r0cafella Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I know he will end up leaving this summer but personally I'm grateful for what he's done. Top players should show ambition and want to win things, until we match that as a club I can't hole a grudge against anyone who wants to better themselves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 His attitude since he came back has been brilliant but I wonder what it would have been like if there wasn't a World Cup looming. Irrelevant at the minute like as he's instrumental for us and our hopes of picking up points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 His goal is not being talked about much like, was an incredible strike. Yeah - very strange. Was a cracker. It was very well hit but the keeper has to do much better. Totally disagree with this - in general, a strike from 30 yards does pose questions about a keeper's competence but if you saw the shot from behind Cabaye, as on the TV replay, you can see that the bend of the ball and the placement of it gave Mignolet NO chance of stopping it - he dived in good time, but it was just too far to his right for him to reach. One of the best long-range goals I've seen, in the class of Arie Haan of Holland who hit 2 amazing strikes in the 78 WC in Argentina. He misjudged it because of the bounce. No chance of stopping it, ffs. Whether you like it or not, he had NO chance of stopping it - Cabaye has hit too many long range strikes for them to be classed as keeper errors or flukes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 They had Ray Clemence in the studio on Al Jazeera and he said Mignolet was at fault - pointed out if had taken a small step to his right before diving he would've reached it comfortably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 He beat the keeper it doesn't matter if the keeper could have done better or not, takes nothing away from a fantastic strike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 They had Ray Clemence in the studio on Al Jazeera and he said Mignolet was at fault - pointed out if had taken a small step to his right before diving he would've reached it comfortably. Goals on Sunday blamed Sakho for being in his way. I blame Yohan Cabaye's boot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 His goal is not being talked about much like, was an incredible strike. Yeah - very strange. Was a cracker. It was very well hit but the keeper has to do much better. Totally disagree with this - in general, a strike from 30 yards does pose questions about a keeper's competence but if you saw the shot from behind Cabaye, as on the TV replay, you can see that the bend of the ball and the placement of it gave Mignolet NO chance of stopping it - he dived in good time, but it was just too far to his right for him to reach. One of the best long-range goals I've seen, in the class of Arie Haan of Holland who hit 2 amazing strikes in the 78 WC in Argentina. He misjudged it because of the bounce. No chance of stopping it, ffs. Whether you like it or not, he had NO chance of stopping it - Cabaye has hit too many long range strikes for them to be classed as keeper errors or flukes. Quintessential Merlin post, this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 They had Ray Clemence in the studio on Al Jazeera and he said Mignolet was at fault - pointed out if had taken a small step to his right before diving he would've reached it comfortably. If you watch any goal in slow motion, after the event the keeper probably could have done something else to save it. Hate these pointless hindsight things the media do. Can't we just say it was a bloody good strike that went in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 The goal was perfectly taken and the bounce just in front of the keeper ensured he was never going to save it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 The ball was knuckling quite a bit as well. Mignolet dove late because it appeared as though the ball was coming straight for him, but by then it was too late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Strawberry corner had the perfect view for his goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 His best perfomance for ages, needs to keep it up because he owes the fans one after his summer shenanigans IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 The goal was perfectly taken and the bounce just in front of the keeper ensured he was never going to save it. No keeper is getting to that like. It originally looks like it'll be an easy save but the ball veers left and keeps on going away from his right hand. The bounce is the final nail in the coffin as it zips of the slick surface. Blaming a keeper for that is ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Slapping the badge anarl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 The ball was knuckling quite a bit as well. Mignolet dove late because it appeared as though the ball was coming straight for him, but by then it was too late. Exactly this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 There's no stopping him at the moment. When he breaks forward he can try his precise long range shots and if you try to close him down he has the ability to thread a precise through pass to one of his teammates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 http://twitter.com/smiley_nufc/status/392404683018764288/photo/1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 His goal is not being talked about much like, was an incredible strike. Yeah - very strange. Was a cracker. It was very well hit but the keeper has to do much better. Totally disagree with this - in general, a strike from 30 yards does pose questions about a keeper's competence but if you saw the shot from behind Cabaye, as on the TV replay, you can see that the bend of the ball and the placement of it gave Mignolet NO chance of stopping it - he dived in good time, but it was just too far to his right for him to reach. One of the best long-range goals I've seen, in the class of Arie Haan of Holland who hit 2 amazing strikes in the 78 WC in Argentina. He misjudged it because of the bounce. No chance of stopping it, ffs. Whether you like it or not, he had NO chance of stopping it - Cabaye has hit too many long range strikes for them to be classed as keeper errors or flukes. Quintessential Merlin post, this. As was yours - no defence of MYM this time...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Nope, it was clearly Mapou's fault for Cabaye's goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 What I find strange is when experienced pundits who you would assume have a basic grasp of the laws of nature say 'It picked up speed off the surface'. Sorry, it didn't as that would be impossible as grass is inert and therefore unlikely to exert extra force on the ball. Perhaps I'm a pedant, but only if you spell it correctly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 What I find strange is when experienced pundits who you would assume have a basic grasp of the laws of nature say 'It picked up speed off the surface'. Sorry, it didn't as that would be impossible as grass is inert and therefore unlikely to exert extra force on the ball. Perhaps I'm a pedant, but only if you spell it correctly Surely if it's got topspin on it this could happen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 A spin bowler with rpm of 1500 can get a small change of pace, there is no way a football is anywhere near 1/100 th of that. In short no, I doubt it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Isn't that basically what a daisy cutter is? A shot with spin that either picks up speed, or at least doesn't lose speed in a predictable way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Isn't that basically what a daisy cutter is? A shot with spin that either picks up speed, or at least doesn't lose speed in a predictable way? That's what happens, the turf may be wet which reducess the friction on the ball and it moves quicker than if the turf was dry but it does not increase speed. Jesus, I am boring myself!! Sorry everyone!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Yeah what happens is your brain accounts for expected deceleration so when ball doesn't slow down as expected it appears to almost speed up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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