Skirge Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Given what he said in the post match interview about now that the defending is working better he's planning to start concentrating on threatening the oppostion's goal, i'd be interested to see what the tactical plan is. I hope he doesn't just think putting HBA in there will be the cure to all ills. I reckon its exactly what he is counting on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Why put him on the bench then if he was nowhere near ready to play? Not many clubs would sell their only leftback then sign a new one who could not go straight into the team. The formation we play may not be 4-4-2 but those 11 are our best players. I dunno if they are our 11 best players. I'd want to see Marveaux involved and I don't think Best is the answer long term, I don't rate him very highly and nowhere near as highly as some on here. Ba is the long term answer for me and I'd much prefer to see Ba with Ben Arfa behind him. Striker our a weakest area of the team, I'd rather not play two of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Why put him on the bench then if he was nowhere near ready to play? Not many clubs would sell their only leftback then sign a new one who could not go straight into the team. The formation we play may not be 4-4-2 but those 11 are our best players. Marveux should be in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Got it horribly wrong last night, yet we still kept a clean sheet and Krul didn't have a save to make. A lot of that was down to their shit finishing though. Time will tell if this was a good result or not, QPR looked really lively and fast as fuck, interested to see how they get on in their next 3 or 4 matches. We did make them look like Barca though, and gave them far too much time, space and respect. Roll on Saturday, if we play the same clueless tactics, have Cabaye and Tiote both sat on the centre backs toes and continue to pump long balls to Shola, I might start to question AP's sanity. As I'm a glass half full kinda guy, I would suggest he will learn from his mistakes and make 1 or 2 changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Considering we cleared 2/3 off the line this line about Krul not having to make a save that I keep reading makes me laugh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 People thinking more along these lines? -------------------Krul Simo------Tayls-------Colo-------Santon ---------Cabaye-----------Tiote Marv--------------HBA------------Jonas -------------------Ba/Best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 People thinking more along these lines? -------------------Krul Simo------Tayls-------Colo-------Santon ---------Cabaye-----------Tiote Marv--------------HBA------------Jonas -------------------Best Yep, but with Ba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Considering we cleared 2/3 off the line this line about Krul not having to make a save that I keep reading makes me laugh. So he didn't have to make a save then? Simpson and S.Taylor did it for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Miy biggest concern is not with the football that we are playing as I am convinced that that will improve. What concerns me more is trying to work out where the goals will actually come from. Assuming our best front six will line up like this: Marveaux/Obertan Cabaye Tiote Jonas Ben Arfa Ba/Best You are really relying on Ba/Best getting at least 15 league goals in the season and hoping that the rest of the midfield chip in with at least 20 goals between them. And though that midfield might be a pretty good one, it is not known for being prolific. Disclaimer - I would like to point out that in no way is this post intended to bemoan the loss of Nolan and/or Barton in any way, shape or form. I don't think they would make any difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 People thinking more along these lines? -------------------Krul Simo------Tayls-------Colo-------Santon ---------Cabaye-----------Tiote Marv--------------HBA------------Jonas -------------------Ba/Best I would even play 4-2-3-1/4-4-1-1 against Villa, obviously HBA won't play but Marv, Jonas and Obertan could start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Considering we cleared 2/3 off the line this line about Krul not having to make a save that I keep reading makes me laugh. So he didn't have to make a save then? Simpson and S.Taylor did it for him. Got caught out a couple of times coming for the ball and then changing his mind, SWP tried chipping him both times one was going in but for Taylor's great clearance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Considering we cleared 2/3 off the line this line about Krul not having to make a save that I keep reading makes me laugh. So he didn't have to make a save then? Simpson and S.Taylor did it for him. Got caught out a couple of times coming for the ball and then changing his mind, SWP tried chipping him both times one was going in but for Taylor's great clearance. I know he did mate. It was more a comment on how we managed to keep another clean sheet and their poor finishing, but some pedant decided to have a moan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Why put him on the bench then if he was nowhere near ready to play? Not many clubs would sell their only leftback then sign a new one who could not go straight into the team. The formation we play may not be 4-4-2 but those 11 are our best players. he is ready to play, you need to remember for a young lad to get trounced on his first game can have detrimental effects on his psyche , and that could have led to a bad introduction and a horrible long winding season for the lad. obviously had we play well and was winning it would have been perfect way to introduce the lad around the last third of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Considering we cleared 2/3 off the line this line about Krul not having to make a save that I keep reading makes me laugh. So he didn't have to make a save then? Simpson and S.Taylor did it for him. Wow you really are glass more than half full lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Considering we cleared 2/3 off the line this line about Krul not having to make a save that I keep reading makes me laugh. So he didn't have to make a save then? Simpson and S.Taylor did it for him. Got caught out a couple of times coming for the ball and then changing his mind, SWP tried chipping him both times one was going in but for Taylor's great clearance. I know he did mate. It was more a comment on how we managed to keep another clean sheet and their poor finishing, but some pedant decided to have a moan. Pop at me I'm guessing. You were making it come across that he had noubt to do but anyone watching the match knew that wasn't true. It wasn't due to great defence we kept a clean sheet last night it was down to their piss poor finishing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Considering we cleared 2/3 off the line this line about Krul not having to make a save that I keep reading makes