Ronaldo Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I genuinely think Leon can be moulded into a really good striker. The raw materials are all there, it's just about adding the judgement - and we saw plenty of evidence he has some - namely the Arsenal, Bolton and Everton games at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Been reading a bit more about Ba. Apparently he's a massive egotistical c*** with a penchant for being disruptive Hmmm, Got no problem with signing these types... but it just makes it crucial to keep Nolan/Barton to hold the team mentality and togetherness together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I genuinely think Leon can be moulded into a really good striker. The raw materials are all there, it's just about adding the judgement - and we saw plenty of evidence he has some - namely the Arsenal, Bolton and Everton games at home. West Ham Embarrassed the rest of our strikers with his weaker foot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I just think (and I said this when he was "the worst striker in the universe") he gets into good positions and is a pretty decent finisher. Nowt against the rest of what you said but i remember saying the same on here in that he is a good footballer but just not an out and out goalscorer. A lot of the work he put in even early on was good, always prepared to run and work the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I genuinely think Leon can be moulded into a really good striker. The raw materials are all there, it's just about adding the judgement - and we saw plenty of evidence he has some - namely the Arsenal, Bolton and Everton games at home. Yeh spot on. Also when he's had the chance he's scored goals - 6 goals in 10 games is exceptional plus he had a legitimate goal disallowed against Arsenal. He needs a prolonged period in the team but for some reason people don't afford him much credibility whatever he does! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Are you incapable of understanding that Best is a better player than Shola/Loven therefore keeping him as back up is sensible? Nobody has said Best as first choice whatsoever. We won't get two brass tacks for Shola or Lovenkrands for that very reason, which is why I think it's more likely we'll be lumbered with them for the next season and cash in on Best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 No chance, Best is above whatever else we currently have. Nope, no way Best will/can afford to be let go this summer If we're relying on keeping Best for as anything other than injury-crisis backup next season, the transfer window will have been a failure. If we are playing with 2 up front next season then Best should be our first option from the bench, with 2 new strikers starting. If he was flogged off to accomodate clowns like Ameobi and Lovenkrands I think I'd punch somebody in the mouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 No chance, Best is above whatever else we currently have. Nope, no way Best will/can afford to be let go this summer If we're relying on keeping Best for as anything other than injury-crisis backup next season, the transfer window will have been a failure. If we are playing with 2 up front next season then Best should be our first option from the bench, with 2 new strikers starting. If he was flogged off to accomodate clowns like Ameobi and Lovenkrands I think I'd punch somebody in the mouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Are you incapable of understanding that Best is a better player than Shola/Loven therefore keeping him as back up is sensible? Nobody has said Best as first choice whatsoever. We won't get two brass tacks for Shola or Lovenkrands for that very reason, which is why I think it's more likely we'll be lumbered with them for the next season and cash in on Best. Still can't see it. He's not worth enough to justify moving him on, compared to what he's worth to us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I just think (and I said this when he was "the worst striker in the universe") he gets into good positions and is a pretty decent finisher. Nowt against the rest of what you said but i remember saying the same on here in that he is a good footballer but just not an out and out goalscorer. A lot of the work he put in even early on was good, always prepared to run and work the line. I'm pretty sure Cajun was one of the few who didn't lay into Best during the early days though and he hadn't scored any goals then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I just think (and I said this when he was "the worst striker in the universe") he gets into good positions and is a pretty decent finisher. Nowt against the rest of what you said but i remember saying the same on here in that he is a good footballer but just not an out and out goalscorer. A lot of the work he put in even early on was good, always prepared to run and work the line. I'm pretty sure Cajun was one of the few who didn't lay into Best during the early days though and he hadn't scored any goals then. I know hence my agreement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Ba Striker Best Loven Ameobi Ranger (?) Looks ok to me. Especially if we can get Zoggy and another attacker in too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I can see us flogging Best this summer anyway. He only featured under Pardew by default and the fact