Ketsbaia Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 He got tactics spot on again today. It took him ages to play Santon, but he gradually got him in and it took him a LONG time to trust Ben Arfa but he finally has. Lessons are being learnt, whilst nurturing a fantastic atmosphere around the squad. We feel unbeatable at the moment, I certainly think we'll get 7 points out of the next 3. It really has been a phenomenal season and Pardew has been a big factor in that. Get yourself a drink, Pards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Don't see how anyone has to eat humble pie on the comments made before WBA. He's playing the way a lot of us said we should be playing, less hit and hope, more football on the ground, Ben Arfa, Ba and Cisse all in the team. It's the people who said "he's doing the best he can because he doesn't have the players to play anything other than long ball" who were more wrong tbh. Exactly, there aren't many people saying "I told you so" about the fact HBA's finally been given a run and he/we are doing well, we're just happy it's happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Don't see how anyone has to eat humble pie on the comments made before WBA. He's playing the way a lot of us said we should be playing, less hit and hope, more football on the ground, Ben Arfa, Ba and Cisse all in the team. It's the people who said "he's doing the best he can because he doesn't have the players to play anything other than long ball" who were more wrong tbh. Exactly, there aren't many people saying "I told you so" about the fact HBA's finally been given a run and he/we are doing well, we're just happy it's happening. Yes, but a lot of HBAs form is down to APs handling of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Result papering over the cracks again. There's genuine problems on the park and I honestly don't think Pardew can solve them. He's winging it atm. Just throwing them on the park and hoping they produce something outstanding to get us a goal. There's no discernible pattern to our play, it's a mishmash of long looping balls in the general vicinity of a player (who clearly isn't a target man) or a cross from wide with only one black and white shirt to aim for. When was the last time you saw one of our CM run past a striker and get on the end of a pull-back? The back 4 look shot to bits. Williamson looks dreadful as does Simpson and the LB changes from half to half. Krul seems incapable kicking it accurately to keep possession and refuses to bowl it out to either FB to build attacks. The refusal to strengthen the defence in January is also looking a mistake. Fitness-wise we're looking like Devon Loch. The squad isn't big enough or good enough to rotate effectively and a few of them look like they're running on empty. 6th? f*** me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Don't see how anyone has to eat humble pie on the comments made before WBA. He's playing the way a lot of us said we should be playing, less hit and hope, more football on the ground, Ben Arfa, Ba and Cisse all in the team. It's the people who said "he's doing the best he can because he doesn't have the players to play anything other than long ball" who were more wrong tbh. Exactly, there aren't many people saying "I told you so" about the fact HBA's finally been given a run and he/we are doing well, we're just happy it's happening. Yes, but a lot of HBAs form is down to APs handling of him Speculation that borders on you being an actual lunatic if you're categorically sure on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Believe it or not sicko, you're not some sort of forum god who must be answered to. People said things that were true at the time. Things have changed. Shock horror. Get over it. Never said i was JH I backed AP the same way i have backed MA/DL in the last year or so I dont rate Danny Simpson, I think BA will be off and i think Tiote will be sold in the summer These are my opinions, and if i am wrong and someone wants to pick me up on this then so be it. I am quite happy to eat humble, and say i am wrong. Sometimes, however, people need picking up on opinions, not necessarily because i want to say told you so, but because a lot of people on this board look up to some of these more distinguished posters and think they are always right, therefore taking their opinions as gospel Im just saying it is ok to have an opinion that differs from the hierachy Fair point. I believed in you midds. And you dared to have an opinion that was the general consensus at that point, that despite the position, we weren't playing in the least bit convincing way. You're one of the elder statesmen, and you typed that tripe. I threw up in my mouth a little tbh the more I thought about it. An Admin ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Don't see how anyone has to eat humble pie on the comments made before WBA. He's playing the way a lot of us said we should be playing, less hit and hope, more football on the ground, Ben Arfa, Ba and Cisse all in the team. It's the people who said "he's doing the best he can because he doesn't have the players to play anything other than long ball" who were more wrong tbh. Exactly, there aren't many people saying "I told you so" about the fact HBA's finally been given a run and he/we are doing well, we're just happy it's happening. Yes, but a lot of HBAs form is down to APs handling of him Speculation that borders on you being an actual lunatic if you're categorically sure on it. I dont think it is speculation tbh Pardew has openly criticised HBA and his work rate at time over the past 6 months and it has got a reaction. Pardews recent snippets about about him understanding the system more now takes any speculation away imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 We're gonna piss all over Bobby's 5th place season in terms of points. He's a fucking hero. