sempuki Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Can't believe he offered to resign and they turned him down. "No John - we want you to relegate us"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 It all stems from the same place that sees England/Britain fail to produce technical players ahead of 'graft' and 'passion', there's just a lousy attitude to the game in general imo. Despite the game's popularity, the public in England, by and large, HATE footballers, really hate them. They don't really want to hear about tactics and footballers being told what to do ("the bloody money they're on, they shouldn't need telling!"). They'd rather hear about how hard the lads are working. Coaching is a bit of a dirty word here, a ridiculous idea that footballers need telling how to kick a bloody ball round a field, the lazy overpaid b******s. Carver's assertions the other day that he can't affect what happens on the field aren't far from the level of discourse generally. As a country, we fail to produce sufficient players, managers or fans who are really intelligent about the game. I avoid football chat altogether outside of a couple of mates who I can trust not to talk absolute drivel. That's so spot on in every way. The general attitude to Football is that it's such a simple game that anyone could do it if they were just a good enough athlete. People don't understand the skills, the tactics from good managers and everything else that goes into actually winning at the highest level. It's all lost on the average person on the street. You have to be really into football it seems, to even care to study what actually goes into it. That's why most people just turn up to our ground every match and don't understand the need for protest. It's just a casual distraction for them and they're not interested in the inner workings. Yet for all that, they'll still value their opinion above that of an obsessed Football fan that's actually taken the time to try and understand everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Great posts Gino14, Kasper and Wullie. My view is that football in Britain is anti-intellectual (generally, of course there are exceptions). Reminds of this in "Mike Bassett - manager", at 0:22. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Well even Norwegian media is going on about how shit Carver is and that protests are still ongoing. Well at least more media outside the Uk is actually picking shit up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Wonder if Carver thinks he's got more chance of getting the job if we're in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 This whole debacle would be a little easier to stomach if he'd just have a fucking go at the opposition. If we started the next game with a front 3 of Cabella, De Jong & Perez with Ryan Taylor nowhere near the starting line up and we still lose, fair enough. But starting games with Jonas & R Taylor and our creative players consigned to the bench is suicide. It hasn't worked and it never will. Change something you fat cretin! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 IMO you can go a long way with srong fundamentals in any sport, especially football. We can't take kick-offs, can't defend set-pieces, lose concentration in defence all the time. Just awful. You can get a very long way with motivation, belief, confidence and solid organisation. We don't have that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Ryder has tweeted saying Carver didn't offer to resign and the club didn't ask him to. Probably more covering up from the club to make everything seem hunky dory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 This whole debacle would be a little easier to stomach if he'd just have a f***ing go at the opposition. If we started the next game with a front 3 of Cabella, De Jong & Perez with Ryan Taylor nowhere near the starting line up and we still lose, fair enough. But starting games with Jonas & R Taylor and our creative players consigned to the bench is suicide. It hasn't worked and it never will. Change something you fat cretin! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 It's incredible that a manager can lose every game, slag off his players in public, openly state that they aren't listening to him and just carry on in the job. Or it would be if we were a normal club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/05/0f4b4e096938c66ca158ba88b83c4183.jpg From the man himself jesus christ almighty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Jesus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 probably thinks his team-talk is revolutionary by it being entirely "just go out and win!". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 This whole debacle would be a little easier to stomach if he'd just have a f***ing go at the opposition. If we started the next game with a front 3 of Cabella, De Jong & Perez with Ryan Taylor nowhere near the starting line up and we still lose, fair enough. But starting games with Jonas & R Taylor and our creative players consigned to the bench is suicide. It hasn't worked and it never will. Change something you fat cretin! It just highlights how important intelligence is in a football manager and not genius level intelligence, just an IQ above 50. Identify that something isn't working and change it to try and improve things - not exactly A-level Maths is it? A fucking baked potato could see that we can't defend for shit, that hoofing the ball to small players is retarded and that Ryan Taylor has been totally counter-productive for 2 months. So instead of actually 'managing', Pauline Quirk persists with a defensive set-up that plays hoof ball and sees set pieces as our best chance of scoring. He leaves pace, creativity and goal threat on the bench and then seems incredulous when we lose for an eighth consecutive game. You are the problem John, YOU!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Anita and Abeid and Cabella on the bench was genuinely unbelievable. Jonas and Taylor in midfield FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 We have a manager who doesn't think managers can affect how well a team performs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/05/0f4b4e096938c66ca158ba88b83c4183.jpg From the man himself Scary stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 All we can hope is that this weekend has convinced him to play Cabella, Abeid etc against West Brom. Even he knows that something needs to be changed. That, plus the returns of Sissoko, De Jong, Cisse and Aarons could be enough. As long as WBA have no set pieces! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 We have a manager who doesn't think managers can affect how well a team performs. This is what four years of working under Pardew will do to you. Must spend 90 minutes thinking of what excuse to use next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 The enforced absence of Williamson might also prove to be a blessing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 This Jonas/Ralor in central midfield is the craziest thing i've ever seen. Just play as many players in their natural positions as possible please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/05/0f4b4e096938c66ca158ba88b83c4183.jpg From the man himself Scary stuff. So a well thought out and intelligent tactical plan executed by a team of highly motivated and drilled players has f*** all to do with winning games and success Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie1892 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/05/0f4b4e096938c66ca158ba88b83c4183.jpg From the man himself Scary stuff. So a well thought out and intelligent tactical plan executed by a team of highly motivated and drilled players has f*** all to do with winning games and success Of course not. Don't be so naive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 All we can hope is that this weekend has convinced him to play Cabella, Abeid etc against West Brom. Even he knows that something needs to be changed. That, plus the returns of Sissoko, De Jong, Cisse and Aarons could be enough. As long as WBA have no set pieces! I thought Cisse was out for the season now? Dodgy leg? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 What does he think Robson was doing all those years while he was putting the cones out? He's absolutely demented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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