Demba Ba (now retired)

[AyeDubbleYoo]

 

 

No, it just means that the club 'going along with it' wasn't necessarily a bad thing. If you weren't suggesting it was then fair enough, sorry.

 

I wasn't suggesting it was bad at all, we did what we had to and got the player that we needed.  Both parties were involved in the contract negotiations and both agreed to it.

 

Cool

[JH]

Notice there has been no tweet from Demba rubbishing any of this stuff.. There has been in the past but not this time.

 

He's never rubbished stuff in a 'I'm not leaving' way. He's loving every second of this tbh.

[Skirge]

Notice there has been no tweet from Demba rubbishing any of this stuff.. There has been in the past but not this time.

 

He's never rubbished stuff in a 'I'm not leaving' way. He's loving every second of this tbh.

 

Yeah i should have used "played down" not "rubbished"

[Guest Howaythetoon]

He's not and never will be an Arsenal player. My brother in law has a season ticket there and he said to me Ba can dream on. I'd be very surprised if he ended up there. Wenger goes for players who move around, tippy tappy types, who can play in a number of positions and roles, because that's how they play. Ba would slow their attacks down and isolate their attacking play to a more central area. Arsenal are all about pockets of space and holes and they like to move the ball on quickly. Its rumoured that Wenger gets pissed off if one of his player takes more than x amount of touches on the ball or holds a position for too long.

 

I can't see him at Liverpool either because Rodgers is trying to develop a similar pass pass pass move move move type game and Ba just doesn't fit that style.

 

Anyway... I hope he stays because he's our most important player.

[ponsaelius]

He's not and never will be an Arsenal player. My brother in law has a season ticket there and he said to me Ba can dream on. I'd be very surprised if he ended up there. Wenger goes for players who move around, tippy tappy types, who can play in a number of positions and roles, because that's how they play. Ba would slow their attacks down and isolate their attacking play to a more central area. Arsenal are all about pockets of space and holes and they like to move the ball on quickly. Its rumoured that Wenger gets pissed off if one of his player takes more than x amount of touches on the ball or holds a position for too long.

 

I can't see him at Liverpool either because Rodgers is trying to develop a similar pass pass pass move move move type game and Ba just doesn't fit that style.

 

Anyway... I hope he stays because he's our most important player.

 

If that's the case then why has he bought Chamakh, and then Giroud and targeted the likes of Llorente?

 

He's basically signing exactly the opposite kind of player to what you have just said, one-paced lumpy strikers that like to play centrally and rely on service.

[Tooj]

He's not and never will be an Arsenal player. My brother in law has a season ticket there and he said to me Ba can dream on. I'd be very surprised if he ended up there. Wenger goes for players who move around, tippy tappy types, who can play in a number of positions and roles, because that's how they play. Ba would slow their attacks down and isolate their attacking play to a more central area. Arsenal are all about pockets of space and holes and they like to move the ball on quickly. Its rumoured that Wenger gets pissed off if one of his player takes more than x amount of touches on the ball or holds a position for too long.

 

I can't see him at Liverpool either because Rodgers is trying to develop a similar pass pass pass move move move type game and Ba just doesn't fit that style.

 

Anyway... I hope he stays because he's our most important player.

 

I'd say that's Coloccini but I can see where you are coming from.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

He's not and never will be an Arsenal player. My brother in law has a season ticket there and he said to me Ba can dream on. I'd be very surprised if he ended up there. Wenger goes for players who move around, tippy tappy types, who can play in a number of positions and roles, because that's how they play. Ba would slow their attacks down and isolate their attacking play to a more central area. Arsenal are all about pockets of space and holes and they like to move the ball on quickly. Its rumoured that Wenger gets p*ssed off if one of his player takes more than x amount of touches on the ball or holds a position for too long.

 

I can't see him at Liverpool either because Rodgers is trying to develop a similar pass pass pass move move move type game and Ba just doesn't fit that style.

 

Anyway... I hope he stays because he's our most important player.

 

I'd say that's Coloccini but I can see where you are coming from.

 

Oh aye, of all the players who I would least like to see leave, Colo is the man, but in terms of goals and points Ba is our key man.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

He's not and never will be an Arsenal player. My brother in law has a season ticket there and he said to me Ba can dream on. I'd be very surprised if he ended up there. Wenger goes for players who move around, tippy tappy types, who can play in a number of positions and roles, because that's how they play. Ba would slow their attacks down and isolate their attacking play to a more central area. Arsenal are all about pockets of space and holes and they like to move the ball on quickly. Its rumoured that Wenger gets p*ssed off if one of his player takes more than x amount of touches on the ball or holds a position for too long.

 

I can't see him at Liverpool either because Rodgers is trying to develop a similar pass pass pass move move move type game and Ba just doesn't fit that style.

 

Anyway... I hope he stays because he's our most important player.

 

If that's the case then why has he bought Chamakh, and then Giroud and targeted the likes of Llorente?

 

I don't know but Chamakh has never really figured and Giroud simply doesn't look like an Arsenal player. Either way, Wenger will not sign another centre-forward type like Ba.

[ponsaelius]

He's not and never will be an Arsenal player. My brother in law has a season ticket there and he said to me Ba can dream on. I'd be very surprised if he ended up there. Wenger goes for players who move around, tippy tappy types, who can play in a number of positions and roles, because that's how they play. Ba would slow their attacks down and isolate their attacking play to a more central area. Arsenal are all about pockets of space and holes and they like to move the ball on quickly. Its rumoured that Wenger gets p*ssed off if one of his player takes more than x amount of touches on the ball or holds a position for too long.