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Don't see how anyone has to eat humble pie on the comments made before WBA. He's playing the way a lot of us said we should be playing, less hit and hope, more football on the ground, Ben Arfa, Ba and Cisse all in the team. It's the people who said "he's doing the best he can because he doesn't have the players to play anything other than long ball" who were more wrong tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I'm sick of this "I told you so" shit tbh, it's getting on my tits and making this place a pain in the arse after a win when it really shouldn't be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Believe it or not sicko, you're not some sort of forum god who must be answered to. People said things that were true at the time. Things have changed. Shock horror. Get over it. Never said i was JH I backed AP the same way i have backed MA/DL in the last year or so I dont rate Danny Simpson, I think BA will be off and i think Tiote will be sold in the summer These are my opinions, and if i am wrong and someone wants to pick me up on this then so be it. I am quite happy to eat humble, and say i am wrong. Sometimes, however, people need picking up on opinions, not necessarily because i want to say told you so, but because a lot of people on this board look up to some of these more distinguished posters and think they are always right, therefore taking their opinions as gospel Im just saying it is ok to have an opinion that differs from the hierachy You're more than entitled to your opinion. I don't agree with it but that's not what's at discussion here. It's the "Look at what midds said - explain yourself! HTT, you too!" attitude that is my gripe. No one should 'have' to answer to anyone, especially not you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Oh and HTT, you must be feeling very sheepish tonight Are you big enough to say you were WRONG? How many times are you going to come out with this shite, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Don't see how anyone has to eat humble pie on the comments made before WBA. He's playing the way a lot of us said we should be playing, less hit and hope, more football on the ground, Ben Arfa, Ba and Cisse all in the team. It's the people who said "he's doing the best he can because he doesn't have the players to play anything other than long ball" who were more wrong tbh. Exactly, there aren't many people saying "I told you so" about the fact HBA's finally been given a run and he/we are doing well, we're just happy it's happening. Yes, but a lot of HBAs form is down to APs handling of him Speculation that borders on you being an actual lunatic if you're categorically sure on it. I dont think it is speculation tbh Pardew has openly criticised HBA and his work rate at time over the past 6 months and it has got a reaction. Pardews recent snippets about about him understanding the system more now takes any speculation away imo It doesn't man, you haven't got a clue what would have happened if he got more time on the pitch! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Don't see how anyone has to eat humble pie on the comments made before WBA. He's playing the way a lot of us said we should be playing, less hit and hope, more football on the ground, Ben Arfa, Ba and Cisse all in the team. It's the people who said "he's doing the best he can because he doesn't have the players to play anything other than long ball" who were more wrong tbh. Exactly, there aren't many people saying "I told you so" about the fact HBA's finally been given a run and he/we are doing well, we're just happy it's happening. Yes, but a lot of HBAs form is down to APs handling of him Speculation that borders on you being an actual lunatic if you're categorically sure on it. Works both ways imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I'm sick of this "I told you so" shit tbh, it's getting on my tits and making this place a pain in the arse after a win when it really shouldn't be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Believe it or not sicko, you're not some sort of forum god who must be answered to. People said things that were true at the time. Things have changed. Shock horror. Get over it. Never said i was JH I backed AP the same way i have backed MA/DL in the last year or so I dont rate Danny Simpson, I think BA will be off and i think Tiote will be sold in the summer These are my opinions, and if i am wrong and someone wants to pick me up on this then so be it. I am quite happy to eat humble, and say i am wrong. Sometimes, however, people need picking up on opinions, not necessarily because i want to say told you so, but because a lot of people on this board look up to some of these more distinguished posters and think they are always right, therefore taking their opinions