AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Wouldn't call Nasri a winger tbh. Or Ben Arfa really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Nasri is nowt like Ginola. Agreed. The last player I can think of that had some passing similarities to Ginola was probably Pires. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I'm too young to remember much of Ginola's glory days at NUFC, PSG, etc, but Nasri seems a better player, imo. I've watched Nasri from his teenage years though, so I might be biased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delima Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 How can you know nasri is better than ginola without knowing ginola ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 There's no one like Ginola out there in our league. No one would really get away with being the type of player he was. When Jonas first came here he played a lot like Ginola with class first touches, and really direct, purposeful runs, but once Keegan went all that's been left in Jonas is the ability to take people on. Ginola had that, but his crossing with both his left and his right was beautiful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 How can you know nasri is better than ginola without knowing ginola ? I know Ginola, but not as well as I know little Nasri. It is a familiarity issue. Old videos and memories from early youth are no substitute for the experience of watching this young man develop into a top player, leave for the British Isles, and become one of the world's best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 As someone who's seen all of them for Newcastle, Ginola was streets ahead of the others. On his day, he was absolutely out of this world. Only genuinely 2-footed player I've seen, used to take corners with his left and right feet. Pretty impressive when you're still a club's best corner taker with your weaker foot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 How can you know nasri is better than ginola without knowing ginola ? I know Ginola, but not as well as I know little Nasri. It is a familiarity issue. Old videos and memories from early youth are no substitute for the experience of watching this young man develop into a top player, leave for the British Isles, and become one of the world's best. Having seen both, Ginola was better. He played at the top level with us for a season, and then was incredible at Spurs. He won PFA player of the year in the year that Man United won the treble, so he was a bit better than Nasri has been...so far. I wouldn't put it past Nasri to surpass him, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spizz energi Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Ginola, streets ahead of the rest. N'Zogbia isn't even the best French whinger let alone winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Streets ahead my left nut. Robert is criminally underrated by a certain breed of NUFC fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Streets ahead my left nut. Robert is criminally underrated by a certain breed of NUFC fans. The problem with Robert was his stability. On his day he alone could win the game for us. But when he had a day off, nobody was worse either. All around I prefer players that delivers more consistently.. Ginola was absolutely fantastic, and I will never forgive Daglish for selling him. But Ben Arfa has something magical. His touch is just so fantastic, ditto his acceleration. Unlike Bale who has problems when the defense is organized, HBA has no problems taking on one or two players. It's when he goes after the third and the fourth that he runs into problems. From what I've seen on youtube his fondness for the ball is his main problem. If he learns when he should pass and when to dribble I honestly believe that he got the potential of Messi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 If he learns when he should pass and when to dribble I honestly believe that he got the potential of Messi. I'll have a pint of what you're drinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Unless it's piss you bottler. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 If he learns when he should pass and when to dribble I honestly believe that he got the potential of Messi. I'll have a pint of what you're drinking. He he. But seriously, HBA can be that good. His feinting is very similar to Zidane: He's able to to correct his movements if he sees that the opponent is not falling for the trick he's performing. In other words: He watches the opponent while simultaneously feinting and goes in the opposite direction if the defender is not falling for his faint. Very few players are able to do this. That's why HBA can pass a player using only one or two touches (like Zidane). That's why he can stand completely still, and still mange to surpass his player. He does the opposite of what the opponent RESPONDS to all the time. Ronaldo (that c***) on the other hand is not able to do this. That's why he uses a ton of feints without being able to pass his opponent. He looks too much on the ball: A very good example of this was Real Madrid's away game in this years CL against a French team, where they were very lucky to vin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fried Chicken Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Unless it's piss you bottler. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Punk, I am confused as to how the game between Olympique Lyonnais and Real Madrid last year has anything to do with Ben Arfa or feints. I just don't understand the reasoning behind what you are saying with that. edit: Or this year's against Auxerre? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Punk, I am confused as to how the game between Olympique Lyonnais and Real Madrid last year has anything to do with Ben Arfa or feints. I just don't understand the reasoning behind what you are saying with that. He said this years CL, they played Auxerre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Punk, I am confused as to how the game between Olympique Lyonnais and Real Madrid last year has anything to do with Ben Arfa or feints. I just don't understand the reasoning behind what you are saying with that. He said this years CL, they played Auxerre. Thank you. And I mentioned that match to prove that even Ronaldo is not able to feint in the way HBA does and Zidane did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 HBA is Zidane/Messi hybrid. Cannot wait for his return then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Ben Arfa is a very good player, but to say he could be as good as arguably the greatest player that's ever played the game is going a bit far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I can never decide between the two of Robert and Ginola. Ginola had that mystique and extra class about him. It's a shame the way it ended and fizzled out for him with Kenny in charge. Clearly the two weren't fond of each other at all! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 HBA is Zidane/Messi hybrid. Cannot wait for his return then Exactly Ben Arfa is a very good player, but to say he could be as good as arguably the greatest player that's ever played the game is going a bit far. Stop being a party pooper. We're trying to build some expectations here.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Ben Arfa is a very good player, but to say he could be as good as arguably the greatest player that's ever played the game is going a bit far. Nobody compared him to Shola though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Waddle at Marseille was better than all of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Ginola was better than Robert, I'd say it goes Ginola, Robert, Zog then Ben Arfa who could easily be the best in 2 or 3 years time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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