 

I can't see him at Liverpool either because Rodgers is trying to develop a similar pass pass pass move move move type game and Ba just doesn't fit that style.

 

Anyway... I hope he stays because he's our most important player.

 

If that's the case then why has he bought Chamakh, and then Giroud and targeted the likes of Llorente?

 

I don't know but Chamakh has never really figured and Giroud simply doesn't look like an Arsenal player. Either way, Wenger will not sign another centre-forward type like Ba.

 

Chamakh has never figured recently cos he's crap, but he still signed him as a first team player and started him when he first went there. He just spent £12 million on Giroud.

 

How can you come to the conclusion Wenger definitely won't sign a 'centre forward type like Ba', when he's regularly signing one-paced centre forwards that rely on service rather than quick/interchangeable position types. I wouldn't pigeonhole Ba in either category personally, but I don't understand your argument when there is recent evidence to the contrary.

[Cronky]

I think Giroud was signed with some measure of desperation. Given Arsenal's wage / financial policy, he was the best one available. Ba would come into the same category.

 

What Arsenal really need to hitch them on to the next level is a Bergkamp / Henry / Van Persie, but they can't land or keep ones of that quality any more.

[Tiresias]

I still think Giroud will prove to be good in long term, I think he's just struggled to adapt and lost some confidence. Maybe wrong club but don't think he's a bad striker

[ponsaelius]

I still think Giroud will prove to be good in long term, I think he's just struggled to adapt and lost some confidence. Maybe wrong club but don't think he's a bad striker

 

He will 'come good' in the sense he will contribute, but he's fairly limited ultimately.

[Tiresias]

Yeah maybe wrong choice for them

[Sifu]

Notice there has been no tweet from Demba rubbishing any of this stuff.. There has been in the past but not this time.

 

He's never rubbished stuff in a 'I'm not leaving' way. He's loving every second of this tbh.

 

Yeah i should have used "played down" not "rubbished"

 

I watched the video. He knows what he was saying/doing, otherwise why go through the trouble of going on TV and risking the wrath of the management the following morning?

 

He's clearly frustrated about how things are going for the club atm but to basically have a go at the club in public is not the way to go (Cabaye too btw...).

[themanupstairs]

Notice there has been no tweet from Demba rubbishing any of this stuff.. There has been in the past but not this time.

 

He's never rubbished stuff in a 'I'm not leaving' way. He's loving every second of this tbh.

 

Yeah i should have used "played down" not "rubbished"

 

I watched the video. He knows what he was saying/doing, otherwise why go through the trouble of going on TV and risking the wrath of the management the following morning?

 

He's clearly frustrated about how things are going for the club atm but to basically have a go at the club in public is not the way to go (Cabaye too btw...).

 

Cabaye had a go at the club? Or did Ba have a go at Cabaye?

[Sifu]

Notice there has been no tweet from Demba rubbishing any of this stuff.. There has been in the past but not this time.

 

He's never rubbished stuff in a 'I'm not leaving' way. He's loving every second of this tbh.

 

Yeah i should have used "played down" not "rubbished"

 

I watched the video. He knows what he was saying/doing, otherwise why go through the trouble of going on TV and risking the wrath of the management the following morning?

 

He's clearly frustrated about how things are going for the club atm but to basically have a go at the club in public is not the way to go (Cabaye too btw...).

 

Cabaye had a go at the club? Or did Ba have a go at Cabaye?

 

Cabaye basically criticised our style of play, saying it was too defensive and narrow. Basically what we're all thinking really.

[colinmk]

I think Giroud was signed with some measure of desperation. Given Arsenal's wage / financial policy, he was the best one available. Ba would come into the same category.

 

What Arsenal really need to hitch them on to the next level is a Bergkamp / Henry / Van Persie, but they can't land or keep ones of that quality any more.

 

Spot on.

[Mick]

“I didn’t see anything wrong with his interview.

 

“I don’t think any player at any football club is going to say their philosophy is the same as the manager.

 

“I didn’t when I was working with Steve Coppell (at Crystal Palace) but I still admired him and understood what he is about and learned a great deal off him.”

 

 

 

Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/12/20/demba-ba-escapes-fine-over-his-controversial-comments-72703-32464733/#ixzz2Fae0ThqW

 

You have quoted Pardew commenting on when Ben Arfa did the same thing.

[Lotus]

“I didn’t see anything wrong with his interview.

 

“I don’t think any player at any football club is going to say their philosophy is the same as the manager.

 

“I didn’t when I was working with Steve Coppell (at Crystal Palace) but I still admired him and understood what he is about and learned a great deal off him.”

 

 

 

Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/12/20/demba-ba-escapes-fine-over-his-controversial-comments-72703-32464733/#ixzz2Fae0ThqW

 

Aren't they Pards quotes in relation to the HBA interview?

[Skirge]

Newcastle United Training Session

[BottledDog]

Newcastle United Training Session

 

Wistful want-away eyes.

[Skirge]

Newcastle United Training Session

 

Wistful want-away eyes.

 

I think the hat tells its own story

[Skirge]

Newcastle United Training Session

 

Newcastle United Training Session

[BottledDog]

Alan - Newcastle United Training Session

 

Bricking it.

[Skirge]

Alan - Newcastle United Training Session

 

Bricking it.

 

Players wife turned up..... he has that look