Ronaldo Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Ask a Boro fan who had to watch him in the Championship instead of just assuming he's good enough because he's ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 He's League One standard. Championship is too much for him. What tosh. I'm not sure, seen nothing from him at our place to suggest he's good enough. Didn't see him at boro mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Ridiculously underrated on here for some reason, most probably his surname. He's a young player with decent pace, good dribbling and alright shooting. I saw him in the flesh vs Brugge (away 2-2) and he was arguably our best player. I'd say he already offers more offensively than the likes of Jonas (who I would only consider playing against stronger opposition due to his defensive capabilities) and Obertan. At least he's not afraid to try and make something happen and has some decent end product. A year in the Championship would be good for him and us, but only if we strengthen in the wide positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Ridiculously underrated on here for some reason, most probably his surname. He's a young player with decent pace, good dribbling and alright shooting. I saw him in the flesh vs Brugge (away 2-2) and he was arguably our best player. I'd say he already offers more offensively than the likes of Jonas (who I would only consider playing against stronger opposition due to his defensive capabilities) and Obertan. At least he's not afraid to try and make something happen and has some decent end product. A year in the Championship would be good for him and us, but only if we strengthen in the wide positions. What has he done to be 'rated'? Cant think of a game he has imposed himself on (I was shit faced for the game you talk about so cant comment). He seems to have a few tricks but for me that's about it. He looked totally lost in the times I watched him in the league, positioning was atrocious. . Like I say, i'm only judging him based on his time with us, no idea how he done in the Champ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 You forfeited your right to have an opinion when you admitted to being a drunk. Get help. If not for you, for your loved ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Ridiculously underrated on here for some reason, most probably his surname. He's a young player with decent pace, good dribbling and alright shooting. I saw him in the flesh vs Brugge (away 2-2) and he was arguably our best player. I'd say he already offers more offensively than the likes of Jonas (who I would only consider playing against stronger opposition due to his defensive capabilities) and Obertan. At least he's not afraid to try and make something happen and has some decent end product. A year in the Championship would be good for him and us, but only if we strengthen in the wide positions. Completely agree, no matter how much anyone protests or disagrees being Sammy AMEOBI definitely goes against him. He looks awkward as fuck at times, like he's never kicked a ball then will pull out some ridiculous skill from somewhere. He is so raw and unpredictable he could go either way but he adds something. Not even sure where his real position is but I would prefer to chuck him on for the last 20 minutes than I would his brother. A seasons loan would give us a better idea of how he is going to progress, Bolton would be a very good club for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 You forfeited your right to have an opinion when you admitted to being a drunk. Get help. If not for you, for your loved ones. But this is why I drink? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Nobody touching on why he was so poor in the Championship, then? He might turn out to be a decent player but he's got no natural instinct for scoring and has no end product. League One would be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Agree with Ronaldo on this one. The kid has nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Nobody touching on why he was so poor in the Championship, then? He might turn out to be a decent player but he's got no natural instinct for scoring and has no end product. League One would be fine. I haven't seen him at Boro, but I have seen him play for us a few times, albeit mostly in Europe and in the cups, and in those appearances I have seen he's a far better and more promising player than you make out. I also wouldn't say his end product is lacking. In relative terms, i.e. corrected for minutes played I'd argue it's quite a bit better than most of our other players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 For a 21-year-old he's woefully underdevloped physically, technically and mentally. A lot of that is the club's fault, but there it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 For a 21-year-old he's woefully underdevloped physically, technically and mentally. A lot of that is the club's fault, but there it is. Yup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Completely agree, no matter how much anyone protests or disagrees being Sammy AMEOBI definitely goes against him. It's the only reason why he's at our club so it's very pertinent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Whether he had potential or not, it's been left too long rot in the neverland between being afraid to loan players out due paperthin squad & throwing in with several others without experience as per always. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Completely agree, no matter how much anyone protests or disagrees being Sammy AMEOBI definitely goes against him. It's the only reason why he's at our club so it's very pertinent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Nonsense, he is at the club because he is a young local lad who has shown some talent. Why wasn't Tomi kept on if all you needed was that surname? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 He's highly rated by a good number of Scouts, he has a lot to learn and has to beef up a bit but he could become a player. I'd happily send him out to the Championship for a year and see how he gets on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 He was playing for Whitely Bay not too long ago. That's why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 For a 21-year-old he's woefully underdevloped physically, technically and mentally. A lot of that is the club's fault, but there it is. I know he looks akward, but he's quite good technically in my humble opinion, especially compared to other young English footballers. I'm also not sure how you can criticise his mentality; I mean, what do you base this on? He's never done anything on the pitch other than tried his best to make things happen, often when others around him are stood still. I'm not aware of any off the pitch trouble either. Physically he's very lightweight indeed, but if he bulks up a bit he could surprise a few people yet it appears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 imo he's classic Championship standard, to say he's not good enough for that division is slightly harsh. Can't see him making the grade here but of course would love to be wrong. He's very similar to his brother in that he lacks any sort of footballing brain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 He was playing for Whitely Bay not too long ago. That's why. Because he was released at 15 or whatever, if the surname actually made any difference he would still be here now or at least into his 20's. Sammy is here because he has been one of our more talented youth players, not because he is an Ameobi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 He was playing for Whitely Bay not too long ago. That's why. Because he was released at 15 or whatever, if the surname actually made any difference he would still be here now or at least into his 20's. Sammy is here because he has been one of our more talented youth players, not because he is an Ameobi. We signed him because he's an Ameobi and have kept him because he hasn't played enough to be found out conclusively. He's Championship level at best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Needs a year in the Championship. Maybe two. If he hasn't looked a top Championship player in that time, he probably won't make it for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 He was playing for Whitely Bay not too long ago. That's why. Because he was released at 15 or whatever, if the surname actually made any difference he would still be here now or at least into his 20's. Sammy is here because he has been one of our more talented youth players, not because he is an Ameobi. We signed him because he's an Ameobi and have kept him because he hasn't played enough to be found out conclusively. He's Championship level at best. Aye, I'm sure the 5 years he has been here he has kept his head down enough for the coaches not to think "hang on, this lad is proper shit, he looks much worse than the other players around his age" that must be it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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