Andy Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Really? I thought Portsmouth were only stopped from playing in Europe because of their financial issues. Rules have changed this year iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Really? I thought Portsmouth were only stopped from playing in Europe because of their financial issues. They were appealing in case they won it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukeboxromeo Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Hmm, according to Wikipedia (yeah, I know): If the winners have qualified for the Champions League, then the runners-up qualify for the Europa League. If the runners-up have already qualified for the Champions League or the Europa League, the highest placed team in the Premier League standings who have yet to qualify for the Champions League or Europa League would qualify for the Europa League. Can't find anything on the FA's website to counter this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 I'm sure someone (may have been Nut) posted some FA documentation or other earlier in the season, and that basically said the opposite to that wiki article. I could be completely wrong mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 You don't qualify as runner up in FM 11. I doubt they'd include a massive error like that tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 You don't qualify as runner up in FM 11. I doubt they'd include a massive error like that tbh. That settles it then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 You don't qualify as runner up in FM 11. I doubt they'd include a massive error like that tbh. That settles it then. Can't find out in the rules of the cup on the FA site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/accesslist/index.html Uncertain at how to read it, but it's the closest I've found to some sort of rules on admission. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukeboxromeo Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Found this on UEFA's website: If the winner of the domestic cup qualifies for the UEFA Champions League, the domestic cup runner-up qualifies for the UEFA Europa League at the stage initially reserved for the lowest ranking top domestic league 2 representative (or the winner of another official domestic competition in accordance with paragraph 2.03). Should both the winner and the runner-up of the domestic cup qualify for the UEFA Champions League, the association concerned may enter for the UEFA Europa League the club which finishes the top domestic league immediately below the other club or clubs which qualify for the UEFA Europa League. In both cases, the access stage initially reserved for the domestic cup winner is reserved for the club which finishes the domestic league in the highest position out of all the clubs which qualify for the UEFA Europa League from the association concerned (see Annex Ia). Each representative of the domestic league will then enter the competition at the stage initially reserved for the domestic league representative ranked immediately above it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Found this on UEFA's website: If the winner of the domestic cup qualifies for the UEFA Champions League, the domestic cup runner-up qualifies for the UEFA Europa League at the stage initially reserved for the lowest ranking top domestic league 2 representative (or the winner of another official domestic competition in accordance with paragraph 2.03). Should both the winner and the runner-up of the domestic cup qualify for the UEFA Champions League, the association concerned may enter for the UEFA Europa League the club which finishes the top domestic league immediately below the other club or clubs which qualify for the UEFA Europa League. In both cases, the access stage initially reserved for the domestic cup winner is reserved for the club which finishes the domestic league in the highest position out of all the clubs which qualify for the UEFA Europa League from the association concerned (see Annex Ia). Each representative of the domestic league will then enter the competition at the stage initially reserved for the domestic league representative ranked immediately above it. To be fair, that sounds like you've got it right... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukeboxromeo Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 That was for this season though, knowing UEFA/The FA they've changed it for next season. Very confusing indeed, would be nice to have clarification from the FA on this matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Aye they'll change it if Chelsea win the ECL and they finish 5th. Tell you what mind when i think back it's a disgrace Liverpool were allowed in the Champions League when they finished 5th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 England have two domestic cups though? Or is that part for England and not Europe entirely? We only have one domestic cup in Norway, and the runner up there have stopped getting a spot in the EL if the winner already have a spot IIRC whereas it used to get one before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Aye they'll change it if Chelsea win the ECL and they finish 5th. Tell you what mind when i think back it's a disgrace Liverpool were allowed in the Champions League when they finished 5th I didn't think about it as that controversial at the time, partly cos I still 'backed the English clubs in Europe'. However, looking back it was a fucking disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 From asking about, the general consensus seems to be that League Cup runners up don't qualify for Europe, if they haven't already, but FA Cup runners up do. So if that is correct, we're dependent on there being two top five teams or Birmingham in the FA Cup final for the 6th place spot to be opened up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 What happens if Brum get relegated? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Still entitled to play in Europe unless they go into administration, at a guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 What happens if Brum get relegated? They play in the Championship next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 What happens if Brum get relegated? They drop to the next division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 They'll be playing Championship and Europa League football next year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Millwall got a go at Europe when they got to the FA Cup final didn't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 7 seconds between you all. Bet you feel stupid, Ash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Millwall got a go at Europe when they got to the FA Cup final didn't they? Aye went on the rampage against Ferencvaros. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Millwall got a go at Europe when they got to the FA Cup final didn't they? I seem to remember Ipswich playing Inter too. 3-0/4-0 iirc, Vieri scored? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Yeah Ipswich got in through the Fair Play League, didn't they? You can play in Europe even if you're in the Championship. Although, as long as you register yourself to do so? As that was Pompey's issue last season, was it not? I assume Brum aren't that stupid, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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