Fabricio Coloccini (now retired)

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I do think there's a major problem with the media trying to predict the news, probably because they want to be first with the scoop in this 24 hour news world. It would be nice if they'd wait for the event to actually happen instead of all these 'looks set to...' articles.

[Skirge]

Hmmmm body langues suggests anger

 

[Guest Craig-NUFC]

George Caulkin ‏@CaulkinTheTimes

A blog on what's going on with Fabricio Coloccini, Alan Pardew and #Nufc will be free to read for an hour at some stage today.

 

1. Fabricio Coloccini The saga of the day. And the background is this. For quite a long time, the centre-half has been troubled by issues in his personal life. This being Newcastle, there are unsubstantiated rumours in circulation – which is not uncommon – but he has told the club that his discontent is connected to his wife being unwell, unhappy and matters related to do with that. He has a young family.

 

As a consequence, Coloccini has informed Newcastle that he wishes to leave this month. Simultaneously, San Lorenzo, an Argentinian club that the defender played for, briefly, and for whom Osvaldo, his father, now works for, have conducted a very public courtship of him.

 

They have spoken openly about not being able to afford a fee for Coloccini, but that they could pay him a decent wage if Newcastle rescinded his contract.

 

Rescinding contracts is not the Newcastle model for doing business; it is about self-sufficiency. Coloccini only signed a new four-year extension in March (if his issues stretch back before that, as is believed, why did he do that?), and, at 31, he remains an asset.

 

On the open market, he would be worth a chunk of money and Mike Ashley and Derek Llambias are simply not prepared to write that off. Why should they?

 

In private, Pardew has been hugely supportive of Coloccini, urging him not to throw his career away, to remain on Tyneside until the end of the season, assist his team-mates in avoiding relegation and then reassess his options. The club, meanwhile, have brought in their lawyers to explain the contractual situation, to demonstrate he cannot simply walk. And yet he still wants to go.

 

Amid all this, San Lorenzo have made no direct contact with Newcastle. None whatsoever. So when they announced on Wednesday that after “long negotiations” they had not been able to secure Coloccini’s signature and were now moving on, it is reasonable to ask who, precisely, those long negotiations have been with. It is fair to say that Newcastle are not impressed by their behaviour.

 

So where do things stand now? On a knife-edge. Or a precipice. Or some other cliché. It remains extremely delicate. Coloccini has reported for training today, but whether he will be available, still here or in a suitable frame of mind for Newcastle’s critical match at Aston Villa next week is, at the time of writing, difficult to predict. And that, of course, would be another concern.

 

Having just signed a desperately-required centre-half in Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Newcastle and Pardew would find themselves back to square one, because they insist that they have not been preparing for Coloccini’s departure. If he goes AWOL, they will pursue the matter as far as it can be pursued. The options, therefore, are he leaves and they chase him legally, he buys out his contract, or he stays.

[Unbelievable]

What a fucking mess

[JUICE690]

Coloccini attends training at arsenal. Is how I read the thread title.

[KDT]

Can someone link to the Caulkin blog please.

[ponsaelius]

[ponsaelius]

Nixon saying SL have signed that Mauro Cetto on a two year deal.

[Skeletor]

Nixon saying SL have signed that Mauro Cetto on a two year deal.

 

Did they pay for him?

[Guest bimpy474]

Can someone link to the Caulkin blog please.

 

I dont think you can mate, it's a behind the The Times paywall if i'm not mistaken.

 

Person who posted that probably copied and pasted to us because they pay for The Times.

[KDT]

Ahh right I thought it must be free for the hour now.

[BottledDog]

George Caulkin ‏@CaulkinTheTimes

A blog on what's going on with Fabricio Coloccini, Alan Pardew and #Nufc will be free to read for an hour at some stage today.

 

1. Fabricio Coloccini The saga of the day. And the background is this. For quite a long time, the centre-half has been troubled by issues in his personal life. This being Newcastle, there are unsubstantiated rumours in circulation – which is not uncommon – but he has told the club that his discontent is connected to his wife being unwell, unhappy and matters related to do with that. He has a young family.

 

As a consequence, Coloccini has informed Newcastle that he wishes to leave this month. Simultaneously, San Lorenzo, an Argentinian club that the defender played for, briefly, and for whom Osvaldo, his father, now works for, have conducted a very public courtship of him.

