Ronaldo Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Nolan would have to replace either Ba or Cisse in our system anyway, not Cabaye, so it's a daft argument. Says who, by the way? Nolan was only ever a true goal threat when 2 strikers were on the pitch with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Aye, Nolan was part of a midfield two mainly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Cabaye's the better player by a mile and the replacement was wonderful wonderful business, but if we're playing long ball stuff Cabaye's virtually a hindrance and Nolan would be ideal, frankly. Pains me to type those words but there you go. Point is we shouldn't be playing long ball to begin with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Cabaye's the better player by a mile and the replacement was wonderful wonderful business, but if we're playing long ball stuff Cabaye's virtually a hindrance and Nolan would be ideal, frankly. Pains me to type those words but there you go. Point is we shouldn't be playing long ball to begin with. To be fair to him, I don't think he's suggesting that we should. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Oh i know i'm just making the point that we should be playing a way that suits these players not looking for players that suits long ball. But really that horse has been beated enough already so i'm probably going to stop bringing it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Dude, as Mick says, I'm not for one second advocating the long ball tactic. It's not something I'm totally against per se but it's almost criminally unsuitable for our current playing staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Dude, as Mick says, I'm not for one second advocating the long ball tactic. It's not something I'm totally against per se but it's almost criminally unsuitable for our current playing staff. Completely agree which is the entire point i'm making we should be playing a way that suits the players we have not playing a way that suited Carroll, Nolan, Barton etc etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 What's this new Cabaye song then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Ah, got it. Loved this one, sorry if a Giggszilla: Don't sell Cabaye Yohan Cabaye I just don't think you'll understand And if you sell Cabaye Yohan Cabaye You'll have a fucking riot on your hands! (Achy Breaky Heart) Brilliant that like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Well its slightly better than the Rupert the Bear one, but that's not difficult Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Would love to see Cabaye at the tip of a three man midfield, supported by Perch and Tiote/a class box-to-box midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 get the 'Staying Alive' song going, man. Even keep in someone saying 'everybody on the dancefloor'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 'You say Cabaye and I say Marveaux' still exists, dammit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 wonder if our players have seen this..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Some people would rather have Nolan than Cabaye. We need to cross breed them. It's the only answer. Cabaye's a much better footballer but strikes me as mentally soft and gets in the box less than the Pope. Nolan will probably hit double figures this year, Cabaye will likely get four or five. There's far too much emphasis being put on goals here. Cabaye is so much better than Nolan ffs. Nolan will probably score ten or so, Cabaye four or five, Paul Scholes maybe two or three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 You'd be putting emphasis on goals too if you supported a team who don't create clear chances and have very few natural finishers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Cabaye is a far better footballer than Nolan ever was, or ever would be - his problems are not in any lack of ability or effectiveness, but lie in the fact that he is not being used correctly or in a way that shows his strengths. He has looked far better when playing for France than he has at NUFC these past few months and in my opinion his best games for us were against Villa away last season and Man U at SJP last season. He is undoubtedly sore that the Debuchy transfer fell through after he did his best to sell the club to the player and he probably thinks that we are not going to keep making progfess under the current regime ; I won't be surprised if he is sold either in Jan or the summer. A disillusioned player if ever I saw one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Cabaye's goals are always going to be a bonus for me, we can't and shouldn't rely on them or expect them. The most important thing is whether he's imposing himself on games, making the right passes and contributing to creating the right rhythm in the game and comfort in possession. At the moment he isn't doing this really, and he's not being helped by Tiote's absence and the lack of dynamism in the rest of the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I think it's perfectly fair to expect a central midfielder who is a first team choice to chip in 6-9 goals a season. Of course we should expect them. I don't think Tiote's absence fully explains Cabaye's poor form as they've never been a particularly harmonious pairing. Like too many pairings in the side, there's a chronic lack of understanding between the two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Whose to say he won't? he's our joint 2nd top scorer As i said play him consistently as the most advanced midfielder instead of getting him to take to recieve the ball from the CB's and he will score goals. Anyway he's so much more than just goals but none the less play him in the role he's suppose to be in instead of being a bloody ball winner and he will score and create goals. No coincident he's played better this season when he's been given more freedom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 There's far too many excuses being made for Cabaye this season. It can't be his fault! It can't be! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 There's far too many excuses being made for Cabaye this season. It can't be his fault! It can't be! It's definitely both (player + manager). It's the same with Cisse; not playing to his strengths but he's playing absolutely shit anyway. Ba's somehow manifested seven goals out of our limp attack so far. Cisse's got no excuses for basic footballing attributes completely abandoning him, in the same way Cabaye's got no excuse for letting his poor mentality getting the better of him and him fading out of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 If you pay attention, my excuses are playing style, system and overall attacking game plan which are restricting our best players.... Not just Cabaye.... everyone. Well except for Ba anyway who is quite blatantly the only player who fits what we are doing at the moment and it shows with his performances. Players only perform when they are given the platform to perform by the tactics and style of play.... you can't expect players like Cisse, Cabaye and Ben Arfa to perform to the best when we are playing like this it's just not possible. Hell replace Cisse with Falcao, Cabaye with Xavi and Ben Arfa with Messi and we wouldn't do any better..... a massive example of this is Messi for Argentina for years they didn't give him the platform to perform and now they do he's performing.... coincidence? nope. Doesn't matter how good you are if you are not given the platform to perform then you won't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 There's far too many excuses being made for Cabaye this season. It can't be his fault! It can't be! It's definitely both (player + manager). It's the same with Cisse; not playing to his strengths but he's playing absolutely s*** anyway. Ba's somehow manifested seven goals out of our limp attack so far. Cisse's got no excuses for basic footballing attributes completely abandoning him, in the same way Cabaye's got no excuse for letting his poor mentality getting the better of him and him fading out of games. Agree with that. Some players just aren't pulling their weight and it exacerbates the other problems we're having. For all the criticism about Nolan needing the team built around him there's plenty of talk in here about Cabaye needing something similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 "Safety Jance" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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