04/10/2010 at 14:51, Kid Icarus said: Atwell still has the crown for me. Absolutely shocking referee. How he can referee in the so called 'best league in the world' is beyond me. The 'punishment' refs receive for poor games is far too weak. They miss a game. Sometimes they get demoted down a league, but generally a week or two later are back in the thick of things. They are paid good money to do a job they chose to do. They haven't been forced to do this, so they don't have a leg to stand on by bleating about the pressures. They were aware of that when they aimed to become a Top Flight Ref, besides good refs don't get half as much 'pressure' as poor ones. Refs should be asked to sit and review video footage of games during the week they're not refing games to get an external view point of other refs games. Provide feedback to each other and generally help each other improve. The FA should offer workshops, and speak to other countries (not Italy) to share referee practice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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