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Football's greatest - where does Lionel Messi rank?


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Today is the 9th anniversary of his senior debut, coming in as a sub against Espanyol.

 

http://media4.fcbarcelona.com/media/asset_publics/resources/000/031/389/size_640x360/2004-10-16_MESSI_01-Optimized.v1364912930.JPG

 

http://media2.fcbarcelona.com/media/asset_publics/resources/000/031/392/size_640x360/2004-10-16_MESSI_04-Optimized.v1364912938.JPG

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Did he score? Is that Valdes in the middle?

 

No on both accounts, the Valdés lookalike is then-reserve keeper Rubén, I think.

 

Found the moment he came on:

 

http://img01.mundodeportivo.com/2012/10/16/El-debut-oficial-de-Leo-Messi-_54353102318_54115221213_490_300.jpg

 

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Did he score? Is that Valdes in the middle?

 

No on both accounts, the Valdés lookalike is then-reserve keeper Rubén, I think.

 

Found the moment he came on:

 

http://img01.mundodeportivo.com/2012/10/16/El-debut-oficial-de-Leo-Messi-_54353102318_54115221213_490_300.jpg

 

 

overrated, tbh. :memelol:

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Today is the 9th anniversary of his senior debut, coming in as a sub against Espanyol.

 

http://media4.fcbarcelona.com/media/asset_publics/resources/000/031/389/size_640x360/2004-10-16_MESSI_01-Optimized.v1364912930.JPG

 

Who are the other fellas?

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Damià Abella (now at Osasuna), Ruben Martínez (now at Rayo)... the other two I'm not sure. Nobody that made it, that's for sure.

 

Iniesta and Fernando Navarro (now at Sevilla) also sat in the bench that day:

 

http://media1.fcbarcelona.com/media/asset_publics/resources/000/031/390/size_640x360/2004-10-16_MESSI_03-Optimized.v1364912933.JPG

 

EDIT: Pulling out the match report from that day the other two subs are Peña and Cristian Hidalgo. Don't remember much about them.

 

 

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At 17, Pele was 25.

 

:lol:

 

So racist. And coming from you and all. Horrible feeling reading that post.

 

:lol: You race carding me. If this was the NFL thread I would have mentioned that this is the first time you defended a dark Brazilian, but I didn't do that here because it sounds mean outside that thread.

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At 17, Pele was 25.

 

:lol:

 

So racist. And coming from you and all. Horrible feeling reading that post.

 

:lol: You race carding me. If this was the NFL thread I would have mentioned that this is the first time you defended a dark Brazilian, but I didn't do that here because it sounds mean outside that thread.

 

:lol:

 

NBA thread you mean?

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At 17, Pele was 25.

 

:lol:

 

So racist. And coming from you and all. Horrible feeling reading that post.

 

:lol: You race carding me. If this was the NFL thread I would have mentioned that this is the first time you defended a dark Brazilian, but I didn't do that here because it sounds mean outside that thread.

 

:lol:

 

NBA thread you mean?

 

:lol: Probably. It's all the same shit.

 

Seriously though. Can you even compare players that played so far apart? You just have to break it down by generation/era, imo.

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At 17, Pele was 25.

 

:lol:

 

So racist. And coming from you and all. Horrible feeling reading that post.

 

:lol: You race carding me. If this was the NFL thread I would have mentioned that this is the first time you defended a dark Brazilian, but I didn't do that here because it sounds mean outside that thread.

 

:lol:

 

NBA thread you mean?

 

:lol: Probably. It's all the same s***.

 

Seriously though. Can you even compare players that played so far apart? You just have to break it down by generation/era, imo.

 

Been there. But we all came to the conlusion that after Pele you can break it down in generations.

 

Garrincha - Maradona - Cruyff - Messi etc.

 

But Pele above all ;)

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Maradona>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>messi  :knuppel2:

 

Maradona's first touch is biblical  :blush:

 

<snip>

 

Not as biblical as your incompetence.

Neil why???  ;D youtube 1986 not PL

:dave: :whistle:

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Maradona>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>messi  :knuppel2:

 

Maradona's first touch is biblical  :blush:

 

<snip>

 

Not as biblical as your incompetence.

Neil why???  ;D youtube 1986 not PL

:dave: :whistle:

 

lire les règles que vous goinfre vin

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At 17, Pele was 25.

 

:lol:

 

So racist. And coming from you and all. Horrible feeling reading that post.

 

:lol: You race carding me. If this was the NFL thread I would have mentioned that this is the first time you defended a dark Brazilian, but I didn't do that here because it sounds mean outside that thread.

 

:lol:

 

NBA thread you mean?

 

:lol: Probably. It's all the same s***.

 

Seriously though. Can you even compare players that played so far apart? You just have to break it down by generation/era, imo.

 

Been there. But we all came to the conlusion that after Pele you can break it down in generations.

 

Garrincha - Maradona - Cruyff - Messi etc.

 

But Pele above all ;)

In terms of impact you would have to say Maradona. No player before or after single handedly improved a team the way Maradona did. Pele was the jewel in the crown of those Brazil teams. While pele won three world cups he was not their most important player in 58 and 62 , 70. In 1986 and 1990 Maradona was Argentina's only player.
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