U2 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Carr isn't some super talent spotter, just a guy with good contacts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 The main problem is that Pardew didn't just stunt the players, he forced them out as well. Santon, Mbiwa and Ben Arfa should be key parts of McClaren's new squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 The main problem is that Pardew didn't just stunt the players, he forced them out as well. Santon, Mbiwa and Ben Arfa should be key parts of McClaren's new squad. Bit too lazy and loses the ball too much. Already cost his current team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I think he will be under some pressure, especially if he had a big say in the McClaren appointment. But that's the case with most scouts, if they keep recommending shit players they will likely get sacked. There again all these summer signings might turn out to be pretty decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I think we mostly sign decent players just not for the positions that are a priority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Surely under pressure at the club now, most of his bigger money signings have failed miserably and so there is massive pressure on this summers signings,particularly Thauvin. Plus he was supposedly really influential in the McClaren appointment. The profit on the Cabaye, Debuchy deals has paid for the vast majority of the 'flops' though so it's a fairly moot point. We'll also make a killing on Sissoko if/when he leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I think we mostly sign decent players just not for the positions that are a priority. So far we've signed a much needed striker, a much needed defender and it looks like we're signing a much needed winger. The only signing we "didn't need" is Wijnaldum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 We need Wijnaldum! But not if we're going to play him where McClaren plays him. In fact, i still think we need another CM to play with Gini (not priority) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Cabella looks to be an expensive flop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Sticking your neck out there like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Some people are foolish to believe tha we paid anywhere near £12m for him. More like £7-8m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I'm cool with Carr's work, especially when I glance around and see what other teams typically do in the window. Swansea do a hell of a job, but really everyone else is very inconsistent and typically have far more busts than we do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I'm cool with Carr's work, especially when I glance around and see what other teams typically do in the window. Swansea do a hell of a job, but really everyone else is very inconsistent and typically have far more busts than we do. What are Swansea's wages like in comparison to turnover and all that shite? They get some good players in but I'd imagine they're paying them a fair wedge in lieu of fees. Not saying there's anything wrong with their approach but if they are paying well they'll have to be very careful with it like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I'm cool with Carr's work, especially when I glance around and see what other teams typically do in the window. We have quite clearly copied his modus operandi this summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Even Swansea has had a lot more fuck ups than the media will have you believe. Everyone does, it's practically impossible not to tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 It's probably not his fault but we've failed to strengthen our spine in recent years. Swansea replaced theirs well. Southampton too (last season at least). Tottenham wasted lots of money but essentially brought through a new spine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I still believe we aren't signing all of his "top" targets as we either a) don't want to pay it and/or b) have had Pardew/Carver damage our reputation and c) have no european football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 So this is the thing for me ... McClaren has come in and managed to convince the hiercarchy or whatever to buy higher calibre players and it's happening. I blame Pardew for so many things man. The guy was just an idiot. He was too busy arguing irrelevant points like more locals, more passion, more better DNA, more English that he the whole thing didn't work man. He didn't know enough about players in other markets to argue convincingly to go for more high profile players that he really believed in. He would have been trying to cover his backside and not wanted any culpability unless he was getting his Darren Bents, James Tomkins and Steve Sidwells. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I still believe we aren't signing all of his "top" targets as we either a) don't want to pay it and/or b) have had Pardew/Carver damage our reputation and c) have no european football It's primarily A. Speaking of the spine. We haven't bought enough players for those positions but the ones we have in recent years: MYM Mbemba Colback Anita Riviere For various reasons they aren't good enough or haven't excelled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Not counting Mbemba as a flop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 In actuality I think Pardew was happy to have Carr buy a bunch of foreginers he could claim he knew nothing about. Why? Because as soon as things went pear shaped he could just blame them all for their DNA, or for not caring, or for not understanding the area. Man it was a bunch of nonsense. The guy was a class A conman. Sad times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I'm cool with Carr's work, especially when I glance around and see what other teams typically do in the window. Swansea do a hell of a job, but really everyone else is very inconsistent and typically have far more busts than we do. What are Swansea's wages like in comparison to turnover and all that shite? They get some good players in but I'd imagine they're paying them a fair wedge in lieu of fees. Not saying there's anything wrong with their approach but if they are paying well they'll have to be very careful with it like. In 2014 it was £63m (64% of turnover) but considering the likes of Ayew and Gomis I'd expect that to have increases significantly. Also pretty sure some of the signing on fee's they're paying are pretty large as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 In actuality I think Pardew was happy to have Carr buy a bunch of foreginers he could claim he knew nothing about. Why? Because as soon as things went pear shaped he could just blame them all for their DNA I'm not sure he did this but I do think we haven't bought the right type of player often enough. The DNA lark is funny but a number of the players don't have the right style or nous to work in the PL. Or at least in the style of Pardew. We have a small and weak side. How has that happened? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Weren't we win for Ayew, Lacazette and Gomis? All didn't pan out basically b/c we didnt want to pay their salary and or transfer fee? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Weren't we win for Ayew, Lacazette and Gomis? All didn't pan out basically b/c we didnt want to pay their salary and or transfer fee? Aye, this is true. At least Gomis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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