Football's greatest - where does Lionel Messi rank?

[Mikky]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32455354

 

Alex Ferguson giving a good little insight into his view on Messi vs Ronaldo, paraphrashing a bit -

 

"Ronaldo can go play for QPR, Millwall and score a hat trick because he's got two feet, strong in the air and very brave. I don't think Messi could do the same. Messi is a Barcelona player".

 

Interesting view from probably the best manager of all time, if you have an entire team built around Messi's strengths, then Messi can probably look better than Ronaldo. But Ferguson reckons Ronaldo can raise the level of the team on his own. From this mentality alone, Ferguson is comparing Ronaldo more with Maradona than Messi in his ability to carry a team alone.

 

Not biased at all from Sir Alex.

 

Still smarting from when Messi raped his team in 2 CL finals

[Flip]

Aye he was always going to side with Ronaldo. Messi would take the p*ss in the Premier League regardless of what club he was at.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32455354

 

Alex Ferguson giving a good little insight into his view on Messi vs Ronaldo, paraphrashing a bit -

 

"Ronaldo can go play for QPR, Millwall and score a hat trick because he's got two feet, strong in the air and very brave. I don't think Messi could do the same. Messi is a Barcelona player".

 

Interesting view from probably the best manager of all time, if you have an entire team built around Messi's strengths, then Messi can probably look better than Ronaldo. But Ferguson reckons Ronaldo can raise the level of the team on his own. From this mentality alone, Ferguson is comparing Ronaldo more with Maradona than Messi in his ability to carry a team alone.

 

Not biased at all from Sir Alex.

 

Still smarting from when Messi raped his team in 2 CL finals

 

:thup:

[Ronaldo]

Surprised SAF has so much loyalty to CRon, mind. He was saying Ancelotti was the best manager he'd ever worked with about 3 weeks after Real appointed him.

[Scotty66]

Just dug out his junior records.

 

Newell's:

 

Año Partidos Goles Promedio

1994 29 40 1.38

1995 30 36 1.2

1996 27 36 1.33

1997 36 40 1.11

1998 25 27 1.08

1999 29 55 1.9

Total 176 234 1.33

 

Barça:

 

Infantil B 1 1 1

Infantil A 14 21 1.5

Cadete A 30 37 1.23

Barcelona C 10 5 0.5

Barcelona B 22 6 0.27

Total 77 70 0.91

 

He was employed as a classic winger at Barça B and C.

 

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Perfect gif for that record. Reading through that for the first time after supporting Newcastle all my life I nearly had a heart attack.

[Scotty66]

Village Idiot might know the real answer to this but it is true Glasgow Rangers actually tried to sign Messi on loan after Alex Mcleish's son found Messi on Football Manager (or Championship Manager as it was known then)

 

Would have been interesting to see how Messi coped against players who also eat babies 

[Village Idiot]

I don't know about the CM scouting bit, but it's true that Rangers sought to loan Messi when he was still a Barça B player. We had a bit of a relationship with them at the time, having sold Arteta to them.

[Scotty66]

His stats were insane for a 15/16 year old (perhaps younger?). Apparently Alex's son kept banging on about it and that led to Rangers making the enquiry. They were politely but quickly told "no chance" 

[Mole_Toonfan]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32455354

 

Alex Ferguson giving a good little insight into his view on Messi vs Ronaldo, paraphrashing a bit -

 

"Ronaldo can go play for QPR, Millwall and score a hat trick because he's got two feet, strong in the air and very brave. I don't think Messi could do the same. Messi is a Barcelona player".

 

Interesting view from probably the best manager of all time, if you have an entire team built around Messi's strengths, then Messi can probably look better than Ronaldo. But Ferguson reckons Ronaldo can raise the level of the team on his own. From this mentality alone, Ferguson is comparing Ronaldo more with Maradona than Messi in his ability to carry a team alone.

 

How anyone who has seen Messi over the years can come to this conclusion is beyond me.

[Ash]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32455354

 

Alex Ferguson giving a good little insight into his view on Messi vs Ronaldo, paraphrashing a bit -

 

"Ronaldo can go play for QPR, Millwall and score a hat trick because he's got two feet, strong in the air and very brave. I don't think Messi could do the same. Messi is a Barcelona player".

