themanupstairs Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Individually his performance in his last Liverpool season is as good as it's been in the PL. You seem like the most erudite person I've seen on here who the fuck's this? Well played mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Seems stubborn and making the same mistakes regarding recruitement and the over reliance on good lookin skinny young boys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBlackAndWhite Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Shouldn't Liverpool get some kind of punishment for not letting Suarez go to Arsenal when his release clause was met Suárez would have to sue them for breach of contract I suppose. I don't think he's bothered right now. Honestly, I'm pretty sure Suárez or his agent would have pressed the clause if Suárez really wanted to go to Arsenal. Wasn't there some ambiguity in the clause that Liverpool exploited? Something like it said that Liverpool had to allow Suarez to talk to any club that bid £40m, but it didn't spell out that they had to sell him. that's what a release clause IS. You can't actually force a player to leave, he can just refuse to enter into contract negotiations. But if his release clause is met, then if he wants to go he can go for that price. Liverpool did tell arsenal to fuck off, which technically they weren't allowed to do, but Suarez will just say he told liverpool he wasn't interested if arsenal ever tried to do anything about it. Interestingly enough, when Messi was 17 he had a release clause of 140+ mil, and it was met by AC milan but he decided against the move. Whoever that talent scout was, get him to the toon please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Shouldn't Liverpool get some kind of punishment for not letting Suarez go to Arsenal when his release clause was met Suárez would have to sue them for breach of contract I suppose. I don't think he's bothered right now. Honestly, I'm pretty sure Suárez or his agent would have pressed the clause if Suárez really wanted to go to Arsenal. Wasn't there some ambiguity in the clause that Liverpool exploited? Something like it said that Liverpool had to allow Suarez to talk to any club that bid £40m, but it didn't spell out that they had to sell him. that's what a release clause IS. You can't actually force a player to leave, he can just refuse to enter into contract negotiations. But if his release clause is met, then if he wants to go he can go for that price. Liverpool did tell arsenal to f*** off, which technically they weren't allowed to do, but Suarez will just say he told liverpool he wasn't interested if arsenal ever tried to do anything about it. Interestingly enough, when Messi was 17 he had a release clause of 140+ mil, and it was met by AC milan but he decided against the move. Whoever that talent scout was, get him to the toon please. Normally you'd be correct but the reply earlier was in fact correct. The £40m was allowed to talk only not the purchase price bizarrely. Basically Liverpool tricked Suarez and his agent which they only discovered later in the small print as such. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 The media seemed to be closing in on him. Personally, I think he's still got it and Arsenal would be mad to get rid of him. I always felt that the best way of boosting their title chances would have been for them to be knocked out of the Champions League early. It'll now surely happen, but a bit too late. I just don't think they've got the quality in depth to chase both Premiership and Champions League. Not that it's a bad squad, but the CL is extremely demanding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Season in season out he fails to address the key areas that actually won him the title years ago. A solid defence and bruising midfield that can mix it up as well as dazzle. Giroud isn't title winning material either but if their midfield and defence was tougher and they had more leaders it might not matter. Mertesacker in central defence ffs? Lol Roy Keane said Arsenal players were more interested in "6 packs and selfies" than winning, ha. Maybe a bit harsh but I agree with him that there isn't enough character or substance there. Leciester winning the league (or Spurs) would be the ultimate insult this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Arsenal (and other fans) who believe they will do better without him are delusional. Hope he stays, but will enjoy watching them become Man Utd with less money after he leaves. I agree with Cronky's assessment. With the injuries they seem to pick up (plus a lack of depth up front and at CB), two big competitions stretches then way too thin - exacerbated by generally being in the domestic cup competitions in the later stages. It's nowhere even close to "sackable" but Wenger's judgment when it comes to Giroud has been poor. He did astutely try for Suarez though. Would have won by a absolute countrymile this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 He has been there for 20 years now and I reckon this WILL be his last season. Arsenal are now going to want to be genuine PL challengers instead of also-rans and whilst he has been a great manager for them, they will now be thinking its time for a new broom. I only hope it doesn't turn out to be Rafa.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Shouldn't Liverpool get some kind of punishment for not letting Suarez go to Arsenal when his release clause was met Suárez would have to sue them for breach of contract I suppose. I don't think he's bothered right now. Honestly, I'm pretty sure Suárez or his agent would have pressed the clause if Suárez really wanted to go to Arsenal. Wasn't there some ambiguity in the clause that Liverpool exploited? Something like it said that Liverpool had to allow Suarez to talk to any club that bid £40m, but it didn't spell out that they had to sell him. that's what a release clause IS. You can't actually force a player to leave, he can just refuse to enter into contract negotiations. But if his release clause is met, then if he wants to go he can go for that price. Liverpool did tell arsenal to f*** off, which technically they weren't allowed to do, but Suarez will just say he told liverpool he wasn't interested if arsenal ever tried to do anything about it. Interestingly enough, when Messi was 17 he had a release clause of 140+ mil, and it was met by AC milan but he decided against the move. Whoever that talent scout was, get him to the toon please. His name is Doc Brown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Ran out of excuses. He's going to finish the season behind at least 1 team with significantly less resources than him. Hasn't had an 84+ point season in yonks. He's one of my favourite people in football but it's time to go. He won't win the league this year, he won't win it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 If Arsenal force Wenger out I hope they drop like a stone. Consistent 3rd and 4th place finishes won't seem so bad when they are playing away to Alkmaar on a Thursday night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 If Arsenal force Wenger out I hope they drop like a stone. Consistent 3rd and 4th place finishes won't seem so bad when they are playing away to Alkmaar on a Thursday night. Arsenal are NOT NUFC....the two clubs couldn't be run more differently. Whereas they are ambitious and professional in all they do(the fact that Wenger has lasted 20 years tells you that..), we pick the wrong directors, managers and players as often as changing underwear...if Rafa gets any hassle from above, he would go there like a shot, even if we stayed up. Hard to imagine that we once beat them in Cup Finals..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Arsenal aren't ambitious. They'll win more trophies in the next 10 years than in the previous imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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