Demba Ba (now retired)

[madras]

his first touch has never been any good really. Strange that a footballer can have such great technique when striking a ball in the 18 yard area but not actually be able to control a pass to a decent standard.

i disagree slightly. some games his touch is excellent and the ball just sticks to him, others he controls the ball 10yds. he's very inconsistent in that way rather than just being crap at it.

[The College Dropout]

A lot of words. A lot of shit imo there Tmonkey.

[Zach]

Selling Demba Ba (especially if were going off his 7m release clause) would be mental.

[madras]

Selling Demba Ba (especially if were going off his 7m release clause) would be mental.

if it's going off his releause clause then we don't have a choice.

[Zach]

Selling Demba Ba (especially if were going off his 7m release clause) would be mental.

if it's going off his releause clause then we don't have a choice.

Well yeah but I was more talking about Tmonkey saying he would want to sell him.

[madras]

Selling Demba Ba (especially if were going off his 7m release clause) would be mental.

if it's going off his releause clause then we don't have a choice.

Well yeah but I was more talking about Tmonkey saying he would want to sell him.

oh right.

 

i'd rather not, however him and cisse playing very orthodox front 2 isn't going to help us in any way.

[Kanj]

Demba Ba is the best striker we've had since Alan Shearer.  His all-around play was much better last season and he was getting the chances out wide playing left - I don't understand the notion that him playing out wide hurt him. He still had excellent chances to score and he missed every single one via the post, deflection, or poor finishing on his part.

[Dave]

[Jack Flash]

http://i45.tinypic.com/241kqae.jpg

 

I assume this has changed today but still highlights how important he's been this season.

 

*commence boring formation talk*

[Wullie]

Don't really know what point you're trying to make there. He has scored most of our goals. We know that.

[Mole_Toonfan]

He's important because of how deep the rest of the players are.....

 

Ben Arfa and Cabaye are defending because we are overrun and Cisse is either out wide tracking back or just never in the box.

 

Besides Ba has 2 in his last 8 the same as Cabaye and Cisse....

 

We all know what the issues are this doesn't prove anything, point is we actually played in a way which suited the players and not tracking back all the time then there would be more threats and we wouldn't have to rely on Ba feeding of knockdowns.

[Jack Flash]

Highest contribution of any player in the league. Papering over them (growing) cracks still.

[Wullie]

So in your head it's a positive that we've only scored 14 goals because it means one player has a higher "contribution"?

[Jack Flash]

So in your head it's a positive that we've only scored 14 goals because it means one player has a higher "contribution"?

 

Such a child

 

I'm accentuating the positive that SOMEONE is doing something to save us. The manager certainly isn't and very few players are.

[taxfree]

[Wullie]

So in your head it's a positive that we've only scored 14 goals because it means one player has a higher "contribution"?

 

Such a child

 

I'm accentuating the positive that SOMEONE is doing something to save us. The manager certainly isn't and very few players are.

 

He's got two in his last eight games and one of those was a 93rd minute consolation so he's not doing that much.

[Jack Flash]

So in your head it's a positive that we've only scored 14 goals because it means one player has a higher "contribution"?

 

Such a child

 

I'm accentuating the positive that SOMEONE is doing something to save us. The manager certainly isn't and very few players are.

 

He's got two in his last eight games and one of those was a 93rd minute consolation so he's not doing that much.

 

And the games before those 8? In which we were still playing badly? Aye.

[Wullie]

I'd sooner Ba moved out left so that the team was better equipped to score more goals but as long as you're happy.

[Jack Flash]

Still effortlessly childish.

 

Pardew said in the summer that Ba would be through the middle for 95% of the games. Might as well get used to it.

[ujpest doza]

So in your head it's a positive that we've only scored 14 goals because it means one player has a higher "contribution"?

 

Such a child

 

I'm accentuating the positive that SOMEONE is doing something to save us. The manager certainly isn't and very few players are.

Not for a few games he hasn't mind.

 

[Dr Venkman]

The "flick a switch and up we go" attitude is what I'm questioning. There's more to turning an entire season around than just changing a formation. We were 6th going into the West Brom game, high on confidence and well motivation which both obviously lends themselves to the kind of football we briefly played. It's the complete opposite now, like when Keegan's teams lost motivation at the end of a season and the attacking football fell short.

 

While Pardew is desperate for results he's not going to change to a formation he almost definitely only remembers as the one we lost 4-0 with. His defensive minded approach doesn't want attacking football if it might lead to a big defeat.

 

I've never seen anyone exhibiting that attitude, but forgetting that, do you think Pardew should show a bit of faith in the system that brought us our best run of form and results in his entire time here? Especially considering how shit we are.

 

Do you think he should do it? I don't want to hear whether you think he will or not..

 

Also, do you think he should have started the season playing this way? Given that Cisse was still the in form striker and the way we finished last season.

[Dr Venkman]

 

Such a child

 

 

Just switching to for-free-free isn't magically going to turn them into what we had (briefly) last year.

 

This might confuse the Football Manager players but football isn't just about tactics.

[madras]

The "flick a switch and up we go" attitude is what I'm questioning. There's more to turning an entire season around than just changing a formation. We were 6th going into the West Brom game, high on confidence and well motivation which both obviously lends themselves to the kind of football we briefly played. It's the complete opposite now, like when Keegan's teams lost motivation at the end of a season and the attacking football fell short.

 

While Pardew is desperate for results he's not going to change to a formation he almost definitely only remembers as the one we lost 4-0 with. His defensive minded approach doesn't want attacking football if it might lead to a big defeat.

 

I've never seen anyone exhibiting that attitude, but forgetting that, do you think Pardew should show a bit of faith in the system that brought us our best run of form and results in his entire time here? Especially considering how s*** we are.

 

Do you think he should do it? I don't want to hear whether you think he will or not..

 

Also, do you think he should have started the season playing this way? Given that Cisse was still the in form striker and the way we finished last season.

it wasn't just the formation, unless you think that 4-3-3 inherently gives movement ?

[Shush]

Still effortlessly childish.

 

Pardew said in the summer that Ba would be through the middle for 95% of the games. Might as well get used to it.

 

Why should we when it's being proven with every passing game as the less effective way to deploy ourselves?

[madras]

Still effortlessly childish.

 

Pardew said in the summer that Ba would be through the middle for 95% of the games. Might as well get used to it.

he also said nile ranger wouldn't play for the first team as long as he (pardew) is the manager.