Skirge Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 If we sign Gpmis and Ba Pardew will be in a spin he won't know what to do, who to play and where will give him nightmares until we end up with -------Cabaye-------------Sissoko Benny------Ba--------Gomis-----Remy ------------------Cisse 2-0 up and then the "no more goals" message Who'll do the defending? You can't give Pardew that many attacking players and expect a defense Exactly my point. So we lose 3-2 every game? But at least we score and look attacking for a bit? Is that your thinking? I'd take it over what it is currently. Nit my thinking but I can see Pardew just being so confused wuth si many attacking options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 So we are desperate for goals, bring in a striker who has shown he can feed off the few scraps we throw at our strikers but some want to stick him in the position he doesn't score in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 So we are desperate for goals, bring in a striker who has shown he can feed off the few scraps we through at our strikers but some want to stick him in the position he doesn't score in? A more mischevious soul than myself may even suggest that the idea is 'Pardew-esque'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Aside from any debate about how good Ba was out wide, he made it clear he didn't want to play there, and Pardew made the foolish promise to him he'd be playing 90% of the time down the middle. Bringing him back and asking or expecting him to play wide is only going to lead to trouble. Is Gomis going to be asked to play out wide if he comes? Ba is a striker and a damn good one at that. We need a striker and that's what we would be getting, after that it's up to Pardew to use the squad to it's full advantage...and I'm trying not to laugh while I'm typing here, trust me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Had a feeling we'd make a loan bid for him as a last resort when the other options had failed. Just a case of whether he'd be open to it now. No way would we buy him outright on his wages I'd imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 As a short term measure, then I'm in favour of the move. Having Ba feeding of scraps will be masking the problems that we've had for the last 2 seasons i.e. not enough chances being created for strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 This transfer window finally looks set like one to re-Demba. http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01693/martin-oneill_1693881c.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Cisse has no place in the starting 11 until he sorts his f***ing head and starts to take responsibility on the field. Been saying it since last year's pre-season. Tiote is in a similar situation. They are playing within themselves, every other decision they make on the pitch is brainless.. You can get away with this if you're a winger but if you're leading the line or you're meant to play as an anchor man such complacency is suicidal for the team. Needs dropping and re-booting. Switch it off an on again pet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Any decently run club the size of NUFC wouldn't have been in the position of scratching around trying to get a player on loan who made it transparently clear that he didn't want to be here last January. I agree. A bit embarrassing for us (and for Ba, if he were to return). Undecided about this - He's a proven goalscorer in Pardew's 'style' of football, but he wouldn't get in ahead of Remy-Cisse-HBA for me, and wouldn't come to sit on the bench. Can't see him eventually coming back permanently, either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 If he came back ... It would be Remy Ba HBA Forward 3...no point playing cisse, dont play to his strengths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Aahh, to get back to the halcyon days of 2011/12, with free flowing attacking football. A lovable, tactical genius of a manager and a gnat's clem away from champions league football. This will all happen again upon Ba's return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 More i think i would prefer Gomis and get Moses on loan rather than Ba, apparently 7 PL clubs have asked about him. really hope we are one of them. Wide forward can score goals and run, perfect for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 More i think i would prefer Gomis and get Moses on loan rather than Ba, apparently 7 PL clubs have asked about him. really hope we are one of them. Wide forward can score goals and run, perfect for us. 6 have asked about him and 1 has asked to be kept in the loop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 More i think i would prefer Gomis and get Moses on loan rather than Ba, apparently 7 PL clubs have asked about him. really hope we are one of them. Wide forward can score goals and run, perfect for us. 6 have asked about him and 1 has asked to be kept in the loop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Personally rather we looked to actually try to sign players permanently rather than loan them in, think it's alright grabbing one star loan in Remy but when you starting looking at 2 or 3 costing a couple of million each for the year, rather we looked elsewhere even if there is a slight dip in quality and had this loan option last resort...although some would argue with 1 week to go this is last resort tactics now. At this moment in time i'd just be going all out for Gomis now. We've got ourselves in another transfer window mess and it's remarkable we have actually let it come to this once again, massive shame really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Big mikes budget is getting tighter...loans maybe our only option...whats our current salary status like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 More i think i would prefer Gomis and get Moses on loan rather than Ba, apparently 7 PL clubs have asked about him. really hope we are one of them. Wide forward can score goals and run, perfect for us. At this stage I'd take any one of Gomis, Moses or Ba. What won't be acceptable is making a lot of noise about signing a striker and failing to get one through the door by deadline day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Big mikes budget is getting tighter...loans maybe our only option...whats our current salary status like? Is it just me though or do loans not seem expensive? They are alright on FM when you get a couple of squad fillers on a tight budget But now we are talking 2 million vanishing just for having a player for 1 year and chances are, if he actually turns out to have a good season, the price will probably inflate to buy if a deal hasn't already been set up with a set price, which not many seem to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 More i think i would prefer Gomis and get Moses on loan rather than Ba, apparently 7 PL clubs have asked about him. really hope we are one of them. Wide forward can score goals and run, perfect for us. At this stage I'd take any one of Gomis, Moses or Ba. What won't be acceptable is making a lot of noise about signing a striker and failing to get one through the door by deadline day. I agree with you. Just with us only able to have one from Chelsea on loan i would rather Moses. Like you say we would actually have to get them in and theres no reason why at least one of the three dont sign. Aside from us fucking about that us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Big mikes budget is getting tighter...loans maybe our only option...whats our current salary status like? They are alright on FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Big mikes budget is getting tighter...loans maybe our only option...whats our current salary status like? Is it just me though or do loans not seem expensive? They are alright on FM when you get a couple of squad fillers on a tight budget But now we are talking 2 million vanishing just for having a player for 1 year and chances are, if he actually turns out to have a good season, the price will probably inflate to buy if a deal hasn't already been set up with a set price, which not many seem to do. £2million is a drop in the ocean for every other PL team. It looks really expensive because we are refusing to spend any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Big mikes budget is getting tighter...loans maybe our only option...whats our current salary status like? They are alright on FM. 'They are alright on FM when you get a couple of squad fillers on a tight budget ' Think smiley on the end of the sentence clearly showed i was joking on, but if you wish to dissect my quotes like you do with Pardew's to twist things around, by all means carry on neesy.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 i dont mind him coming back. Specially on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Texas Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I see the Demba loan bid as a way of pressuring Aulas to stop messing around and sell Gomis to us. And at worst a stop gap until we can sign Gomis on a pre-contract (or January bid). Based on these options it's win-win for us. Of course the likely option is that Ba says no to the loan, and we don't get Gomis either now or then, so its lose-lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 So, in the end, our 2 best strikers will probably both be loan players. Couldn't make it up really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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