Willow Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 is the £23m figure official? where's it coming from Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Are we really ready to change system under Pardew though? Just keep it as it is with a player in the same mould as Cabaye. Not pissing about with more formations when most of our first XI were finally starting to settle down. we don't have a player in the same mould as Cabaye and your a brave/deluded person if you believe we're likely to get another one before friday. Anita's the next best comparison but he doesn't have the creative spark Cabaye has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJR99 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I think a lot of you are overestimating Cabaye's value. Maybe from a buying clubs perspective. But without him we've looked like absolute garbage at times, he could very easily be the difference between 8th and 13th or lower. His value to this club can't be measured just in $'s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 At the start of this window we needed a striker and some more creativity. That was before the Cabaye sale. We're now significantly weaker without even touching on the other issues. I'm dead against slotting another DM in there when the spark in our side was on short supply anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Douglas hinting about Capoue. Why would Tottenham sell him, is there another Capoue i'm unaware of ? They have been trying to sell him all window, Napoli have been heavily linked for a few weeks now. Anyways i don't understand why would you replace Cabaye with a player while good at what he does provides no more going forward than Tiote does ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Dont think Sherwood is that keen on him, but he's not the answer to replace Cabaye. He's much more defensive minded. Having another defensively minded player in midfield can give more scope to Ben Arfa (and others) going forward. Means they can pay less attention to their defensive duties. suppose having Tiote and for example Capoue with anita in front to link to a front three of HBA Remy and insert anyone but shola here could work but could get rather dull It's asking a lot of Anita. He's not really an attacking player, even though he's comfortable on the ball and passes well. neither is he really a defensive player much more the link between the two for me. Really liked the trio of Cabaye Anita and Tiote, Tiote to do the dirty work Anita great for keeping possession and Cabaye for that bit of magic in the attacking third. Without him, maybe put Sissoko in there and replace the flair with his running and physicality but its not exactly thrilling to think about it (and I like Sissoko) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Given his contract status and his unhappiness, it is kinda stupid money. Inevitable sales, just hope we can get someone in within 4 days He's got two and half years left on his contract man The ball is/was firmly in our court, if we don't play him he doesn't go to the world cup so he would have had no choice but to keep up the same level that he has shown this season. He has been such a fucking important player for us since arriving, that's what pisses me off the most about how obvious it has been that Ashley just wants to cash in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I think a lot of you are overestimating Cabaye's value. 20m seems reasonable to me. If I were the buying club I don't think I could have justified much more than that. And the comparisons with Mata... I'd agree with other clubs but to us he was the guy the entire team and set up was built around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I would honestly just move Sissoko (his natural position) central and start Ben Arfa where he was. It could get pretty dire to watch at times but this is the scenario we're left with now when its extremely unlikely we'll get no one in. HBA does have that magic so he needs to play now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 A direct replacement for cabaye role is anita. Sissoko move back to central and hatem to start on the right. I would still prefer a new striker over a new no.10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bert Shaft Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 The crux of the matter is still this, our billionaire owner is more interested in putting a few million quid more into his own back pocket than he is in showing any ambition for the cluband its fans by trying to win a trophy for himself and for the fans of the club as the lily livered capitulation against a sh*t Cardiff team in the cup showed. In fact the fat git don't even wanna finish in a European place because it might make him actually have to spend a tiny fraction of his vast fortune . f*** the greedy fat c*nt Mike Ashley, is he somehow under the impression that he can take all of this money "with him". And whilst we are at it, f*ck Alan Pardew ànarl. This greasy slimy mouthpiece for Ashley is the biggest two faced charlatan ever to set foot through the gates and doors of St James. This c*ntflap has done nothing but tout our best players to the highest bidder since day one, then he has the gall to sit in front of the cameras acting all hard done by. What a complete and utter c*nt. That is all. :-D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I think a lot of you are overestimating Cabaye's value. 20m seems reasonable to me. If I were the buying club I don't think I could have justified much more than that. And the comparisons with Mata... I'd agree with other clubs but to us he was the guy the entire team and set up was should have been built around This would have required a modicum of ambition sadly. The limit of our ambition is simply to stay up whilst spending/investing the absolute minimum year on year on year. No wonder the fucker wanted out and I don't blame him in the slightest. We're simply a stepping stone to bigger things and we're delighted with that. Make up the numbers, stay away from either end of the division, sell Frenchmen for a lot of money and that's about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Anita's not capable of giving us what Cabaye does. Tidy footballer who I want in the side but let's call a spade a spade here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I think a lot of you are overestimating Cabaye's value. 