as gospel Im just saying it is ok to have an opinion that differs from the hierachy Fair point. I believed in you midds. And you dared to have an opinion that was the general consensus at that point, that despite the position, we weren't playing in the least bit convincing way. You're one of the elder statesmen, and you typed that tripe. I threw up in my mouth a little tbh the more I thought about it. An Admin ffs. Why was it a general consesus though? HTT Midds JH and even Dave albeit to a lesser extent were rolling this 'consensus' out. I admire what they do and their passion for the cause, but their opinions like it or not carry more weight than the average poster. They are not always right though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 They don't carry more weight at all. Same bullshit argument as 'shouldn't be saying that because you're an admin' or whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Oh and HTT, you must be feeling very sheepish tonight Are you big enough to say you were WRONG? How many times are you going to come out with this s****, man. A few more times yet. I read his posts and tend to empathise with many of his musings, but he went after Pardew big time and needs to come out and say he may have jumped the gun! I'm sick of this "I told you so" s*** tbh, it's getting on my tits and making this place a pain in the arse after a win when it really shouldn't be. Thats an opinion, congratulations your getting the hang of it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Works both ways imo. The proof is that with games he plays well and so do we, nothing proves the opposite and that he wouldn't have done it sooner if he'd got games earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 They don't carry more weight at all. Same bullshit argument as 'shouldn't be saying that because you're an admin' or whatever. Damn right! You tell 'em, boss man! Anyways, got all blinded by 'Last poster: Dave'. What'd you say sicko? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Don't see how anyone has to eat humble pie on the comments made before WBA. He's playing the way a lot of us said we should be playing, less hit and hope, more football on the ground, Ben Arfa, Ba and Cisse all in the team. It's the people who said "he's doing the best he can because he doesn't have the players to play anything other than long ball" who were more wrong tbh. Exactly, there aren't many people saying "I told you so" about the fact HBA's finally been given a run and he/we are doing well, we're just happy it's happening. Yes, but a lot of HBAs form is down to APs handling of him Speculation that borders on you being an actual lunatic if you're categorically sure on it. Works both ways imo. Yes but some things are easier to believe, e.g. that it probably shouldn't have taken until March for Pardew to find a place in the team for Ben Arfa, especially when the alternatives were the likes of Obertan and Ryan Taylor. But I'm not running around going "ner ner ner ner I telt you Ben Arfa should have been in the side", which appears to be the difference here. I'm not buying that this was all part of some masterplan on Pardew's part though, the inconsistent and nonsensical way in which he's used the player all season on the whole (until recently) would suggest otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I'm sick of this "I told you so" s*** tbh, it's getting on my tits and making this place a pain in the arse after a win when it really shouldn't be. In the same way that all the naysaying made things unbearable after a defeat/ draw/ narrow win used to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Works both ways imo. The proof is that with games he plays well and so do we, nothing proves the opposite and that he wouldn't have done it sooner if he'd got games earlier. He imo, is working a lot harder than he used to and despite me thinking he was really fucking good before I think he is really fucking amazing now but there is no evidence that I can provide or ever could that Pardew's handling has changed that. It's a very easy argument to win on your side tbh because you can just point at the fact 'he is playing more games and doing well so it MUST be more games that have improved his performance!'. The same that none of us can conclusively prove any coaching helps any player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 They don't carry more weight at all. Same bullshit argument as 'shouldn't be saying that because you're an admin' or whatever. Damn right! You tell 'em, boss man! Anyways, got all blinded by 'Last poster: Dave'. What'd you say sicko? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Oh and HTT, you must be feeling very sheepish tonight Are you big enough to say you were WRONG? How many times are you going to come out with this s****, man. A few more times yet. I read his posts and tend to empathise with many of his musings, but he went after Pardew big time and needs to come out and say he may have jumped the gun! I'm sick of this "I told you so" s*** tbh, it's getting on my tits and making this place a pain in the arse after a win when it really shouldn't be. Thats an opinion, congratulations your getting the hang of it! You're. As in you're a complete cretin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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