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It is the same rule that prevented us from going to the World Cup on 2006. The rule is terrible, but it has been in place for some time now.

 

How is it a terrible rule?

I just dislike it. It doesn't reward your cumulative efforts over the group stages like goal difference does. I don't feel sympathy for us in 2006 or South Africa now, though. They've been set against inferior teams and have failed because of their own underperformance, disorganisation, and infighting.

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It is the same rule that prevented us from going to the World Cup on 2006. The rule is terrible, but it has been in place for some time now.

 

How is it a terrible rule?

I just dislike it. It doesn't reward your cumulative efforts over the group stages like goal difference does. I don't feel sympathy for us in 2006 or South Africa now, though. They've been set against inferior teams and have failed because of their own underperformance, disorganisation, and infighting.

 

To be honest, I think the head-to-head rule makes a lot of sense in these kind of group stages with wildly uneven opposition, where qualification shouldn't hinge on who put more past Liechtestein or Andorra.

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It is the same rule that prevented us from going to the World Cup on 2006. The rule is terrible, but it has been in place for some time now.

 

How is it a terrible rule?

I just dislike it. It doesn't reward your cumulative efforts over the group stages like goal difference does. I don't feel sympathy for us in 2006 or South Africa now, though. They've been set against inferior teams and have failed because of their own underperformance, disorganisation, and infighting.

 

To be honest, I think the head-to-head rule makes a lot of sense in these kind of group stages with wildly uneven opposition, where qualification shouldn't hinge on who put more past Liechtestein or Andorra.

 

Indeed. Just look at the general logic on going by goal difference. One team could get knocked out by goal difference to another, despite beating that team once or twice. Just based on that it doesn't make sense to do it otherwise. It has helped the US though, when they got through in the Confederations Cup despite losing to Italy.

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A really lovely nigh with a lot of good football and drama in basically every group, will be hard to chose games to watch.

 

Group A;

 

1 Germany      9  9  0  0  31-6  27

2 Belgium        9  4  3  2  20-12  15

3 Turkey        9  4  2  3  12-11  14

 

18.00 Turkey  - Azerbaijani         

18.00 Germany  - Belgium 

 

Group B;

 

1 Russia      9  6  2  1  11-4  20

2 Ireland          9  5  3  1  13-6  18

3 Armenia      9  5  2  2  21-8  17

 

18.45 Russia  - Andorra             

18.45 Ireland    - Armenia

 

Group C;

 

1 Italy        9  7  2  0  17-2  23

2 Estonia      10  5  1  4  15-14  16

3 Serbia        9  4  3  2  13-11  15

 

19.45 Slovenia - Serbia 

 

Group d;

 

1 France      9  6  2  1  14-3  20

2 Bosnia  9  6  1  2  16-7  19

 

20.00 France - Bosnia

 

Group e;

 

1 Holland        9  9  0  0  35-5  27

2 Sweden        9  7  0  2  28-9  21

 

19.15 Sweden- Holland

 

If Sweden wins they will be the best second team and qualify for EC.

 

Group f;

 

1 Greece      9  6  3  0  12-4  21

2 Croatia      9  6  1  2  16-7  19

 

18.00 Croatia  - Latvia

18.00 Georgia  - Greece

 

Group h;

 

1 Portugal      7  5  1  1  20-10  16

2 Denmark        7  5  1  1  13-5  16

 

19.15 Denmark  - Portugal

 

Group I;

 

1 Spain        7  7  0  0  23-5  21

2 Scotland      7  3  2  2  8-7  11

3 Czech republic 7  3  1  3  8-7  10

 

19.45 Spain  - Scotland           

19.45 lithuania  - Czech republic 

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1 Germany      10  10  0  0  32-6  30

2 Belgium        10  4  3  3  20-13  15

3 Turkey        10  4  3  3  12-11  15

 

18.00 Turkey  - Azerbaijan 0-0         

18.00 Germany  - Belgium 1-0 

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I reckon Germany are going to win their group.

 

It'll be a close one.

 

Quality side Germany. Everything they have done over the past 5 years has been spot on. Developing youth through the national team, appointing a coach who served his apprenticeship in the system. The Bundesliga is reaping the rewards of a well organised federation with good crowds, attacking football and an evenly matched league.

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Armenian goalkeeper gets redcard wrongly after Cox controls the ball with his arm and then shoot its on the keepers chest outside the box.

 

I guess what goes around comes around luckily for Ireland.

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