ponsaelius Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 2 months is more than enough. Compact the time and the deals get done quicker, rather than less deals being done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 2 months is more than enough. Compact the time and the deals get done quicker, rather than less deals being done. At the moment, if you consider the fact deals start going through mid May, right upto August 31st, I don't see how it would be right to reduce a player's right to leave one job and start another from 4 and a half months a year (inc January), to just 3 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I don't see why not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 It is what it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I don't see why not. Because players in say, the English league & French league would be at an advantage because their season would be finished 3 weeks before the Spanish one, so would be free to move clubs, etc. whereas players in La Liga would be stuck until the end of May. I know deals couldn't officially go through until later but the players in those leagues which finish earlier will have more time to go and negotiate contracts, etc. on holiday than those still playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Still think the problems of the transfer window overlapping the season outweigh that issue. It is ridiculous that you can go into a season still haggling for players, trying to get a settled side and still being worried about who might come in for your players. IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Nut we should be going all out to get Sturridge and N'Zogbia, proven quality in this league, and before pre season preferably. Aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Personally I believe we should get any major signings (if we make any) in before the start of the season, which is six weeks away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Personally I believe we should get any major signings (if we make any) in before the start of the season, which is six weeks away. You don't class Yohan Cabaye as a major signing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Not seen him play and know nothing of his quality, but as things stand he's the replacement for our club captain and top scorer. He cost around the same money, so there's not much of a financial outlay. So no, I couldn't say he was a major signing for squad improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Still think the problems of the transfer window overlapping the season outweigh that issue. It is ridiculous that you can go into a season still haggling for players, trying to get a settled side and still being worried about who might come in for your players. IMO Totally agree, if there was such an issue with restraint of trade or freedom of movement there wouldn't be a transfer window at all. If there's going to be one, it should shut before the season starts. (IMO) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 That's like saying Ginola wasn't a great signing of squad improvement because he was unproven in England and didn't cost significantly more than replacing Sellars who left not long after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 KO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 That's like saying Ginola wasn't a great signing of squad improvement because he was unproven in England and didn't cost significantly more than replacing Sellars who left not long after. Ginola was a great signing, we don't know how Cabaye is going to do. If he'd (Ginola) flopped then he would have been a poor signing and wouldn't have improved the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Not seen him play and know nothing of his quality, but as things stand he's the replacement for our club captain and top scorer. He cost around the same money, so there's not much of a financial outlay. So no, I couldn't say he was a major signing for squad improvement. I guess it depends on your definition of a major signing (personally I don't think finance comes into it) , but signing a current French International, who has just been a key part of a team that has done a domestic double in France and has a great reputation is a pretty major signing on paper in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Not seen him play and know nothing of his quality, but as things stand he's the replacement for our club captain and top scorer. He cost around the same money, so there's not much of a financial outlay. So no, I couldn't say he was a major signing for squad improvement. I guess it depends on your definition of a major signing (personally I don't think finance comes into it) , but signing a current French International, who has just been a key part of a team that has done a domestic double in France and has a great reputation is a pretty major signing on paper in my opinion. Fair enough, as I said I don't know the player so I can't judge. What I do know is what Nolan contributed, and he's gone. If Cabaye provides the same then I'm sure everyone will think he's better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Not seen him play and know nothing of his quality, but as things stand he's the replacement for our club captain and top scorer. He cost around the same money, so there's not much of a financial outlay. So no, I couldn't say he was a major signing for squad improvement. I guess it depends on your definition of a major signing (personally I don't think finance comes into it) , but signing a current French International, who has just been a key part of a team that has done a domestic double in France and has a great reputation is a pretty major signing on paper in my opinion. Fair enough, as I said I don't know the player so I can't judge. What I do know is what Nolan contributed, and he's gone. If Cabaye provides the same then I'm sure everyone will think he's better. The first thing that comes to mind about the whole Cabaye debate thing here is that Afonso Alves who went to Boro a couple of years ago. Dutch top scorer, runner up in the European golden boot etc, went to Boro for £12m, labelled a master stroke and all that shit and was by and