gbandit Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Hmm, seems a bit suspect that he'd disclose the release clause in a talk-in. The other stuff is all pretty standard but if it is true then I like what he has had to say. The whole thing about commitment to the club is absolutely essential and you can see that in the way the team plays for each other. You look at some other clubs, Aston Villa for example and there's no team spirit getting them the results they need. The thing about Carroll, if that is true, then Carroll just nailed himself anally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Interesting stuff. Especially regarding AOC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 If that is true then its pretty clear Santon was actually signed as RB and probably where he will be next season..... Interesting about Oxlade and i hope we get a top quality CB in the summer too and if hes as confident as all that then it probably means it will be done fairly quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Can't say i'm feeling any easier about potential departures having read that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToonZA Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Hmm, seems a bit suspect that he'd disclose the release clause in a talk-in. The other stuff is all pretty standard but if it is true then I like what he has had to say. The whole thing about commitment to the club is absolutely essential and you can see that in the way the team plays for each other. You look at some other clubs, Aston Villa for example and there's no team spirit getting them the results they need. The thing about Carroll, if that is true, then Carroll just nailed himself anally. Probably because the info about the release clause is already out there and/or contact from other clubs has already been made about the release clause?? If Pardew is correct by stating that for Ba it is not about the money, then he has chosen the correct approach by asking the fans to continually show the player how important he is to the club as well as reminding potential suitors about issues he alledgedly had with medicals. Basically the club will be helpless if any bid triggers the release clause and Ba will then decide whether to go or stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Important point about Tiote there I think, I often think that we take his work rate, attitude and commitment for granted just because he's always been like that. We'd miss his intensity in the middle if he left imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Talks a lot of sense there, and he's right if players are not 100% committed, that's where we've gone wrong in the past just paying millions for mercenaries. Like the comment about if they go we'll just get someone better, genuinely think behind the scenes things are moving forward massively. You get the impression that Pardew is managing Ashley as much as the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Important point about Tiote there I think, I often think that we take his work rate, attitude and commitment for granted just because he's always been like that. We'd miss his intensity in the middle if he left imo. Tiote is absolutely massive for us, not the player you take most note of during a game, but his work rate and "gameness" really helps us breaking up oppositions play. Interesting words from Pardew anyway, and he is so spot on regarding young players. I am sure they made a stand, and it will send a msg to other young players. We can release you, no matter how good you are, if you don`t work hard enough. It also shows the new youngsters we are getting in, that this is not a walk in the park, and we expect 100% commitment and work ethic in training, and professionalism outside the pitch. Our youth setup will be very interesting to follow the next couple of years, i think we are heading the right way. If we could produce a couple of good players who can compete for a place in out starting 11, i would be absolutely over the moon. Nothing like a product of our own academy making it at the top level. Makes me proud and really feel closer connected to the player. Howay! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToonZA Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Important point about Tiote there I think, I often think that we take his work rate, attitude and commitment for granted just because he's always been like that. We'd miss his intensity in the middle if he left imo. Tiote is absolutely massive for us, not the player you take most note of during a game, but his work rate and "gameness" really helps us breaking up oppositions play. Interesting words from Pardew anyway, and he is so spot on regarding young players. I am sure they made a stand, and it will send a msg to other young players. We can release you, no matter how good you are, if you don`t work hard enough. It also shows the new youngsters we are getting in, that this is not a walk in the park, and we expect 100% commitment and work ethic in training, and professionalism outside the pitch. Our youth setup will be very interesting to follow the next couple of years, i think we are heading the right way. If we could produce a couple of good players who can compete for a place in out starting 11, i would be absolutely over the moon. Nothing like a product of our own academy making it at the top level. Makes me proud and really feel closer connected to the player. Howay! Including the valid points you mentioned, getting a couple of players from the youth set up to blend into the first team makes us less reliant on using our current transfer policy to bring players into the club. Albeit we have been brilliant with our transfer policy there is always a huge risk. Obviously cheaper option as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Talks a lot of sense there, and he's right if players are not 100% committed, that's where we've gone wrong in the past just paying millions for mercenaries. Like the comment about if they go we'll just get someone better, genuinely think behind the scenes things are moving forward massively. You get the impression that Pardew is managing Ashley as much as the squad. One of the biggest reasons I've always backed Pardew is that he seems to have worked out a way to work with Ashley. Whether he's managing upwards or he's just being flexible when he needs to, he seems to have got it right. As long as Ashley's here, it's in our best interests to have a manager that can do that IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Important point about Tiote there I think, I often think that we take his work rate, attitude and commitment for granted just because he's always been like that. We'd miss his intensity in the middle if he left imo. Yep. Personally can't believe some people seem so nonchalant about him going. He'd be a massive loss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiftynotout Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Interesting listening to Talkshite, Alladyce on defending