Minhosa Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Typical Ashley buy. Pardew = Puppet. Always the logic behind his appointment, a yes man who'll pretend he's something other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Is he fast? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Is he fast? Above average. Especially for a big bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Lisa Snowdon has reportedly begun dating England footballer Jay Bothroyd. The pair, who have been going out for three months, met at an awards ceremony in London last year, according to The Mirror. A source said: "Neither of them was looking for romance - they just got on incredibly well and things developed from there. It's early days but she thinks he is a true gent. They're smitten." Cardiff City striker Bothroyd, who was handed his national team debut in November, split from his actress wife Stella Pozzi last summer. she's overrated imo, can't believe she went out with George Clooney for 5 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Lisa Snowdon has reportedly begun dating England footballer Jay Bothroyd. The pair, who have been going out for three months, met at an awards ceremony in London last year, according to The Mirror. A source said: "Neither of them was looking for romance - they just got on incredibly well and things developed from there. It's early days but she thinks he is a true gent. They're smitten." Cardiff City striker Bothroyd, who was handed his national team debut in November, split from his actress wife Stella Pozzi last summer. she's overrated imo, can't believe she went out with George Clooney for 5 years. http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/PsychoPsonic/Funny/WouldNotHitItStudMan69.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest michaelfoster Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Carroll is the only decent striker we have tbf, Boothroyd would be better than Xisco/Best/Ranger/Lovenkrands and possibly same level as Shola Lovenkrands - legs have gone Ameobi - always been rubbish Ranger - cant score in a brothel Xisco - scores but usually in gay bars Best - mediocre Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 If we send anyone the other way it should be a forward or Guthrie, Routledge still has his uses. Not fussed about losing Routledge tbh, he's been a let down mostly. The only issue would be whether Boothroyd is good enough to bother with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Carroll is the only decent striker we have tbf, Boothroyd would be better than Xisco/Best/Ranger/Lovenkrands and possibly same level as Shola Lovenkrands - legs have gone Ameobi - always been rubbish Ranger - cant score in a brothel Xisco - scores but usually in gay bars Best - mediocre And if he fails, another average striker on our books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 We need to get rid of so much rubbish, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 We need to get rid of so much rubbish, man. Agreed 100%, also would free up funds hopefully to strengthen other areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 We need to get rid of so much rubbish, man. Agreed 100%, also would free up funds hopefully to strengthen other areas. True but there's absolutely zero chance of that happening in this window. In all honesty I don't have any faith in Pardew to bring in improvements on what we have either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 It is important to send out Ranger out on loan if this deal go through..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 We're not guaranteed to stay up yet, and there is no player anyone can identify that will definitely keep us up, because that isn't possible. Bearing this in mind who the hell do people expect us to sign? This season is about consolidating prem position. The club was always going to go with safer options this January. At least the squad is being strengthened, and Bothroyd is definitely worth a punt all things considered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 We're not guaranteed to stay up yet, and there is no player anyone can identify that will definitely keep us up, because that isn't possible. Bearing this in mind who the hell do people expect us to sign? This season is about consolidating prem position. The club was always going to go with safer options this January. At least the squad is being strengthened, and Bothroyd is definitely worth a punt all things considered. We already have 4 very average strikers no point in buying a 5th one. Bothroyd has shown nothing to most people to show he can do it in this division, and he's just an average championship striker for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 We're not guaranteed to stay up yet, and there is no player anyone can identify that will definitely keep us up, because that isn't possible. Bearing this in mind who the hell do people expect us to sign? This season is about consolidating prem position. The club was always going to go with safer options this January. At least the squad is being strengthened, and Bothroyd is definitely worth a punt all things considered. We already have 4 very average strikers no point in buying a 5th one. Bothroyd has shown nothing to most people to show he can do it in this division, and he's just an average championship striker for me. Harsh, given he has 15 goals in 19 games this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 We need to get rid of so much rubbish, man. Agreed 100%, also would free up funds hopefully to strengthen other areas. True but there's absolutely zero chance of that happening in this window. In