Demba Ba (now retired)

[madras]

  On 30/12/2012 at 23:58, tmonkey said:

Medical tomorrow morning. Will be sweating over this - Ba just needs to go all Gattaca on the treadmill and pretend the knee is fine.

what on earth did he do to you tmonkey ?

[BONTEMPI]

So who would be the so called replacement then?  Remy is the obvious one, but have we something else cooking?

[Beren]

  On 30/12/2012 at 23:59, madras said:

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Medical tomorrow morning. Will be sweating over this - Ba just needs to go all Gattaca on the treadmill and pretend the knee is fine.

what on earth did he do to you tmonkey ?

 

 

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[Ishmael]

Demba Ba's knee exploding on the treadmill tomorrow is the last thing we want.

[Mole_Toonfan]

  On 31/12/2012 at 00:02, BONTEMPI said:

So who would be the so called replacement then?  Remy is the obvious one, but have we something else cooking?

 

The other ones i have heard is Aubameyang from St Etienne and Rodrigo from Benfica can't say i know much outside of Fifa and FM but both seem to be highly rated especially Aubameyang.

[BONTEMPI]

This could be a blessing in disguise really for the good of the team.

[afar]

Thanks for the goals Ba, and we'll miss them for sure, but in everyone's interest I think for him to move on. Cisse needs to step up now though, and if Ameobi is off to ACON then we are ridiculously light up front. If we can get in a decent replacement (Remy would do), secure Mathieu and bring in another quality CB then we'll be better off in the long run I think. But I know we have no control over the situation but it's an incredibly risky situation for a relegation candidate to lose their top score by a wide margin, in January.

[AlanSkÃrare]

Happy it didn't come to this

 

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/mark-lawrenson/Mark-Lawrenson-column-Liverpool-will-be-a-force-next-season-if-they-can-just-raise-the-Ba-up-front-article882126.html

[Guest Roy the Irish Magpie]

  On 31/12/2012 at 00:08, Mole_Toonfan said:

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So who would be the so called replacement then?  Remy is the obvious one, but have we something else cooking?

 

The other ones i have heard is Aubameyang from St Etienne and Rodrigo from Benfica can't say i know much outside of Fifa and FM but both seem to be highly rated especially Aubameyang.

 

Well what you know in fifa ignore it, never judge a player based on what they're like in that game hahaha. They had Carroll above 80 overall before ffs.

 

Football manager is definitely more trust worthy by the sounds of it. I don't play the game but I've heard a lot of "Wonder kids" it has successfully predicted to come good.

[Mole_Toonfan]

Yeah i know 

 

Just saying that's were my knowledge of those players is limited to, so basically nothing.

 

I hear good things but i have not seen enough to provide a decent opinion.

[littlelunchbox]

  On 31/12/2012 at 00:13, AlanSkärare said:

Happy it didn't come to this

 

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/mark-lawrenson/Mark-Lawrenson-column-Liverpool-will-be-a-force-next-season-if-they-can-just-raise-the-Ba-up-front-article882126.html

 

Yeh still in a way Liverpool has partly played a role in us losing Ba to Chelsea, they are forcing through the signing of Sturridge thus leading Chelsea to secure a back up striker that is Demba.

[Guest hatem garrincha]

  On 31/12/2012 at 00:16, Mole_Toonfan said:

Yeah i know 

 

Just saying that's were my knowledge of those players is limited to, so basically nothing.

 

I hear good things but i have not seen enough to provide a decent opinion.

 

Aubameyang is a very very good player.

[Guest Eggenberger]

  On 31/12/2012 at 00:10, BONTEMPI said:

This could be a blessing in disguise really for the good of the team.

 

Cant wait to get rid of the player scoring 80% of our goals myself either.

[AlanSkÃrare]

  On 31/12/2012 at 00:24, Eggenberger said:

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This could be a blessing in disguise really for the good of the team.

 

Cant wait to get rid of the player scoring 80% of our goals myself either.

[Guest Roy the Irish Magpie]

  On 31/12/2012 at 00:16, Mole_Toonfan said:

Yeah i know 

 

Just saying that's were my knowledge of those players is limited to, so basically nothing.

 

I hear good things but i have not seen enough to provide a decent opinion.

 

just looked at some "Experts" opinions on this Aubameyang guy.

 

Here's what I got from them

 

- Great speed, very quick

- Decent at performing a few tricks

- Shit passer, too greedy, doesn't link up with his team mates well

 

[Guest hatem garrincha]

  On 31/12/2012 at 00:31, Roy the Irish Magpie said:

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Yeah i know 

 

Just saying that's were my knowledge of those players is limited to, so basically nothing.

 

I hear good things but i have not seen enough to provide a decent opinion.

 

just looked at some "Experts" opinions on this Aubameyang guy.

 

Here's what I got from them

 

- Great speed, very quick

- Decent at performing a few tricks

- s*** passer, too greedy, doesn't link up with his team mates well

 

Well those "experts" speak bollocks.

[Guest Roy the Irish Magpie]

  On 31/12/2012 at 00:33, hatem garrincha said:

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Yeah i know 

 

Just saying that's were my knowledge of those players is limited to, so basically nothing.

 

I hear good things but i have not seen enough to provide a decent opinion.

 

just looked at some "Experts" opinions on this Aubameyang guy.