 

Interesting view from probably the best manager of all time, if you have an entire team built around Messi's strengths, then Messi can probably look better than Ronaldo. But Ferguson reckons Ronaldo can raise the level of the team on his own. From this mentality alone, Ferguson is comparing Ronaldo more with Maradona than Messi in his ability to carry a team alone.

 

How anyone who has seen Messi over the years can come to this conclusion is beyond me.

 

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[Froggy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32455354

 

Alex Ferguson giving a good little insight into his view on Messi vs Ronaldo, paraphrashing a bit -

 

"Ronaldo can go play for QPR, Millwall and score a hat trick because he's got two feet, strong in the air and very brave. I don't think Messi could do the same. Messi is a Barcelona player".

 

Interesting view from probably the best manager of all time, if you have an entire team built around Messi's strengths, then Messi can probably look better than Ronaldo. But Ferguson reckons Ronaldo can raise the level of the team on his own. From this mentality alone, Ferguson is comparing Ronaldo more with Maradona than Messi in his ability to carry a team alone.

 

How anyone who has seen Messi over the years can come to this conclusion is beyond me.

 

http://media.top5ofanything.com/uploads/2015/02/American-Whiskey.jpg

 

http://www.haydensport.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/FE.png

[samag]

Aye he was always going to side with Ronaldo. Messi would take the p*ss in the Premier League regardless of what club he was at.

 

this

[triggs]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32455354

 

Alex Ferguson giving a good little insight into his view on Messi vs Ronaldo, paraphrashing a bit -

 

"Ronaldo can go play for QPR, Millwall and score a hat trick because he's got two feet, strong in the air and very brave. I don't think Messi could do the same. Messi is a Barcelona player".

 

Interesting view from probably the best manager of all time, if you have an entire team built around Messi's strengths, then Messi can probably look better than Ronaldo. But Ferguson reckons Ronaldo can raise the level of the team on his own. From this mentality alone, Ferguson is comparing Ronaldo more with Maradona than Messi in his ability to carry a team alone.

 

How anyone who has seen Messi over the years can come to this conclusion is beyond me.

 

http://media.top5ofanything.com/uploads/2015/02/American-Whiskey.jpg

 

http://www.haydensport.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/FE.png

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[Froggy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32455354

 

Alex Ferguson giving a good little insight into his view on Messi vs Ronaldo, paraphrashing a bit -

 

"Ronaldo can go play for QPR, Millwall and score a hat trick because he's got two feet, strong in the air and very brave. I don't think Messi could do the same. Messi is a Barcelona player".

 

Interesting view from probably the best manager of all time, if you have an entire team built around Messi's strengths, then Messi can probably look better than Ronaldo. But Ferguson reckons Ronaldo can raise the level of the team on his own. From this mentality alone, Ferguson is comparing Ronaldo more with Maradona than Messi in his ability to carry a team alone.

 

How anyone who has seen Messi over the years can come to this conclusion is beyond me.

 

http://media.top5ofanything.com/uploads/2015/02/American-Whiskey.jpg

 

http://www.haydensport.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/FE.png

http://e2.365dm.com/14/01/16-9/20/Paul-Pogba_3065198.jpg?20140112113701

 

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[ponsaelius]

State of Ferguson by the end, the miserable pisshead. Phil Jones - "he could be our best ever player"

 

Stupid old cunt.

[Flip]

Not even you froggy can agree with what Sir Alex said.

[triggs]

Not even you froggy can agree with what Sir Alex said.

Not sure Froggy does but I've encountered loads of Man Utd fans who think Ronaldo is better than Messi. It's sad really

[Mole_Toonfan]

Thinking he's better is fine, it's an opinion. But the reasoning used is just nonsense, Messi constantly wins games by himself and makes his team better. Where was this superior mentality when Portugal were knocked out of the group stages ??  Not his fault obviously but if he were actually like this then surely he'd be able to get Portugal past the yanks?

 

Ronaldo is a fantastic player but I really struggle to see the logic.

 

[Village Idiot]

What does my head in is the whole "Ronaldo is more complete" argument, just because he can score from headers or something. There's no way Ronaldo could drop to midfield and do the things Messi does there, for example.

[Fenham Mag]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32455354

 

Alex Ferguson giving a good little insight into his view on Messi vs Ronaldo, paraphrashing a bit -

 

"Ronaldo can go play for QPR, Millwall and score a hat trick because he's got two feet, strong in the air and very brave. I don't think Messi could do the same. Messi is a Barcelona player".

