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[madras]

As long as they replace Andy Carroll and improve the squad so that we finish top half/looking to challenge for Europe I don't care how much they spend. The fact that I don't think the above is possible without spending most if not all of the Carroll money is a separate issue.

it probably will be spent, just not in up front transfer fees  like everybody wants while ignoring wages and other fees.

[Dave]

As long as they replace Andy Carroll and improve the squad so that we finish top half/looking to challenge for Europe I don't care how much they spend. The fact that I don't think the above is possible without spending most if not all of the Carroll money is a separate issue.

it probably will be spent, just not in up front transfer fees  like everybody wants while ignoring wages and other fees.

 

They can replace Andy Carroll by paying James Perch? Fucking impressive.

 

Obviously I was on about spending the money on new players, the majority of which would be in transfer fees.

[madras]

As long as they replace Andy Carroll and improve the squad so that we finish top half/looking to challenge for Europe I don't care how much they spend. The fact that I don't think the above is possible without spending most if not all of the Carroll money is a separate issue.

it probably will be spent, just not in up front transfer fees  like everybody wants while ignoring wages and other fees.

 

They can replace Andy Carroll by paying James Perch? f***ing impressive.

or demba ba or hopefully use it to improve the starting XI all over not just a straight replacement. if we were breaking even this season before the carroll sale then the carroll money would hopefully be going on improving the team.

[Stu]

As long as they replace Andy Carroll and improve the squad so that we finish top half/looking to challenge for Europe I don't care how much they spend. The fact that I don't think the above is possible without spending most if not all of the Carroll money on transfer fees is a separate issue.

 

So if the squad ends up improved, but we've spent all of the Carroll money, you have an issue with that?

[Wullie]

How come all the other clubs who have received large transfer fees recently haven't done the same? How come Liverpool, Villa, Spurs and now Sunderland didn't go for frees and hunt for cheap release clauses? Is Darren Bent playing for free?

[AlanSkÃrare]

How come all the other clubs who have received large transfer fees recently haven't done the same? How come Liverpool, Villa, Spurs and now Sunderland didn't go for frees and hunt for cheap release clauses? Is Darren Bent playing for free?

 

Good point.

[Guest]

How come all the other clubs who have received large transfer fees recently haven't done the same? How come Liverpool, Villa, Spurs and now Sunderland didn't go for frees and hunt for cheap release clauses? Is Darren Bent playing for free?

 

Sunderland have signed a freebie, a player who was relegated last season, and their "big signing" is a kid to replace their main man. Would you have been happy to have spent £12m on Wickham?

[thomas]

Why do I care how Sunderland, Liverpool or Villa conduct their transfer business opposed to us?  Wow they paid a large sum for average dross, I sure am jealous.  Wish we would splash out 15m on Gibson.  That'd show everyone we mean business. 

[Guest]

Also Liverpool tried getting our freebie and didn't Cabaye say they wanted him too?

[Wullie]

Darren Bent is average dross? Andy Carroll and Luis Suarez are?

 

Looney tunes. It matters because they are our competitors, which is fairly obvious. It matters if they're strengthening on a basis of quality, while we do so based on who is cheap and available.

[Dave]

Why do I care how Sunderland, Liverpool or Villa conduct their transfer business opposed to us?  Wow they paid a large sum for average dross, I sure am jealous.  Wish we would splash out 15m on Gibson.  That'd show everyone we mean business.  

 

Surely the point was more aimed at the concept that transfer monies in aren't ringfenced for spending on new transfers and simply disappear into the club, rather than the quality of the players signed by those clubs who apparently do allocate it for spending.

 

The clubs mentioned have used their transfer income from selling players to buy players, spending most if not all of the same money in the process. Why are we different?

[taxfree]

Why do I care how Sunderland, Liverpool or Villa conduct their transfer business opposed to us?  Wow they paid a large sum for average dross, I sure am jealous.  Wish we would splash out 15m on Gibson.  That'd show everyone we mean business.  

 

[madras]

How come all the other clubs who have received large transfer fees recently haven't done the same? How come Liverpool, Villa, Spurs and now Sunderland didn't go for frees and hunt for cheap release clauses? Is Darren Bent playing for free?

because they have owners who want to keep on throwing money at it. i feel a bit uneasy about crying for more when he's already shelled out over 100mill on top of the purchase price, and yes he did bring some of it on himself but we were sliding backwards fast when he came in. do you think lerner and short will keep on throwing money at it ?

