Dave Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Hear hear Mick. Leave him alone, your hearing will go at some point as well you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Leave him alone, your hearing will go at some point as well you know. My hearing has been dodgy for years, selectively. My wifes lips move, my hearing closes down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Some of the stick Coloccini has had from people who haven't got a clue about what is going on is mad. He's a class player and always seems to want to do his best for us, even when things haven't been going well for him during games. I hope he remains captain as I don't see any reason to kick him while he's down and he clearly will be as for some unknown reason he does/did want to leave the club. He seems to have gone from here to zero in no time because of his wish to leave yet none of us actually know what has happened between him and his family or him and the club. I'm not sure it's safe to assume that the player is always at fault when things go wrong. Something has clearly gone wrong, he's gone from being a model pro who always gave his best to a player who wants away and that doesn't happen without reason. A massive part of the problem for us is exactly that and it's been going on for weeks. We don't need all the details, just some clarification of what we're actually dealing with would be helpful. fwiw I don't know what to believe but I can see why the lack of information is making some people rather uneasy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 How is there a lack of information? The guy has personal problems and he wants to leave. Why should you be privy to the exact nature of his problems? Do you expect that you or anyone else will be able to solve them for him if you were to know of its exact nature? He's been the best captain we've had for so many years. He's also the best defender I've ever seen at this club so he'll get a lot of leeway from me before I criticise him for his actions. He hasn't said a thing publicly which would rock the boat and he hasn't put the club's reputation on the line as well. He's acted like a true professional through all of this, keeping quiet and doing business behind closed doors, where it belongs. He's also played and trained as normal, another mark of a true professional. He deserves no criticism, even if he in the end he chose to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 A player who wants to leave can still be a model pro. At least he's not posting on Twitter about the club holding him hostage or crying his eyes out in a press conference saying he wants to leave. He has been quiet and has gotten on with his life whilst trying to solve the situation professionally and quietly. What more can you expect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 How is there a lack of information? The guy has personal problems and he wants to leave. Why should you be privy to the exact nature of his problems? Do you expect that you or anyone else will be able to solve them for him if you were to know of its exact nature? He's been the best captain we've had for so many years. He's also the best defender I've ever seen at this club so he'll get a lot of leeway from me before I criticise him for his actions. He hasn't said a thing publicly which would rock the boat and he hasn't put the club's reputation on the line as well. He's acted like a true professional through all of this, keeping quiet and doing business behind closed doors, where it belongs. He's also played and trained as normal, another mark of a true professional. He deserves no criticism, even if he in the end he chose to leave. I agree with your expect for the part in the end. It would depend on how he leaves. If he waits till the end of the season and come to a mutual agreement with the club then that is fine. But if he walks out on us whilst we're in the middle of a relegation fight, then he deserves no respect. If it is a personal problem, I'm sure the club can consider giving him a few weeks compassionate leave. He can of course retire from football if it is really serious and he absolutely has to be back for a longer period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 A player who wants to leave can still be a model pro. At least he's not posting on Twitter about the club holding him hostage or crying his eyes out in a press conference saying he wants to leave. He has been quiet and has gotten on with his life whilst trying to solve the situation professionally and quietly. What more can you expect? Agree that his behavior with regards to communication is not unprofessional although as captain, some words to pacify the club/fans wouldn't have gone amiss. The bigger problem is that you seem to assume (correct me if I'm wrong), that a player can still be considered professional if he wants to leave after signing a contract even if the club does not agree with it. Like I said if it is a personal problem, depending on the gravity of the problem, there are other ways to resolve this than the player walking out of the club and leaving us to fight relegation without our captain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I wouldn't be able to stand this kind of scrutiny. Respectable anonymity is a glorious thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I still hold him in the highest regard. He's obviously got some problems that are bigger than football but he hasn't stiffed us, he hasn't done a Tevez and just p*ssed off. He seems to have been maintaining a dignified silence and engaging constructively with the club to resolve the situation like a man rather than just throwing his toys out of the pram like a lot of these overgrown children would. He's been a great servant to the club and a great captain and if he does need to leave due to issues in his private life then I wish him well and send him on his way with thanks. His dad and San Lorenzo can p*ss of though. c***s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Oh my God I agree with Pip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I don't get people just saying they are fine if he leaves. Surely what matters and the point of the whole discussion is how he leaves us. Of course if there is an agreement between the club and him and we either gave him some compensionate leave or sell him at more or less market value, then that is fine. Anything else and especially if he walks out of the club because he does not get his way would not be acceptable. Whilst we can all understand that some issues are bigger than football, the club can't just let player go because they have personal problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I'm