20m seems reasonable to me. If I were the buying club I don't think I could have justified much more than that. And the comparisons with Mata... I'd agree with other clubs but to us he was the guy the entire team and set up was built around Agreed, he was an important player. In a perfect world I would have liked to see him stay. But it's no secret that he misses France, has battled depression while being away. He has expressed his desire to return but been nothing but professional on the pitch. He's found a way back to France with a team willing to offer us a fair price, and who we aren't competing with directly. Sad to see him go but c'est la vie. No Major complaints. Hopefully we'll eventually sign someone younger and hungrier to replace him. It won't be in the next few days but I don't care about that. It's better the right player than just whoever is available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Anita's not capable of giving us what Cabaye does. Tidy footballer who I want in the side but let's call a spade a spade here. yep but he's the closest we have atm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I would honestly just move Sissoko (his natural position) central and start Ben Arfa where he was. I could get pretty dire to watch at times but this is the scenario we're left with now when its extremely unlikely we'll get no one in. HBA does have that magic so he needs to play now. Just having Ben Arfa on for 90 minutes would make me look forward to watching the match even more than I usually do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Anita's not capable of giving us what Cabaye does. Tidy footballer who I want in the side but let's call a spade a spade here. I love Anita like, I really do, but Cabaye's replacement he is not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 A direct replacement for cabaye role is anita Sissoko move back to central and hatem to start on the right. I would still prefer a new striker over a new no.10. Nope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I'd much sooner play Marveaux in front of Anita and Tiote than Sissoko taking Cabaye's place. It's the only way we'll get any creativity through the middle of the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I'd much sooner play Marveaux ahead of Anita and Tiote than Sissoko taking his place. It's the only way we'll get any creativity through the middle of the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Given his contract status and his unhappiness, it is kinda stupid money. Inevitable sales, just hope we can get someone in within 4 days He's got two and half years left on his contract man The ball is/was firmly in our court, if we don't play him he doesn't go to the world cup so he would have had no choice but to keep up the same level that he has shown this season. He has been such a f***ing important player for us since arriving, that's what pisses me off the most about how obvious it has been that Ashley just wants to cash in. You are overestimating cabayes value then.He is our fucking important player and seems to worth that much because we set up the whole team around him. We could also do the same to hatem and he can play like a 40m player too. It is just like Carroll under Hughton. Cabaye, as a 28 yrs old player with 2 yrs remaining, worth 15m max to me. You may disagree though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I'd much sooner play Marveaux in front of Anita and Tiote than Sissoko taking Cabaye's place. It's the only way we'll get any creativity through the middle of the pitch. I'd play Coloccini there once he's back, keep Mbiwa & Williamson together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest frazernufc Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I'd like to see Anita given abit more freedom to sort of fill the void of Cabaye tonight, was getting forward abit against West Ham while we were 2-0 and looked decent, but totally agree we cant use him as Cabayes replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Given his contract status and his unhappiness, it is kinda stupid money. Inevitable sales, just hope we can get someone in within 4 days He's got two and half years left on his contract man The ball is/was firmly in our court, if we don't play him he doesn't go to the world cup so he would have had no choice but to keep up the same level that he has shown this season. He has been such a f***ing important player for us since arriving, that's what pisses me off the most about how obvious it has been that Ashley just wants to cash in. You are overestimating cabayes value then.He is our fucking important player and seems to worth that much because we set up the whole team around him. We could also do the same to hatem and he can play like a 40m player too. It is just like Carroll under Hughton. Cabaye, as a 28 yrs old player with 2 yrs remaining, worth 15m max to me. You may disagree though Said it loads of times, but I don't think we would have survived last season without him, and I think we'd be in another relegation battle this year without him. How much is staying in the PL worth again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I'm happy with this potential price. They had us a little by the balls in the fact that Yohan certainly wanted the move and could buy his contract out for 6m in the summer. PSG look like they have played reasonably fair. I think what this gives us is a couple of different chances - to move Sissoko back into the middle where he belongs, start Anita regularly as he deserves and buy Cabella or likewise to spruce up our wing. - to sign a more attacking creative player through the middle like Grenier/hughes, with tons of upside. - for the love of god let this unlikeliest thing happen.... do both and sign Cabella and Grenier. We don't quite have the balance right now and miss someone of ben arfas quality to run and dribble through the middle and pose that attacking threat. Cabaye is a deep lying playmaker.. if we buy a more attacking mid, can anita step into his shoes to do some of that creativity plus the defensive side with Tiote. I think so. Could Sissoko come in to toughen up the midfield when we need a tighter game without the liability of an attacking mid. I think so too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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