Ste Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Did he down tools, or did we choose not to risk him in a game that we had very little chance of getting anything from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Did he down tools, or did we choose not to risk him in a game that we had very little chance of getting anything from? Nobody knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Something clearly happened behind the scenes but I find the whole "his heads been turned" so he doesn't have his head in the game a load of bollocks. Maybe he refused to play? Either way it was used as an excuse for the performance which wasn't good. Pardew spent the whole summer saying how well Cabaye was dealing with speculation and praising him then suddenly he couldn't play him because he'd had sme kind of mental breakdown after the Arsenal bid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I think it was purely down to us not wanting to risk injury with a high value player in a game where even a draw looked completely off the table. Cabaye will go along with this story as he will get his move eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I think it was purely down to us not wanting to risk injury with a high value player in a game where even a draw looked completely off the table. Cabaye will go along with this story as he will get his move eventually. Wouldn't put it past JFK to instruct Pardew very late that he couldn't select Cabaye for this very reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 We don't have to offer anything to make him stay, he's already agreed to his current contract. As you say though, we might want to sell if the price is right. I think he was sold a different vision that what he's seeing though. I bet he was promised signings and progression on the pitch, not the tight fisted nonsense we've had. Doesn't excuse not playing mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 For a start, when he first signed he told of how he was promised we would play a passing, progressive game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 For a start, when he first signed he told of how he was promised we would play a passing, progressive game. Yep exactly, not launch ball and a system that has zilch movement in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 We don't have to offer anything to make him stay, he's already agreed to his current contract. As you say though, we might want to sell if the price is right. I think he was sold a different vision that what he's seeing though. I bet he was promised signings and progression on the pitch, not the tight fisted nonsense we've had. Doesn't excuse not playing mind. This is exactly why Jose Enrique left. When we signed him we told him we'd be challenging to play Champions League football. Instead we got relegated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I think it was purely down to us not wanting to risk injury with a high value player in a game where even a draw looked completely off the table. Cabaye will go along with this story as he will get his move eventually. Wouldn't put it past JFK to instruct Pardew very late that he couldn't select Cabaye for this very reason. does strike me as orders from above, which I can put as part of my conspiracy theory in that JFK will keep him out until post window and he's hoping Pardew will be sacked by then so he can ride in and restore "kebab" to the starting line up and we mere peasants and stare in awe and wonder at this glorious achievement which will be "like a new signing" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 We don't have to offer anything to make him stay, he's already agreed to his current contract. As you say though, we might want to sell if the price is right. I think he was sold a different vision that what he's seeing though. I bet he was promised signings and progression on the pitch, not the tight fisted nonsense we've had. Doesn't excuse not playing mind. This is exactly why Jose Enrique left. When we signed him we told him we'd be challenging to play Champions League football. Instead we got relegated Ashley's vision Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I don't think the world cup has much if anything to do with Cabaye wanting to leave. He was shit for much of last season and they still picked him, and anyway if he went to Arsenal he risks not playing. Or at least reduced minutes. The damage was done last summer, in my opinion. Cabaye thought we were gonna push on, like we all did, but we've shown no ambition at all and have in fact regressed. So he's jumping ship and who could blame him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I don't think the world cup has much if anything to do with Cabaye wanting to leave. He was s*** for much of last season and they still picked him, and anyway if he went to Arsenal he risks not playing. Or at least reduced minutes. The damage was done last summer, in my opinion. Cabaye thought we were gonna push on, like we all did, but we've shown no ambition at all and have in fact regressed. So he's jumping ship and who could blame him? This is my view too. He will show what he can do, esp if he goes to Arsenal and we see him regularly.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I don't think the world cup has much if anything to do with Cabaye wanting to leave. He was s*** for much of last season and they still picked him, and anyway if he went to Arsenal he risks not playing. Or at least reduced minutes. The damage was done last summer, in my opinion. Cabaye thought we were gonna push on, like we all did, but we've shown no ambition at all and have in fact regressed. So he's jumping ship and who could blame him? Most newcastle fans will blame him sadly and totally overlook the factors in him wanting to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 L'Equipe think PSG might be "cooling their interest". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 If they are it's probably because they didn't understand a word of anything Kinnear said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodson Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 He has 3 years on his contract We bought him quite cheaply so we are not really risking a big investment in not playing him if it goes that far. Its a world cup year so he has to play. And also play well. Unless we get 20-25 mil for him, why on earth should we sell? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 We don't have to offer anything to make him stay, he's already agreed to his current contract. As you say though, we might want to sell if the price is right. I think he was sold a different vision that what he's seeing though. I bet he was promised signings and progression on the pitch, not the tight fisted nonsense we've had. Doesn't excuse not playing mind. This is exactly why Jose Enrique left. When we signed him we told him we'd be challenging to play Champions League football. Instead we got relegated He was a big part of why we got relegated though, not as shit as Colo first season but still.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 He has 3 years on his contract We bought him quite cheaply so we are not really risking a big investment in not playing him if it goes that far. Its a world cup year so he has to play. And also play well. Unless we get 20-25 mil for him, why on earth should we sell? Yep. My only concern is that his sale is directly linked to our chances of bringing in more players (LOL, etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 He has 3 years on his contract We bought him quite cheaply so we are not really risking a big investment in not playing him if it goes that far. Its a world cup year so he has to play. And also play well. Unless we get 20-25 mil for him, why on earth should we sell? Yep. My only concern is that his sale is directly linked to our chances of bringing in more players (LOL, etc). Given that he is widely believed to be a key character around the dressing room with the French contingent I'm not sure having him moping around in the stiffs is necessarily the best idea either, normally I'd be all for letting him train with the youths etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 It did seem like we were willing to pay the fee for Gomis TBH, not contingent on selling anyone. Obviously the question is then why we haven't done any deals at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 L'Equipe think PSG might be "cooling their interest". I think we've started a trend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 He has 3 years on his contract We bought him quite cheaply so we are not really risking a big investment in not playing him if it goes that far. Its a world cup year so he has to play. And also play well. Unless we get 20-25 mil for him, why on earth should we sell? Yep. My only concern is that his sale is directly linked to our chances of bringing in more players (LOL, etc). Given that he is widely believed to be a key character around the dressing room with the French contingent I'm not sure having him moping around in the stiffs is necessarily the best idea either, normally I'd be all for letting him train with the youths etc. Ah, missed that line. Obviously, if he is to stay, he needs to stay part of the first team squad, and play. He needs to play, for the World Cup, and we'll need him too as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 He hasn't been very good lately, but who has? Just have to think about the Chelsea game at home to remember how good he can be when the team works/plays like a team. Absolutely top class display in that game! Im sure that if he was to move on we'd realise how effective he can be, and good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 L'Equipe think PSG might be "cooling their interest". It could be that they have found out that Cabaye is more interested in going to Arsenal. In any case it seems unlikely that anyone is going to stump up the sort of fee we are looking for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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