large, in the end, a total heap of shite I suppose. Got a good feeling about Cabaye though, be interesting to see his stats at the end of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 IMO I think there's a pretty good argument for just getting rid of the transfer windows. Perhaps just implement a single "transfer deadline" midway into the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Not seen him play and know nothing of his quality, but as things stand he's the replacement for our club captain and top scorer. He cost around the same money, so there's not much of a financial outlay. So no, I couldn't say he was a major signing for squad improvement. I guess it depends on your definition of a major signing (personally I don't think finance comes into it) , but signing a current French International, who has just been a key part of a team that has done a domestic double in France and has a great reputation is a pretty major signing on paper in my opinion. Fair enough, as I said I don't know the player so I can't judge. What I do know is what Nolan contributed, and he's gone. If Cabaye provides the same then I'm sure everyone will think he's better. If he could score anywhere near as many goals as Nolan without being an immobile lump then he'd be a big improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest magpie99 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 There are no similarities between Nolan and Cabaye. They are totally different players: Nolan - immobile, one paced, and can only play in one position, in the hole behind a target man Cabaye - Box to box, can pass, can shoot, can score, quicker, yopunger, fitter and a current french international. For the money, I guess we got the better end of the deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 IMO I think there's a pretty good argument for just getting rid of the transfer windows. Perhaps just implement a single "transfer deadline" midway into the season. That's how it used to be, but I'd hate the idea of every week up until the end of March again players being linked away and coming in, etc. At least here it's more settled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 IMO I think there's a pretty good argument for just getting rid of the transfer windows. Perhaps just implement a single "transfer deadline" midway into the season. That's how it used to be, but I'd hate the idea of every week up until the end of March again players being linked away and coming in, etc. At least here it's more settled. Yeah, at least now the endless speculation and total bollocks is concentrated into a couple of months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Not seen him play and know nothing of his quality, but as things stand he's the replacement for our club captain and top scorer. He cost around the same money, so there's not much of a financial outlay. So no, I couldn't say he was a major signing for squad improvement. I guess it depends on your definition of a major signing (personally I don't think finance comes into it) , but signing a current French International, who has just been a key part of a team that has done a domestic double in France and has a great reputation is a pretty major signing on paper in my opinion. Fair enough, as I said I don't know the player so I can't judge. What I do know is what Nolan contributed, and he's gone. If Cabaye provides the same then I'm sure everyone will think he's better. The first thing that comes to mind about the whole Cabaye debate thing here is that Afonso Alves who went to Boro a couple of years ago. Dutch top scorer, runner up in the European golden boot etc, went to Boro for £12m, labelled a master stroke and all that shit and was by and large, in the end, a total heap of shite I suppose. Got a good feeling about Cabaye though, be interesting to see his stats at the end of the season Why choose that example though? There are loads of players who have come in and done well - how is Cabaye anything like Alves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Not seen him play and know nothing of his quality, but as things stand he's the replacement for our club captain and top scorer. He cost around the same money, so there's not much of a financial outlay. So no, I couldn't say he was a major signing for squad improvement. I guess it depends on your definition of a major signing (personally I don't think finance comes into it) , but signing a current French International, who has just been a key part of a team that has done a domestic double in France and has a great reputation is a pretty major signing on paper in my opinion. Fair enough, as I said I don't know the player so I can't judge. What I do know is what Nolan contributed, and he's gone. If Cabaye provides the same then I'm sure everyone will think he's better. The first thing that comes to mind about the whole Cabaye debate thing here is that Afonso Alves who went to Boro a couple of years ago. Dutch top scorer, runner up in the European golden boot etc, went to Boro for £12m, labelled a master stroke and all that s*** and was by and large, in the end, a total heap of s**** I suppose. Got a good feeling about Cabaye though, be interesting to see his stats at the end of the season Why choose that example though? There are loads of players who have come in and done well - how is Cabaye anything like Alves? Debating about 'major signings' and if Cabaye can surpass what Nolan has done for us last season. Just a comparison between circumstances of achieving great things abroad and then flopping in the Prem. Its a possibility. Said I have a good feeling about Cabaye though and I still stand by that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 There are no similarities between Nolan and Cabaye. They are totally different players: Nolan - immobile, one paced, and can only play in one position, in the hole behind a target man Cabaye - Box to box, can pass, can shoot, can score, quicker, yopunger, fitter and a current french international. For the money, I guess we got the better end of the deal. Nolan was far better in midfield than as a advanced player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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