 

Interesting view from probably the best manager of all time, if you have an entire team built around Messi's strengths, then Messi can probably look better than Ronaldo. But Ferguson reckons Ronaldo can raise the level of the team on his own. From this mentality alone, Ferguson is comparing Ronaldo more with Maradona than Messi in his ability to carry a team alone.

 

How anyone who has seen Messi over the years can come to this conclusion is beyond me.

 

http://media.top5ofanything.com/uploads/2015/02/American-Whiskey.jpg

 

http://www.haydensport.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/FE.png

http://e2.365dm.com/14/01/16-9/20/Paul-Pogba_3065198.jpg?20140112113701

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9635573.ece/alternates/w460/168662742.jpg

 

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[Fenham Mag]

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[astraguy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32455354

 

Alex Ferguson giving a good little insight into his view on Messi vs Ronaldo, paraphrashing a bit -

 

"Ronaldo can go play for QPR, Millwall and score a hat trick because he's got two feet, strong in the air and very brave. I don't think Messi could do the same. Messi is a Barcelona player".

 

Interesting view from probably the best manager of all time, if you have an entire team built around Messi's strengths, then Messi can probably look better than Ronaldo. But Ferguson reckons Ronaldo can raise the level of the team on his own. From this mentality alone, Ferguson is comparing Ronaldo more with Maradona than Messi in his ability to carry a team alone.

So that's why Ronaldo does so well in major international tournaments

Ronaldo has carried portugal tons of times, Where was messi in the final ?

[triggs]

What does my head in is the whole "Ronaldo is more complete" argument, just because he can score from headers or something. There's no way Ronaldo could drop to midfield and do the things Messi does there, for example.

Ronaldo is clearly less complete like. He's as good a goal scorer as Messi and Messi is better at every single other thing that is important for the positions they play

 

[ponsaelius]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32455354

 

Alex Ferguson giving a good little insight into his view on Messi vs Ronaldo, paraphrashing a bit -

 

"Ronaldo can go play for QPR, Millwall and score a hat trick because he's got two feet, strong in the air and very brave. I don't think Messi could do the same. Messi is a Barcelona player".

 

Interesting view from probably the best manager of all time, if you have an entire team built around Messi's strengths, then Messi can probably look better than Ronaldo. But Ferguson reckons Ronaldo can raise the level of the team on his own. From this mentality alone, Ferguson is comparing Ronaldo more with Maradona than Messi in his ability to carry a team alone.

So that's why Ronaldo does so well in major international tournaments

Ronaldo has carried portugal tons of times, Where was messi in the final ?

 

He was there, in the final. Playing football. Ronaldo was watching it on holiday.

[triggs]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32455354

 

Alex Ferguson giving a good little insight into his view on Messi vs Ronaldo, paraphrashing a bit -

 

"Ronaldo can go play for QPR, Millwall and score a hat trick because he's got two feet, strong in the air and very brave. I don't think Messi could do the same. Messi is a Barcelona player".

 

Interesting view from probably the best manager of all time, if you have an entire team built around Messi's strengths, then Messi can probably look better than Ronaldo. But Ferguson reckons Ronaldo can raise the level of the team on his own. From this mentality alone, Ferguson is comparing Ronaldo more with Maradona than Messi in his ability to carry a team alone.

So that's why Ronaldo does so well in major international tournaments

Ronaldo has carried portugal tons of times, Where was messi in the final ?

Portugal didn't get past the group stages mate with Ronaldo missing loads of chances against Ghana iirc. And don't give me this shit that the rest of the Portugal team were basically part timers. They very nearly got to a Euro 2012 final two years before. Also a very limited USA qualified from their group. I presume you are talking about the Sweden playoff when you talk of great Ronaldo performances for Portugal. The only reason they needed a playoff is because they couldn't finish ahead of Russia, who were also very limited. Surely if Ronaldo was always so good for Portugal, he could've guided them to victory over Russia

[Scotty66]

Someone once asked me who I'd rather have in my team,Messi or Ronaldo.

 

I chose Ronaldo.

 

I don't think there's no right or wrong answer tbh,people will always have different opinions.

 

But for me in my make believe fantasy team and the style and system I would play,Ronaldo would be far more effective than Messi.