 

Here's what I got from them

 

- Great speed, very quick

- Decent at performing a few tricks

- s*** passer, too greedy, doesn't link up with his team mates well

 

Well those "experts" speak bollocks.

 

Haha perhaps so. That's why I put the experts part in quotations haha.

[Kasper]

  On 31/12/2012 at 00:25, AlanSkärare said:

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This could be a blessing in disguise really for the good of the team.

 

Cant wait to get rid of the player scoring 80% our team's goals myself either.

 

Better?

[AlanSkÃrare]

  On 31/12/2012 at 00:36, Kasper said:

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This could be a blessing in disguise really for the good of the team.

 

Cant wait to get rid of the player scoring 80% our team's goals myself either.

 

Better?

 

80% of our goals mean nothing if we're not playing well. I'd say it's rather a sign of a dysfunctional team to be so reliant on one player.

[Guest Eggenberger]

  On 31/12/2012 at 00:25, AlanSkärare said:

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This could be a blessing in disguise really for the good of the team.

 

Cant wait to get rid of the player scoring 80% of our goals myself either.

 

Are you suggesting Ba is some sort of Darren Bent, a tap in striker that relies on an entire squad having to be built around him, usurping goals from the entire team?

If so Im not having it. Its total bollocks. If anything Ba is rather a poor mans Zlatan, a total striker able to furfill a host of different roles depending on whats required of him.

Can hold up the ball, shoot, tap in, hold up defenders and more.

 

I hope for our sake our team will start to perform better and by all means if it was Ba causing us to play shite and just hoof it to him - happy days.

I doubt it though, he has become a scapegoat for those unable to cope with him leaving us without flinging mud.

[littlelunchbox]

  On 31/12/2012 at 00:40, Eggenberger said:

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This could be a blessing in disguise really for the good of the team.

 

Cant wait to get rid of the player scoring 80% of our goals myself either.

 

Are you suggesting Ba is some sort of Darren Bent, a tap in striker that relies on an entire squad having to be built around him, usurping goals from the entire team?

If so Im not having it. Its total bollocks. If anything Ba is rather a poor mans Zlatan, a total striker able to furfill a host of different roles depending on whats required of him.

Can hold up the ball, shoot, tap in, hold up defenders and more.

 

I hope for our sake our team will start to perform better and by all means if it was Ba causing us to play s**** and just hoof it to him - happy days.

I doubt it though, he has become a scapegoat for those unable to cope with him leaving us without flinging mud.

 

Ba cannot hold up the ball man, no more than Darren bent.  But unlike lazy Bent ,  Ba works hard and run about for the team.

 

He's nothing like zlatan apart from being tall and being a striker, nowhere near as lazy as him either.  Completely different skill sets they have.

[binnsy]

Not sure how much he would cost but wouldn't mind us bringing in a pacy, tricky forward like Dries Mertens from PSV, plus Belgian players seem all the rage at the minute and we don't have one!!

[AlanSkÃrare]

  On 31/12/2012 at 00:40, Eggenberger said:

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This could be a blessing in disguise really for the good of the team.

 

Cant wait to get rid of the player scoring 80% of our goals myself either.

 

Are you suggesting Ba is some sort of Darren Bent, a tap in striker that relies on an entire squad having to be built around him, usurping goals from the entire team?

If so Im not having it. Its total bollocks. If anything Ba is rather a poor mans Zlatan, a total striker able to furfill a host of different roles depending on whats required of him.

Can hold up the ball, shoot, tap in, hold up defenders and more.

 

I hope for our sake our team will start to perform better and by all means if it was Ba causing us to play s**** and just hoof it to him - happy days.

I doubt it though, he has become a scapegoat for those unable to cope with him leaving us without flinging mud.

 

Not scapegoating him at all. He's an excellent striker that would excel in a number of systems. However, our inept manager's lack of understanding with regards to handling Cissé AND Ba has caused us to play to Ba's strengths. This has meant we are relying on his goalscoring to an absolutely mental degree. His importance for our team isn't reflected through the percentage of goals he's scored this season. He's a great player, but those statistics does not reflect his importance. He's revelled in s*** football this season. He'd probably revel in good football too. That, however, seems unlikely as long as his demands stand and Pardew is uncapable of finding a functional formula.

 

As for comparing him to Zlatan, one of the most technically gifted players on the planet who combines that with superb physique and one of the most powerful finishing abilites in the world, I'm not so sure about that.

[QBG]

  On 31/12/2012 at 00:31, Roy the Irish Magpie said:

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Yeah i know 

 

Just saying that's were my knowledge of those players is limited to, so basically nothing.

 

I hear good things but i have not seen enough to provide a decent opinion.

 

just looked at some "Experts" opinions on this Aubameyang guy.

 

Here's what I got from them

 

- Great speed, very quick

- Decent at performing a few tricks

- s*** passer, too greedy, doesn't link up with his team mates well

 

 

That's a load of bollocks, has played very well this season and links up well with Hamouma and Gradel in the front three for Saint-Etienne.

[SEMTEX]

Don't know if its just people trying to make themselves feel better, but I dont understand how anyone can think losing Ba is in any way a positive.

 

The guy scores the majority of our goals, and contributes heavily to our insanely limited attacking moves. Now we basically need to rely on Cisse, which doesn't exactly look like a great idea given his form.