 

They have spoken openly about not being able to afford a fee for Coloccini, but that they could pay him a decent wage if Newcastle rescinded his contract.

 

Rescinding contracts is not the Newcastle model for doing business; it is about self-sufficiency. Coloccini only signed a new four-year extension in March (if his issues stretch back before that, as is believed, why did he do that?), and, at 31, he remains an asset.

 

On the open market, he would be worth a chunk of money and Mike Ashley and Derek Llambias are simply not prepared to write that off. Why should they?

 

In private, Pardew has been hugely supportive of Coloccini, urging him not to throw his career away, to remain on Tyneside until the end of the season, assist his team-mates in avoiding relegation and then reassess his options. The club, meanwhile, have brought in their lawyers to explain the contractual situation, to demonstrate he cannot simply walk. And yet he still wants to go.

 

Amid all this, San Lorenzo have made no direct contact with Newcastle. None whatsoever. So when they announced on Wednesday that after “long negotiations” they had not been able to secure Coloccini’s signature and were now moving on, it is reasonable to ask who, precisely, those long negotiations have been with. It is fair to say that Newcastle are not impressed by their behaviour.

 

So where do things stand now? On a knife-edge. Or a precipice. Or some other cliché. It remains extremely delicate. Coloccini has reported for training today, but whether he will be available, still here or in a suitable frame of mind for Newcastle’s critical match at Aston Villa next week is, at the time of writing, difficult to predict. And that, of course, would be another concern.

 

Having just signed a desperately-required centre-half in Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Newcastle and Pardew would find themselves back to square one, because they insist that they have not been preparing for Coloccini’s departure. If he goes AWOL, they will pursue the matter as far as it can be pursued. The options, therefore, are he leaves and they chase him legally, he buys out his contract, or he stays.

 

Depressing stuff. Everyone will end up looking like dicks if he just fucks off and we have to start legal proceedings againt an ex club captain.

 

Hope Pardew can help get his head straight. I've a lot of belief that he's one of the few people who could.

[Guest bimpy474]

Ahh right I thought it must be free for the hour now.

 

Dunno actually, i would think not but you never know.

[Guest icemanblue]

Ahh right I thought it must be free for the hour now.

 

Dunno actually, i would think not but you never know.

 

It was free for an hour, an hour ago. They do it quite regularly with their sports writers.

[Guest Craig-NUFC]

Article is still free for the next half hour.

http://blogs.thetimes.co.uk/section/the-game/96757/nothing-is-black-and-white-in-the-mad-world-of-newcastle-united/?shareToken=5a73c2698922fc223c336d9ca6cf602e

[NG32]

George Caulkin ‏@CaulkinTheTimes

A blog on what's going on with Fabricio Coloccini, Alan Pardew and #Nufc will be free to read for an hour at some stage today.

 

1. Fabricio Coloccini The saga of the day. And the background is this. For quite a long time, the centre-half has been troubled by issues in his personal life. This being Newcastle, there are unsubstantiated rumours in circulation – which is not uncommon – but he has told the club that his discontent is connected to his wife being unwell, unhappy and matters related to do with that. He has a young family.

 

As a consequence, Coloccini has informed Newcastle that he wishes to leave this month. Simultaneously, San Lorenzo, an Argentinian club that the defender played for, briefly, and for whom Osvaldo, his father, now works for, have conducted a very public courtship of him.

 

They have spoken openly about not being able to afford a fee for Coloccini, but that they could pay him a decent wage if Newcastle rescinded his contract.

 

Rescinding contracts is not the Newcastle model for doing business; it is about self-sufficiency. Coloccini only signed a new four-year extension in March (if his issues stretch back before that, as is believed, why did he do that?), and, at 31, he remains an asset.

 

On the open market, he would be worth a chunk of money and Mike Ashley and Derek Llambias are simply not prepared to write that off. Why should they?

 

In private, Pardew has been hugely supportive of Coloccini, urging him not to throw his career away, to remain on Tyneside until the end of the season, assist his team-mates in avoiding relegation and then reassess his options. The club, meanwhile, have brought in their lawyers to explain the contractual situation, to demonstrate he cannot simply walk. And yet he still wants to go.

 

Amid all this, San Lorenzo have made no direct contact with Newcastle. None whatsoever. So when they announced on Wednesday that after “long negotiations” they had not been able to secure Coloccini’s signature and were now moving on, it is reasonable to ask who, precisely, those long negotiations have been with. It is fair to say that Newcastle are not impressed by their behaviour.

