Hanshithispantz Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Why would he need to sit back to challenge for a 50/50? Why do most of our midfielders sit back? Why does the keeper hoof the ball long? These are all important questions. You appear to have changed the subject and presented me with some irrelevant questions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Such a bizarre player is Marveaux. At times I've seen him burn past players with pace and skill. I've seen him create goals with some fantastic pieces of vision and accuracy and yet too many times he has put in performances like that where he just goes missing or plays the game at half pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Why would he need to sit back to challenge for a 50/50? Why do most of our midfielders sit back? Why does the keeper hoof the ball long? These are all important questions. You appear to have changed the subject and presented me with some irrelevant questions Just think about how the top teams seem to avoid getting involved in physical battles. Spurs...Man U..Arsenal...Liverpool. How do they do it? What's the secret? :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 unfortunatley he doesn't do the good stuff, which he is massively capable of, anywhere near enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 He always far too deep for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I just dont think hes confident enough in himself. He's a good set piece taker, yet today our best chance on goal from a set piece & he was outgunned by Bigirimana a 19 year old to take it. Hes 27 man. Raylor would've been all over that & rightfully so. You have to know your strengths & believe in them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I thought he looked confident in that he went looking for the ball a lot but whenever he was in a pressurised situation, he generally shit himself. It's hard to know with Marv, he took a while to get going last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I just dont think hes confident enough in himself. He's a good set piece taker, yet today our best chance on goal from a set piece & he was outgunned by Bigirimana a 19 year old to take it. Hes 27 man. Raylor would've been all over that & rightfully so. You have to know your strengths & believe in them. What utter shit. Bigi took that because it was best suited for a right footer. 5 yards to the right and no doubt Marveaux would have taken it. FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Bigi has banged a few of them in during reserve games recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Why would he need to sit back to challenge for a 50/50? Why do most of our midfielders sit back? Why does the keeper hoof the ball long? These are all important questions. You appear to have changed the subject and presented me with some irrelevant questions Just think about how the top teams seem to avoid getting involved in physical battles. Spurs...Man U..Arsenal...Liverpool. How do they do it? What's the secret? :lol: Money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 i think the game over here is too intense for him. too quick, too hard. it's what mapou,debuchy and sissoko are coming to terms with and may not get there. cabaye adjusted very quickly, i think he's a one off for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 i think the game over here is too intense for him. too quick, too hard. it's what mapou,debuchy and sissoko are coming to terms with and may not get there. cabaye adjusted very quickly, i think he's a one off for that. I'll ask you the same question as earlier. Why do the better passing teams seem to have more time on the ball? I don't see Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool or Spurs getting dragged into physical battles. We spend millions yet still end up looking like Southampton under Pardew. Why is that do you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I just dont think hes confident enough in himself. He's a good set piece taker, yet today our best chance on goal from a set piece & he was outgunned by Bigirimana a 19 year old to take it. Hes 27 man. Raylor would've been all over that & rightfully so. You have to know your strengths & believe in them. What utter s***. Bigi took that because it was best suited for a right footer. 5 yards to the right and no doubt Marveaux would have taken it. FFS. You seem offended? It was barely to the left, as i say Raylor wouldnt care where it was. Marveaux is our first teams set piece taker when he actually plays the majority of the time, he should have the confidence in himself from that range. Do you think Cabaye, Barton, Solano, Raylor etc would have let a younger lad have a punt because he did well in reserve games? I doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Saying that Bigi struck it really well actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 So by challenging for 50/50s teams are being "dragged into a physical battle" now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I just dont think hes confident enough in himself. He's a good set piece taker, yet today our best chance on goal from a set piece & he was outgunned by Bigirimana a 19 year old to take it. Hes 27 man. Raylor would've been all over that & rightfully so. You have to know your strengths & believe in them. What utter s***. Bigi took that because it was best suited for a right footer. 5 yards to the right and no doubt Marveaux would have taken it. FFS. You seem offended? It was barely to the left, as i say Raylor wouldnt care where it was. Marveaux is our first teams set piece taker when he actually plays the majority of the time, he should have the confidence in himself from that range. Do you think Cabaye, Barton, Solano, Raylor etc would have let a younger lad have a punt because he did well in reserve games? I doubt it. marveaux is probabaly the set piece take for delivery when he plays but i'm not sure about shots at goal. fairly sure bigi has taken a few when the shots been on when in the europa etc. always been there or thereabouts aswell. closer than ben arfa normally gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 You're on the wind up here, aren't you TRon, you don't genuinely believe that challenging for 50/50s is some lower than Allardyce, conference bastard tactic. You had me going like, fair play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 So by challenging for 50/50s teams are being "dragged into a physical battle" now Football pitches at the top level are quite large areas mate. Only an utter twat would set up teams to challenge for 50/50s instead of exploiting that area :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I just dont think hes confident enough in himself. He's a good set piece taker, yet today our best chance on goal from a set piece & he was outgunned by Bigirimana a 19 year old to take it. Hes 27 man. Raylor would've been all over that & rightfully so. You have to know your strengths & believe in them. What utter s***. Bigi took that because it was best suited for a right footer. 5 yards to the right and no doubt Marveaux would have taken it. FFS. You seem offended? It was barely to the left, as i say Raylor wouldnt care where it was. Marveaux is our first teams set piece taker when he actually plays the majority of the time, he should have the confidence in himself from that range. Do you think Cabaye, Barton, Solano, Raylor etc would have let a younger lad have a punt because he did well in reserve games? I doubt it. marveaux is probabaly the set piece take for delivery when he plays but i'm not sure about shots at goal. fairly sure bigi has taken a few when the shots been on when in the europa etc. always been there or thereabouts aswell. closer than ben arfa normally gets. Just find it odd, perhaps Bigi is mint at them in training also. The idea of set pieces being to take a standing ball & aim for a specific area makes it a bit strange to then opt out of having shots on a goal. The mentality of it seems a bit different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I think you're making something out of nothing here like, Jayson. So fuck if Bigi took a set piece rather than Marveaux taking it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Probably overthinking it, still seems odd. He was a different player when he first joined, looked much more lively before his injuries & his touch was outstanding. Might just be a lack of game time as people have mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 He hardly ever plays so it doesn't help. I'd say it must be something that's happening in training if I had any faith in the manager, but I don't. He should have had loads more minutes last season and we'd be closer to telling the calibre of player he is. In and out of the side constantly and it just seems a waste of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Weak useless player. Granted he played 2 or 3 good passes since he has been here, but last night was another invisible man performance. It was almost as if soon as Debuchy got taken out he got scared and lost interest. The amount of times he lost the ball by turning around back to his own goal and taking too long to pass. Pardew should have took Marv off for Benny and left Goofy on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Dawg UK Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 i thought last night he was poor, like the above the game passes him by too quickly. He is clearly talented and did put in some good crosses and passes but non effective on the right last night ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Clearly a player who thrives with a managers belief in him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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