himself for calling W/ham fans delussional because they do not play the "West Ham Way". Loads of West Ham fans on hitting back and saying the last time they played the "West Ham Way" was under Pardew and seemed very happy with the way they played under him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 I was at the talk in last night, He came across as a very genuine bloke. Told a great story of his first game in charge (when we beat Liverpool 3-1) said it was a great game & after the game went up to the boardroom to see Ashley only to find him & Lambias mortal drunk!! When asked who is "the longest in the shower" between Cisse & Ba said he didn't know as they both wore trunks Said he was loving it up here & the best part of the job was the home games, The worst part of the job is the press.. Seems like a great bloke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 The worst part of the job is the press Yes, Lee, that means you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 I was at the talk in last night, He came across as a very genuine bloke. Told a great story of his first game in charge (when we beat Liverpool 3-1) said it was a great game & after the game went up to the boardroom to see Ashley only to find him & Lambias mortal drunk!! When asked who is "the longest in the shower" between Cisse & Ba said he didn't know as they both wore trunks Said he was loving it up here & the best part of the job was the home games, The worst part of the job is the press.. Seems like a great bloke Did he say out about our style of play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 I was at the talk in last night, He came across as a very genuine bloke. Told a great story of his first game in charge (when we beat Liverpool 3-1) said it was a great game & after the game went up to the boardroom to see Ashley only to find him & Lambias mortal drunk!! When asked who is "the longest in the shower" between Cisse & Ba said he didn't know as they both wore trunks Said he was loving it up here & the best part of the job was the home games, The worst part of the job is the press.. Seems like a great bloke Witty bastard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 When he was asked about the new formation he said something along the lines of he needs to fit those three players in & it seems to work well. Really sound's like we are going for a left back in the summer, Santon was brought in as a young defender who we hope to develop.. He thinks Ashley is now in it for the long run, & if there is a player he really wants he thought he could get him. When asked about players leaving in the summer, He pretty much said every player has a price & when he asked Ashley about summer sales Ashley just keeps saying " I'm a very difficult seller " I read that as he wont let anyone go unless the offer is huge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Cheers Mofo! Very appreciated! Sounds interesting to be on these talk ins! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Told a great story of his first game in charge (when we beat Liverpool 3-1) said it was a great game & after the game went up to the boardroom to see Ashley only to find him & Lambias mortal drunk!! ashley could have been a beloved owner man alas, too much water under the bridge methinks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Can't say I've agreed with Pardew on the pitch for a lot of this season, but off it he's different class. He's kept a great team spirit going, and when he's been under pressure he's mostly handled it very well. You only have to look at how Fat Allardyce is getting all defensive now the WH fans are getting vocal about his shit management to appreciate it isn't easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 When he was asked about the new formation he said something along the lines of he needs to fit those three players in & it seems to work well. Really sound's like we are going for a left back in the summer, Santon was brought in as a young defender who we hope to develop.. He thinks Ashley is now in it for the long run, & if there is a player he really wants he thought he could get him. When asked about players leaving in the summer, He pretty much said every player has a price & when he asked Ashley about summer sales Ashley just keeps saying " I'm a very difficult seller " I read that as he wont let anyone go unless the offer is huge. I've got issues with the way Ashley runs the transfer side of things, but this is definitely true. When you consider the money we've received for various players: £12m for Milner, £6m+Raylor for N'Zogbia, £4m for Nolan, £7m for Enrique (a player who wanted to leave) and obviously £35m for Carroll. Given is the only dodgy one, but then he manufactured the move too. I do have underlying fears that we'll lose certain players, but i'm confident that (if we do), it'll be for a fair whack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Buzzing about the centre-back stuff, btw. Fully believe it too, what with the swift nature of the Cabaye deal, and what appeared to be a pre-window agreement to sign Maiga (now there was a blessing in disguise...). Good shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Have to say our signing technique at the moment is top class. Players just materialise when the deal is done, no messing about. No idea how we're managing to be so professional when most other football dealings are a farce, but long may it continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Have to say our signing technique at the moment is top class. Players just materialise when the deal is done, no messing about. No idea how we're managing to be so professional when most other football dealings are a farce, but long may it continue. I wouldn't say it's top class, it's been balanced relatively evenly since we came back up. There's still far too much fannying about with things that should be just sorted. E.g, not signing another defender in the summer or January. The Cisse signing will hopefully prove to be the turning point; it's the first time i think we've actually bought a player to add to the first team. Not because someone has left or because we needed to fill the squad out, which you could apply to all of our summer signings. But because it'll add to what we've already got and make us better. That signing was the first proper sign of ambition in the transfer market since Ashley arrived, imo. I am looking forward to the summer. Providing no one leaves, i don't think there's a great deal of work that needs doing... If we signed two players (first choice CB, first choice LB), i'd be absolutely delighted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Have to say our signing technique at the moment is top class. Players just materialise when the deal is done, no messing about. No idea how we're managing to be so professional when most other football dealings are a farce, but long may it continue. Indeed, refreshing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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