certain that those barracking Colo here wouldn't be doing so if we were soaring at the moment. Personal problems can just pop up in your face at any time. Colo never intended it to be this way, as he signed a long term deal just a few months back. It also came to him so suddenly, as you never heard anything about it in the months before December. It just mushroomed, and sadly, it's come at a time when the club is facing some problems of its own. And such problems just make the football irrelevant, unfortunately for a struggling team like us. If Colo manages to stay at least till the end of the season, then he's a legend in my view. Takes a true man to keep all of this within himself as humanely possible while still gracefully leading a Premier League club out of one of its deepest holes yet. Needless to say, the circumstances he is in would mean that it wouldn't surprise me either if he goes now, but I will still hold him in my highest regard. Impressive how he kept his head down, trained and played as normal when in an absolute rut. Nothing at all like Tevez. That's why I'm not the biggest fan of those who say "He's the cpatain ffs." He's human more than anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I don't get people just saying they are fine if he leaves. Surely what matters and the point of the whole discussion is how he leaves us. Of course if there is an agreement between the club and him and we either gave him some compensionate leave or sell him at more or less market value, then that is fine. Anything else and especially if he walks out of the club because he does not get his way would not be acceptable. Whilst we can all understand that some issues are bigger than football, the club can't just let player go because they have personal problems. That sounds very much like you don't understand some issues are bigger than football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I don't get people just saying they are fine if he leaves. Surely what matters and the point of the whole discussion is how he leaves us. Of course if there is an agreement between the club and him and we either gave him some compensionate leave or sell him at more or less market value, then that is fine. Anything else and especially if he walks out of the club because he does not get his way would not be acceptable. Whilst we can all understand that some issues are bigger than football, the club can't just let player go because they have personal problems. That sounds very much like you don't understand some issues are bigger than football. Of course I do and we can sympathize on a personal level but it does not mean that a player can do whatever he wants including walking out of the club when he has signed a contract. The resolution must be mutually agreeable coz like it or not, the club has paid good money for the player. Like I said, there is no reason why the club can't give him compassionate leave. What do you propose, that a player can just walk out on a contract because of personal reasons? Where does it end? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Some of the stick Coloccini has had from people who haven't got a clue about what is going on is mad. He's a class player and always seems to want to do his best for us, even when things haven't been going well for him during games. I hope he remains captain as I don't see any reason to kick him while he's down and he clearly will be as for some unknown reason he does/did want to leave the club. He seems to have gone from here to zero in no time because of his wish to leave yet none of us actually know what has happened between him and his family or him and the club. I'm not sure it's safe to assume that the player is always at fault when things go wrong. Something has clearly gone wrong, he's gone from being a model pro who always gave his best to a player who wants away and that doesn't happen without reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Looks like he at least has to see the season out, I would suspect that Decker's and Ashley's solicitors have ran legal loops round him and his representatives. Hopefully, by this time we can change his mind in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Knowing Colo, he probably made his request in quite a sensible and low-key way. The timing was bad etc, but it probably was made to be more sensational that it actually was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Knowing Colo, he probably made his request in quite a sensible and low-key way. The timing was bad etc, but it probably was made to be more sensational that it actually was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Do you know colo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Obviously not, I just meant from the way his personality comes across. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 How is there a lack of information? The guy has personal problems and he wants to leave. Why should you be privy to the exact nature of his problems? Do you expect that you or anyone else will be able to solve them for him if you were to know of its exact nature? I did say we don't need all the details but anyway... A very simple statement from Colo would end all the rumours, many of which certainly wouldn't be helping him or his family if his wife is indeed ill. He'll know about all the negative stories that are going round and he could stop all of them with a few lines on the website. Suppose it'll all come out eventually one way or the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 If he goes I will be quite happy to go on what the club has to say about it. It may for example speak in terms of praise and understanding which would make me think he has legitimate private reasons to leave. It may say very little other than confirming his departure. In that case I think we can draw inferences from the relative silence. His time here has given no suggestion that he would act without the utmost professionalism. That alone buys him the benefit of the doubt until the situation has been resolved one way or the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 He's staying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 George Caulkin @CaulkinTheTimes Confirmed: Coloccini stays. #Nufc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Knowing Colo, he probably made his request in quite a sensible and low-key way. The timing was bad etc, but it probably was made to be more sensational that it actually was. Agreed, didn't help his Dad went into overdrive (as did the press unsurprisingly, ready to play the 'chaos at NUFC' card). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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