 

So where do things stand now? On a knife-edge. Or a precipice. Or some other cliché. It remains extremely delicate. Coloccini has reported for training today, but whether he will be available, still here or in a suitable frame of mind for Newcastle’s critical match at Aston Villa next week is, at the time of writing, difficult to predict. And that, of course, would be another concern.

 

Having just signed a desperately-required centre-half in Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Newcastle and Pardew would find themselves back to square one, because they insist that they have not been preparing for Coloccini’s departure. If he goes AWOL, they will pursue the matter as far as it can be pursued. The options, therefore, are he leaves and they chase him legally, he buys out his contract, or he stays.

 

Depressing stuff. Everyone will end up looking like dicks if he just f***s off and we have to start legal proceedings againt an ex club captain.

 

Hope Pardew can help get his head straight. I've a lot of belief that he's one of the few people who could.

?

 

 

If he does walk, he is in breach of his contract, are we then entitled to cancel/block his wages ?

[Deuce]

Almost don't even care anymore.

[leffe186]

George Caulkin ‏@CaulkinTheTimes

A blog on what's going on with Fabricio Coloccini, Alan Pardew and #Nufc will be free to read for an hour at some stage today.

 

1. Fabricio Coloccini The saga of the day. And the background is this. For quite a long time, the centre-half has been troubled by issues in his personal life. This being Newcastle, there are unsubstantiated rumours in circulation – which is not uncommon – but he has told the club that his discontent is connected to his wife being unwell, unhappy and matters related to do with that. He has a young family.

 

As a consequence, Coloccini has informed Newcastle that he wishes to leave this month. Simultaneously, San Lorenzo, an Argentinian club that the defender played for, briefly, and for whom Osvaldo, his father, now works for, have conducted a very public courtship of him.

 

They have spoken openly about not being able to afford a fee for Coloccini, but that they could pay him a decent wage if Newcastle rescinded his contract.

 

Rescinding contracts is not the Newcastle model for doing business; it is about self-sufficiency. Coloccini only signed a new four-year extension in March (if his issues stretch back before that, as is believed, why did he do that?), and, at 31, he remains an asset.

 

On the open market, he would be worth a chunk of money and Mike Ashley and Derek Llambias are simply not prepared to write that off. Why should they?

 

In private, Pardew has been hugely supportive of Coloccini, urging him not to throw his career away, to remain on Tyneside until the end of the season, assist his team-mates in avoiding relegation and then reassess his options. The club, meanwhile, have brought in their lawyers to explain the contractual situation, to demonstrate he cannot simply walk. And yet he still wants to go.

 

Amid all this, San Lorenzo have made no direct contact with Newcastle. None whatsoever. So when they announced on Wednesday that after “long negotiations” they had not been able to secure Coloccini’s signature and were now moving on, it is reasonable to ask who, precisely, those long negotiations have been with. It is fair to say that Newcastle are not impressed by their behaviour.

 

So where do things stand now? On a knife-edge. Or a precipice. Or some other cliché. It remains extremely delicate. Coloccini has reported for training today, but whether he will be available, still here or in a suitable frame of mind for Newcastle’s critical match at Aston Villa next week is, at the time of writing, difficult to predict. And that, of course, would be another concern.

 

Having just signed a desperately-required centre-half in Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Newcastle and Pardew would find themselves back to square one, because they insist that they have not been preparing for Coloccini’s departure. If he goes AWOL, they will pursue the matter as far as it can be pursued. The options, therefore, are he leaves and they chase him legally, he buys out his contract, or he stays.

 

Depressing stuff. Everyone will end up looking like dicks if he just f***s off and we have to start legal proceedings againt an ex club captain.

 

Hope Pardew can help get his head straight. I've a lot of belief that he's one of the few people who could.

?

 

 

If he does walk, he is in breach of his contract, are we then entitled to cancel/block his wages ?

 

Of course. In addition, you would retain his registration, so he would be unable to play for anyone else until his contract period was up. It might be that a couple of years down the line he could pay you a sum of money to get hold of his registration, but that's certainly not going to happen right now.

[taxfree]

Ed Malyon (Daily Mirror)

@Eaamalyon (15 hours ago)

 

Had an inkling this would happen with Coloccini. Nothing like Tevez situation, the guy has actual problems to deal with bigger than football

 

I completely appreciate Newcastle's point of view but the guy's head is completely gone.