all honesty I don't have any faith in Pardew to bring in improvements on what we have either. Agree the players we have been linked with in this country are by and large no better than what we have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Obviously it's a risk buying Bothroyd. He might turn out to be able to cut it in the Premier League, or he might end up another Beckford. If he's any good at all then he's better than any striker we have bar Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Obviously it's a risk buying Bothroyd. He might turn out to be able to cut it in the Premier League, or he might end up another Beckford. If he's any good at all then he's better than any striker we have bar Carroll. He's knocking on 30 isn't he? Genuine question, how many lower league players, who've flirted with the premiership have actually done well at the top level? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 We're not guaranteed to stay up yet, and there is no player anyone can identify that will definitely keep us up, because that isn't possible. Bearing this in mind who the hell do people expect us to sign? This season is about consolidating prem position. The club was always going to go with safer options this January. At least the squad is being strengthened, and Bothroyd is definitely worth a punt all things considered. We already have 4 very average strikers no point in buying a 5th one. Bothroyd has shown nothing to most people to show he can do it in this division, and he's just an average championship striker for me. He is average huh? Based on what exactly? In fact forget that. I'll let you have that, even though it has no meaningful basis. Outside of Carroll our strikers are not average, they are terrible. Best is actually okay but far too unproven and inexperienced to rely on consistently if Carroll is out. Shola is awful and is never in decent enough shape to play more than a few games in a row without getting injured. Lovenkrands is a bit headless and Ranger is very very immature. Xisco is awol. No why would you compare Bothroyd to any of those guys exactly? You're just letting your mouth run without thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 We're not guaranteed to stay up yet, and there is no player anyone can identify that will definitely keep us up, because that isn't possible. Bearing this in mind who the hell do people expect us to sign? This season is about consolidating prem position. The club was always going to go with safer options this January. At least the squad is being strengthened, and Bothroyd is definitely worth a punt all things considered. We already have 4 very average strikers no point in buying a 5th one. Bothroyd has shown nothing to most people to show he can do it in this division, and he's just an average championship striker for me. He is average huh? Based on what exactly? In fact forget that. I'll let you have that, even though it has no meaningful basis. Outside of Carroll our strikers are not average, they are terrible. Best is actually okay but far too unproven and inexperienced to rely on consistently if Carroll is out. Shola is awful and is never in decent enough shape to play more than a few games in a row without getting injured. Lovenkrands is a bit headless and Ranger is very very immature. Xisco is awol. No why would you compare Bothroyd to any of those guys exactly? You're just letting your mouth run without thinking. If he's better than average why hasn't any decent team in the premiership looked at him. Reports from Cardiff fans and Coventry fans alike tell a picture. He's a championship player and that is what his level is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 He's better than Best, but I don't think he's the level we should be aiming at. Ba would have been a good signing for us at £6m, but clearly that's not the kind of money we're allowed to spend anymore on top of Ben Arfa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 If we sign him, chances are we'd need another striker in the summer for next season anyway. Surely, we'd be much better going for a loan option on a striker of quality similar to Bothroyds rather than permanently signing Bothroyd himself, as we'd be spending money on someone to do a job (and they aren't proven to be able to do it) for half a season. Doesn't make sense really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 We're not guaranteed to stay up yet, and there is no player anyone can identify that will definitely keep us up, because that isn't possible. Bearing this in mind who the hell do people expect us to sign? This season is about consolidating prem position. The club was always going to go with safer options this January. At least the squad is being strengthened, and Bothroyd is definitely worth a punt all things considered. We already have 4 very average strikers no point in buying a 5th one. Bothroyd has shown nothing to most people to show he can do it in this division, and he's just an average championship striker for me. He is average huh? Based on what exactly? In fact forget that. I'll let you have that, even though it has no meaningful basis. Outside of Carroll our strikers are not average, they are terrible. Best is actually okay but far too unproven and inexperienced to rely on consistently if Carroll is out. Shola is awful and is never in decent enough shape to play more than a few games in a row without getting injured. Lovenkrands is a bit headless and Ranger is very very immature. Xisco is awol. No why would you compare Bothroyd to any of those guys exactly? You're just letting your mouth run without thinking. because he's seen Bothroyd play and knows what