[AlanSkÃrare]

Getting what you actually want costs money. We mustn't settle for what's available on the cheap just because we're holding back. The club needs a striker that can fill Carroll's boots. Demba Ba is a terrific complement and a good striker, but someone like Sturridge is needed if we are to kick on and maintain the same kind of quality up front.

[Guest]

Darren Bent is average dross? Andy Carroll and Luis Suarez are?

 

Looney tunes. It matters because they are our competitors, which is fairly obvious. It matters if they're strengthening on a basis of quality, while we do so based on who is cheap and available.

 

It's June 29th.

 

Calm down man. Villa have been established in the top 8 for the last 3-4 years up until last year, and there's no chance Darren Bent would have came here so that's moot.

 

No way Suarez would join a club like us, Carroll was mental money and cost probably double his market value, as did Henderson. Sunderland have replaced their star with a kid who could go either way.

 

Bent & Suarez apart, I'd sooner go down the Ba, Cabaye & Marveaux path than Henderson, Wickham & Carroll. Plus there's two months to go and I'm confident money will be spent in that time.

[Wullie]

Madras, what are you on about owners 'throwing money at it'? We're talking about the money we got for Carroll. 

[Cajun]

How much of the Bent money has been recouped by the sale of Young by the way? Given we are talking about these clubs ambitions based on current spending?

[Taylor Swift]

Carroll is way overrated, man.

 

Ill judge them at the end of the window but the Carroll transfer was a laugher. He's never a CL player. His style just doesnt fit in with a team that wants to play the ball on the ground. We made bank by selling him and hopefully we can improve multiple positions by spending that money + improve the cohesiveness of our play as well.

 

For what it's worth, I wouldn't take Carroll back at half the price today. He's just not worth it to a team who wants to play the ball on the ground. He won't last at Liverpool. He'll score goals in his career but not at Liverpool.

[Wullie]

Nut we should be going all out to get Sturridge and N'Zogbia, proven quality in this league, and before pre season preferably.

[thomas]

Why do I care how Sunderland, Liverpool or Villa conduct their transfer business opposed to us?  Wow they paid a large sum for average dross, I sure am jealous.  Wish we would splash out 15m on Gibson.  That'd show everyone we mean business.  

 

Surely the point was more aimed at the concept that transfer monies in aren't ringfenced for spending on new transfers and simply disappear into the club, rather than the quality of the players signed by those clubs who apparently do allocate it for spending.

 

The clubs mentioned have used their transfer income from selling players to buy players, spending most if not all of the same money in the process. Why are we different?

Why are they all the same?  Just as answerable  

 

We just don't appear to be operating on a model where transfer revenue is kept on its own ledger for future transfers.  Is it part of some master self-sufficiency plan?  Is it suicidal?  both?  probably?  

 

edit: Totally agree on Sturridge btw - 15m for him is a no-brainer.  Slightly more pensive about the Zog. 

[madras]

Madras, what are you on about owners 'throwing money at it'? We're talking about the money we got for Carroll. 

and all you are talking about is transfer fees as if thats the be all and end all. i'm saying that in my opinion it will be reinvested in the playing side but not necessarily 35mill in transfer fees.

[ponsaelius]

How come all the other clubs who have received large transfer fees recently haven't done the same? How come Liverpool, Villa, Spurs and now Sunderland didn't go for frees and hunt for cheap release clauses? Is Darren Bent playing for free?

 

Sunderland have signed a freebie, a player who was relegated last season, and their "big signing" is a kid to replace their main man. Would you have been happy to have spent £12m on Wickham?

 

2 actually.

[Hughesy]

Most of those clubs named don't actually have a huge net spend at the moment.  Arguably Liverpool will by the end of the transfer window.

[Guest]

Nut we should be going all out to get Sturridge and N'Zogbia, proven quality in this league, and before pre season preferably.

 

I think we will go all out for N'Zogbia, not sure if we need to panic on that one just yet because it's not as if he'll need time to adjust to the surroundings, etc. Sturridge depends on the fee but if the price is right, go for him, but again, can't see him going until the new manager has a proper look at him first.

[gdm]

Why do people keep mentioning It's June like it means something. We will keep on missing out on players like Sturridge and N'Zogbia coz we are not willing to spend money, not because of the fact we are in June