 

yes media have agreed not to report it as the details not relevant RT @PutItInTheMixer: @eaamalyon does anyone know what these problems are?

 

 

 

 

[Belfast Boy]

Hopefully it is a case of problems at home that alot of people come up with and can, with time, be worked with. I am thinking that these problems, combined with a shit season playing alongside Williamson and Simpson, has just been a bit too much for him. He hasn't walked yet, and today he is taking full part in training alongside Debuchy and MYM hopefully. Lets be honest, we were all getting a lot pissed of ourselves about a week ago and maybe, just maybe, an upturn in fortunes at work for him will lead to him being able to sort any problems at home.

[NG32]

Ahh crap.

 

Let him go, try and sign someone else.

 

 

[BottledDog]

George Caulkin ‏@CaulkinTheTimes

A blog on what's going on with Fabricio Coloccini, Alan Pardew and #Nufc will be free to read for an hour at some stage today.

 

1. Fabricio Coloccini The saga of the day. And the background is this. For quite a long time, the centre-half has been troubled by issues in his personal life. This being Newcastle, there are unsubstantiated rumours in circulation – which is not uncommon – but he has told the club that his discontent is connected to his wife being unwell, unhappy and matters related to do with that. He has a young family.

 

As a consequence, Coloccini has informed Newcastle that he wishes to leave this month. Simultaneously, San Lorenzo, an Argentinian club that the defender played for, briefly, and for whom Osvaldo, his father, now works for, have conducted a very public courtship of him.

 

They have spoken openly about not being able to afford a fee for Coloccini, but that they could pay him a decent wage if Newcastle rescinded his contract.

 

Rescinding contracts is not the Newcastle model for doing business; it is about self-sufficiency. Coloccini only signed a new four-year extension in March (if his issues stretch back before that, as is believed, why did he do that?), and, at 31, he remains an asset.

 

On the open market, he would be worth a chunk of money and Mike Ashley and Derek Llambias are simply not prepared to write that off. Why should they?

 

In private, Pardew has been hugely supportive of Coloccini, urging him not to throw his career away, to remain on Tyneside until the end of the season, assist his team-mates in avoiding relegation and then reassess his options. The club, meanwhile, have brought in their lawyers to explain the contractual situation, to demonstrate he cannot simply walk. And yet he still wants to go.

 

Amid all this, San Lorenzo have made no direct contact with Newcastle. None whatsoever. So when they announced on Wednesday that after “long negotiations” they had not been able to secure Coloccini’s signature and were now moving on, it is reasonable to ask who, precisely, those long negotiations have been with. It is fair to say that Newcastle are not impressed by their behaviour.

 

So where do things stand now? On a knife-edge. Or a precipice. Or some other cliché. It remains extremely delicate. Coloccini has reported for training today, but whether he will be available, still here or in a suitable frame of mind for Newcastle’s critical match at Aston Villa next week is, at the time of writing, difficult to predict. And that, of course, would be another concern.

 

Having just signed a desperately-required centre-half in Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Newcastle and Pardew would find themselves back to square one, because they insist that they have not been preparing for Coloccini’s departure. If he goes AWOL, they will pursue the matter as far as it can be pursued. The options, therefore, are he leaves and they chase him legally, he buys out his contract, or he stays.

 

Depressing stuff. Everyone will end up looking like dicks if he just f***s off and we have to start legal proceedings againt an ex club captain.

 

Hope Pardew can help get his head straight. I've a lot of belief that he's one of the few people who could.

?

 

 

If he does walk, he is in breach of his contract, are we then entitled to cancel/block his wages ?

 

I'd have thought we could fine him heavily as well, but depending on the nature of his issues it might mean a pretty ugly ending. About as far as 'elegant'* as you could get.

 

 

*actually since the 'elegant' thing came from his dad, I guess we can discount that as bollocks now too.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Does that blog really add anything? Guess it confirms it's something to do with his wife, if true.

[TBG]

Since when have the papers cared if the reasons are relevant, it doesn't matter to them how low or personal the details are if it gets readers and sells papers they'll run a story.

[Guest palnese]

Let him go. Cancel Colo's contract and find a replacement.

 

If it's a matter of life and death the club really shouldn't stand in his way.