he has done in his career so far? he's 29 in a few months so it's not like he's going to improve in a few years, in fact he's probably already peaked and will gradually decline over the length of his contract if we sign him. His record is not that much better than Leon Best's and certainly not as impressive as Shola's track record. we already have 3 strikers of Bothroyd's calibre in Best, Loven and Shola, with a raw player of potential in Ranger. that is 4 mediocre back-up strikers - we don't need any more. squad depth isn't the issue up-front, quality is, and it is difficult to argue that Bothroyd represents a significant jump in quality over these guys cos his record says otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 We're not guaranteed to stay up yet, and there is no player anyone can identify that will definitely keep us up, because that isn't possible. Bearing this in mind who the hell do people expect us to sign? This season is about consolidating prem position. The club was always going to go with safer options this January. At least the squad is being strengthened, and Bothroyd is definitely worth a punt all things considered. We already have 4 very average strikers no point in buying a 5th one. Bothroyd has shown nothing to most people to show he can do it in this division, and he's just an average championship striker for me. He is average huh? Based on what exactly? In fact forget that. I'll let you have that, even though it has no meaningful basis. Outside of Carroll our strikers are not average, they are terrible. Best is actually okay but far too unproven and inexperienced to rely on consistently if Carroll is out. Shola is awful and is never in decent enough shape to play more than a few games in a row without getting injured. Lovenkrands is a bit headless and Ranger is very very immature. Xisco is awol. No why would you compare Bothroyd to any of those guys exactly? You're just letting your mouth run without thinking. If he's better than average why hasn't any decent team in the premiership looked at him. Reports from Cardiff fans and Coventry fans alike tell a picture. He's a championship player and that is what his level is. Are Newcastle looking at him? Are they not a prem club? How do you know no one else has? Answer me this Einstein. Is Charlie Adam a prem player? Is DJ Campbell a prem player? Is Chris Brunt a prem player? Is Andy Carroll a prem player? Why didn't anyone snap any of these guys up before this season. Reports from Newcastle fans this time last year would have told you Carroll wasn't good enough for even the Championship. Read them for yourself on this very forum. If the scouts have identified Bothroyd as someone who they think can come in and improve the strikeforce, which really shouldn't be that difficult, as it is quite poor, then it is what it is. Your opinion has no real basis, other than that he is a championship player. It isn't based on anything you know about any of his attributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 We're not guaranteed to stay up yet, and there is no player anyone can identify that will definitely keep us up, because that isn't possible. Bearing this in mind who the hell do people expect us to sign? This season is about consolidating prem position. The club was always going to go with safer options this January. At least the squad is being strengthened, and Bothroyd is definitely worth a punt all things considered. We already have 4 very average strikers no point in buying a 5th one. Bothroyd has shown nothing to most people to show he can do it in this division, and he's just an average championship striker for me. He is average huh? Based on what exactly? In fact forget that. I'll let you have that, even though it has no meaningful basis. Outside of Carroll our strikers are not average, they are terrible. Best is actually okay but far too unproven and inexperienced to rely on consistently if Carroll is out. Shola is awful and is never in decent enough shape to play more than a few games in a row without getting injured. Lovenkrands is a bit headless and Ranger is very very immature. Xisco is awol. No why would you compare Bothroyd to any of those guys exactly? You're just letting your mouth run without thinking. If he's better than average why hasn't any decent team in the premiership looked at him. Reports from Cardiff fans and Coventry fans alike tell a picture. He's a championship player and that is what his level is. Are Newcastle looking at him? Are they not a prem club? How do you know no one else has? Answer me this Einstein. Is Charlie Adam a prem player? Is DJ Campbell a prem player? Is Chris Brunt a prem player? Is Andy Carroll a prem player? Why didn't anyone snap any of these guys up before this season. Reports from Newcastle fans this time last year would have told you Carroll wasn't good enough for even the Championship. Read them for yourself on this very forum. If the scouts have identified Bothroyd as someone who they think can come in and improve the strikeforce, which really shouldn't be that difficult, as it is quite poor, then it is what it is. Your opinion has no real basis, other than that he is a championship player. It isn't based on anything you know about any of his attributes. He's played at championship level for over 5 years now and he's nearly 30, fine if you want NUFC to sign cheap championship players like that it'll only end-up in relegation eventually. His goal record is pretty average for the championship, I could easily name another 5 championship strikers clearly as good as Bothroyd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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