he got a few goals means we might get a decent price for him from a Championship side. I don't think he's up to the job and suspect Pardew doesn't either- he was all set to leave on loan before Shola got injured at Fulham. Decent player as backup but can't see us resisting a couple of million for him. No. You're lying. Best started that night, ahead of Lovenkrands and Ranger. Something you should have remembered by conjuring up that complete rubbish. Pardew started him virtually every time he was fit after his first appearance back from injury, and even made noises about giving him the no.9 shirt in March. Mea culpa, the loan move talk was under Hughton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Tbf I stick up for people linked to NUFC long after the majority, even Perch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I genuinely think Leon can be moulded into a really good striker. The raw materials are all there, it's just about adding the judgement - and we saw plenty of evidence he has some - namely the Arsenal, Bolton and Everton games at home. I'm still flabbergasted by the fact we have a striker who is even worse at playing the offside trap than Shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I genuinely think Leon can be moulded into a really good striker. The raw materials are all there, it's just about adding the judgement - and we saw plenty of evidence he has some - namely the Arsenal, Bolton and Everton games at home. I'm still flabbergasted by the fact we have a striker who is even worse at playing the offside trap than Shola. So have AC Milan but he made a canny career out of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Tbf I stick up for people linked to NUFC long after the majority, even Perch Every time I hear Perch mentioned now, I just end up thinking of that storming own goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I genuinely think Leon can be moulded into a really good striker. The raw materials are all there, it's just about adding the judgement - and we saw plenty of evidence he has some - namely the Arsenal, Bolton and Everton games at home. I'm still flabbergasted by the fact we have a striker who is even worse at playing the offside trap than Shola. Best plays off the shoulder, Shola wanders around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I genuinely think Leon can be moulded into a really good striker. The raw materials are all there, it's just about adding the judgement - and we saw plenty of evidence he has some - namely the Arsenal, Bolton and Everton games at home. I'm still flabbergasted by the fact we have a striker who is even worse at playing the offside trap than Shola. Best plays off the shoulder, Shola wanders around. Pretty much, Best's offsides are usually from trying to get into a goal scoring position. With Shola its random Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I genuinely think Leon can be moulded into a really good striker. The raw materials are all there, it's just about adding the judgement - and we saw plenty of evidence he has some - namely the Arsenal, Bolton and Everton games at home. I'm still flabbergasted by the fact we have a striker who is even worse at playing the offside trap than Shola. What strikes me more is that he gets into goal scoring areas and then has converted with left foot, right foot and his head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Shola is just a law unto himself bless him, "offside" seems to be some game he played as school and he is really good at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I genuinely think Leon can be moulded into a really good striker. The raw materials are all there, it's just about adding the judgement - and we saw plenty of evidence he has some - namely the Arsenal, Bolton and Everton games at home. You can add Birmingham away into that. I though he was excellent that day. Dominated Roger Johnson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I genuinely think Leon can be moulded into a really good striker. The raw materials are all there, it's just about adding the judgement - and we saw plenty of evidence he has some - namely the Arsenal, Bolton and Everton games at home. I'm still flabbergasted by the fact we have a striker who is even worse at playing the offside trap than Shola. Best plays off the shoulder, Shola wanders around. Pretty much, Best's offsides are usually from trying to get into a goal scoring position. With Shola its random It's not random. It's a lack of intelligence. The amount of times he caught offside and he just grins like a gormless idiot as if it's some kind of novelty really annoys me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Been reading a bit more about Ba. Apparently he's a massive egotistical c*** with a penchant for being disruptive Hmmm, Got no problem with signing these types... but it just makes it crucial to keep Nolan/Barton to hold the team mentality and togetherness together. Definitely agree with that. Mind you, the only thing I've heard about Ba being disruptive was when he refused to play for Hoffenheim after they said that they wouldn't allow him to leave for the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Done it twice at Hoff...tried to force a move through to Stuttgart where he failed a medical then too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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