ponsaelius Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 It doesn't benefit the South Americans in any way, shape or form. Hence why they laugh in the faces of CONCACAF whenever somebody suggests it. The problem is, whatever way you try to set it up, it shits on somebody somewhere within in the two regions. It's just completely unworkable and that's why it hasn't happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 For you guys that watched Costa Rica - Cuba. How did Celso Borges (Costa Rica captain) play? He's plays for my local club in Norway. Played central midfield. Was good against very weak opposition, hard to really say much as the Cubans were so bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Exactly, but there's no way CONMEBOL would risk one of their 100 year old members missing out on qualification to some caribbean team... just as the majority of CONCACAF would be pissed off at basically having 0 chance of qualifying for the competition. I don't know why you seem to think that this sort of merger should revolve around the south american countries. imo it would benefit both. And I don't think saying CONCACAF teams "having 0 chance of qualifying" is accurate... Jamaica and T&T managed to qualify for a World Cup in modern times, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 It doesn't benefit the South American teams man, that's why it doesn't happen. Why should they want a load of teams from ANOTHER CONTINENT diluting their competition when they've kept the same set-up for the last 100 years? It's like us expanding the Euros to have a load of North African sides in. They don't have 0 chance of qualifying, but the numbers of North American sides that can qualifiy would have to be reduced from 12? That doesn't suit their best interests at all. It suits Mexico, USA, Costa Rica, Honduras.. maybe 1 or 2 more... but the rest of the continent gets fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Copa America is not exactly perfect, is it?! I mean bloody Japan playing in a South American competition? And it's nothing like merging the euros with the africans, man. They're both competitive competitions. Anywya, I hope you enjoyed El-Salvador's performance. Did you spot any potential NUFC targets? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 The Copa America IS a competitive competition, man, probably the most so in the world! Do you know how hard it is to get out of South American qualifying? That's the argument here, there is no need for South America to dilute their competition because it's already very very good. They add two invitees to make up the numbers slightly for a workable format, which suits their best interests... having a whole other continent crash their party is not in their best interests. This is the major point to why it will never happen, but there are a whole plethora of others which work against it. And no, there was fuck all worth buying in the El Salvador team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Who gives a toss if CONCACAF competitions are balls? It's hardly South America's fault is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 As far as I'm concerned, beggars can't be choosers. There's fuck all football to be watched atm so I'm embracing the Gold Cup, and I'm embracing MLS. Even though the standard of MLS has been made even worse by all the Gold Cup call-ups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Exactly the same here. That's another reason why there should be no merger, rather have the two tournaments back to back and fill in 2 months of the dull off season rather than 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Exactly the same here. That's another reason why there should be no merger, rather have the two tournaments back to back and fill in 2 months of the dull off season rather than 1. Does it? I'll probably watch the inevitable US-Mexico final, but thw rest is just too poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Exactly the same here. That's another reason why there should be no merger, rather have the two tournaments back to back and fill in 2 months of the dull off season rather than 1. Does it? I'll probably watch the inevitable US-Mexico final, but thw rest is just too poor. Shit football is better than no football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliMag Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 The Final is in Pasedena (just north of LA) at the Rose Bowl. It will have the same atmosphere as a home game for Mexico when they get to the final. I would imagine 80-90% Mexico supporters will be there. Now that we (NUFC) are back in the Premier League I can't imagine there will be many (if any) players on show during the Gold Cup that we would want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 When don't they just merge this cup with the bloody Copa America to make it more comeptitive. sigh. Eh? The Copa America is likely to be competitive as fuck, 5 from the last 16 of the World Cup for starters and Colombia are decent on their day. Ecuador too. Only really Bolivia who are turboshit and even then they beat Argentina and Brazil in the last World Cup qualifying campaign. South America just suffers from a lack of countries in it, hence the guest slots which are not in anyway ideal but are better than nowt. The Gold Cup on the other hand suffers from having only 2 large countries that take football remotely seriously. Despite the passion for the game in certain Caribbean and Central American countries the infrastructure and talent depth just isn't there. Nowt you can do about it really apart from try to get those countries to develop their grassroots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 ...and by limiting those countries opportunities to play in continental competition (which a merger would do) then they're not likely to develop their infrastructure/ability level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Don't think I'll be staying up to watch tonight's wanky games like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Tuesday PM is US/Canada match, should be alright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Jamaica 4-0 Grenada and Honduras 0-0 Guatemala. Didn't watch either game but from the highlights Jamaica's 4th goal was class. USA vs Canada tonight should be a decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Ford Field with grass. Leaving in a few hours, only the second time I've seen the US play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Panama 2-0 Guadeloupe and Guadeloupe just had a man sent off for a stamp...not sure whether it was deliberate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Pleasantly excited for the match tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Pleasantly excited for the match tonight. Boston V Yankees or Mavs V Heat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Great game at the moment. Guadeloupe 3-0 down and down to 10 men, sub has scored twice and it's back to 3-2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 imma miss the US game so I can listen to some 18 yr old swot talk shite about life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Prediction? Pain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Canada to win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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