me laugh. So he didn't have to make a save then? Simpson and S.Taylor did it for him. Got caught out a couple of times coming for the ball and then changing his mind, SWP tried chipping him both times one was going in but for Taylor's great clearance. I know he did mate. It was more a comment on how we managed to keep another clean sheet and their poor finishing, but some pedant decided to have a moan. Pop at me I'm guessing. You were making it come across that he had noubt to do but anyone watching the match knew that wasn't true. It wasn't due to great defence we kept a clean sheet last night it was down to their p*ss poor finishing. exactly, we were not fortunate last because of our defence, we were fortunate because of QPR can't finnish for toffees, the amount of chances and shots they had, would a good defence allow that to happen. no. didnt help matters by our midfielders being out numbered and out ran either, thus led to the failing to support the defence effectively, and by the way entirely ignored by stevie wonder pardew all night, thanks pard you f***ing idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Is this the classic "look at us getting a clean sheet away from home, our defence is solid" from Pardew? Your defence was anything but solid, and although I suppose he's saying that just for something to say, he'll know fine well it was purely QPR's awful finishing that gave you a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ykmkmdd Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Not sure if it's been posted, but a decent interview on the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14897097.stm? Speaks very well, admits we were poor and seems to realise where we went wrong - vastly preferable to the approach of someone like Bruce who would've tried to pretend they had dominated the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Not sure if it's been posted, but a decent interview on the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14897097.stm? Speaks very well, admits we were poor and seems to realise where we went wrong - vastly preferable to the approach of someone like Bruce who would've tried to pretend they had dominated the game. f*** off pards,shit interview, hindsights a f***ing great thing but not in football, he knew we were out numbered in midfield yet he didnt know how to put an extra man in midfield?, not until the 81st minute. errrr dime bar!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Number 9 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Then why didn't he realise where we went wrong DURING the game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Not sure if it's been posted, but a decent interview on the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14897097.stm? Speaks very well, admits we were poor and seems to realise where we went wrong - vastly preferable to the approach of someone like Bruce who would've tried to pretend they had dominated the game. Canny interview. One of the things I like about Pardew is that he does give a good interview. He might not always think through everything he says but at least he has something to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Considering we cleared 2/3 off the line this line about Krul not having to make a save that I keep reading makes me laugh. So he didn't have to make a save then? Simpson and S.Taylor did it for him. Got caught out a couple of times coming for the ball and then changing his mind, SWP tried chipping him both times one was going in but for Taylor's great clearance. I know he did mate. It was more a comment on how we managed to keep another clean sheet and their poor finishing, but some pedant decided to have a moan. Pop at me I'm guessing. You were making it come across that he had noubt to do but anyone watching the match knew that wasn't true. It wasn't due to great defence we kept a clean sheet last night it was down to their p*ss poor finishing. Well I thought the back 4 was ok ish, barring Raylor who had an absolute car crash of a game, pretty much everything came down that flank. Poor finishing to a degree, but we did scrap and put challenges in on a lot of their efforts, which obviously helped. They missed the Bothroyd sitter and SWP's header, which was far more difficult then what Sky made out I thought, but the rest of their chances we had pressure on the ball or lads on the line. Yeah, we should have lost 3-0, just trying to put a positive slant on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Considering we cleared 2/3 off the line this line about Krul not having to make a save that I keep reading makes me laugh. So he didn't have to make a save then? Simpson and S.Taylor did it for him. Got caught out a couple of times coming for the ball and then changing his mind, SWP tried chipping him both times one was going in but for Taylor's great clearance. I know he did mate. It was more a comment on how we managed to keep another clean sheet and their poor finishing, but some pedant decided to have a moan. Pop at me I'm guessing. You were making it come across that he had noubt to do but anyone watching the match knew that wasn't true. It wasn't due to great defence we kept a clean sheet last night it was down to their p*ss poor finishing. Well I thought the back 4 was ok ish, barring Raylor who had an absolute car crash of a game, pretty much everything came down that flank. Poor finishing to a degree, but we did scrap and put challenges in on a lot of their efforts, which obviously helped. They missed the Bothroyd sitter and SWP's header, which was far more difficult then what Sky made out I thought, but the rest of their chances we had pressure on the ball or lads on the line. Yeah, we should have lost 3-0, just trying to put a positive slant on it thats not very positive lol, try harder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 4 league defeats in the calendar year. 1 defeat in last 11. It's not pretty though, is it? That was one of his major selling points upon arrival, that he would bring us a "better brand" of football. This season has been pretty shocking so far in that respect. Not complaining about the points haul, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Not sure if it's been posted, but a decent interview on the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14897097.stm? Speaks very well, admits we were poor and seems to realise where we went wrong - vastly preferable to the approach of someone like Bruce who would've tried to pretend they had dominated the game. More Pardew waffle. He says that the midfield was probably out-numbered, but you can put as many numbers in there as you like, if you whack it long over their heads it will make no difference. Here's a clue Pards - watch Man U, Chelsea or Man City and try and spot what they do different to us. They don't fucking whack it down the pitch towards two 6ft Neanderthals you numbskull. Just pick a team capable of playing football and ask them to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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