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Stepping away from the debate a minute, just admiring the brilliance but everyone should watch Sewelly's youtube video Laurent Robert - All 32 goals for Newcastle.

 

So many utterly ridiculous goals that we would be arguing should be goal of the season, he could fucking hammer a ball with so much accuracy from all sorts of distances and angles!

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Robert's contribution in terms of goals and assists gets him in my team, but god was he frustrating, especially towards the end of his time here. Easily one of the laziest players we've had, and for every screamer free kick he scored he shanked a good 10 others, if not more.

 

Unplayable on his day, but lost interest and had a bit of a shit attitude.

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Robert's contribution in terms of goals and assists gets him in my team, but god was he frustrating, especially towards the end of his time here. Easily one of the laziest players we've had, and for every screamer free kick he scored he shanked a good 10 others, if not more.

 

Unplayable on his day, but lost interest and had a bit of a shit attitude.

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My thoughts exactly Lenny.

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There were games where he couldn't be arsed mind. There were some games where we'd be attacking and Bernard would overlap Robert to make the run forward (when Robert didn't have the ball) and if we gave the ball away, you'd see Bernard storm past Robert to get back into position where Robert wasn't covering. :lol:

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I loved Woodgate, but people are seriously forgetting how good Colo actually was for us under a long period of time. He was excellent for us for over 12months and performed day in day out. I'd probably have Colo in my team if I had to pick one of the two because you don't find many classy defenders like Colo.

 

I have never seen a classier defender for us than Woodgate. There were games I spent a good deal of the time just watching him for the enjoyment of that alone. Supremely calm, unerring anticipation, collossal in the air, did the simple things and turn or pass out of trouble, and the ability to then initiate an attack. Beautiful to watch and with a confidence in him that Colo rarely matches.

 

It made his injuries all the more gutting to the point I was almost happy to see him go. Nevertheless, he gave us a few games where he made me feel absolutely honoured to have him at the club, something all to rare and extremely precious over the years.

 

Him and Albert as a pairing man, fuuuck. :cheesy:

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Premier League XI for me

 

Given (01-04)

Venison

Enrique

Woodgate

Coloccini

Ginola

Robert

Lee

Cabaye

Shearer

Beardsley

 

Venners over Debuchy/Beye?

 

I always thought Venison was better at CB during his latter playing days.

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Would have Carroll alongside Shearer. Controversial but in a Newcastle shirt, he was a colossal.

 

A colossal 14 premier league goals? We've had about 5 strikers that have been better than him.

 

Shearer, Cole, Ferdinand, Ba, Beardsley, Bellamy for me were better.

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I wouldn't have Cabaye in my team personally  :frantic:

 

If we're talking about ability, I'd have Hamann & Cabaye. Lee gets in because he was class over a period of time plus he adapted his game towards the end under Sir Bobby, but as stand alone players and as a potential pairing, f***ing hell they'd have been something.

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I wouldn't have Cabaye in my team personally  :frantic:

 

If we're talking about ability, I'd have Hamann & Cabaye. Lee gets in because he was class over a period of time plus he adapted his game towards the end under Sir Bobby, but as stand alone players and as a potential pairing, f***ing hell they'd have been something.

 

In their primes, Lee and Cabaye would've offered a lot more going fee than Hamman with either IMHO.

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Hamann second half of the 98-99 season was as good a midfielder I've seen for us. Was much more complete than when he went to Liverpool imo where they restricted him to a more defensive minded midfielder. That goal against Arsenal. :smitten:

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Colo goes down as the best CB overall I've seen for us due to his consistency etc. Individually, however, Woodgate was better. He was a colossus when fit, and also the ideal partner for whoever played alongside him.

 

Albert was an amazing footballer, but he could defend and was a bit of a hard man when he wanted to be. He sums up that era better than most. He would put in a crunching tackle then dribble his way into midfield before threading a ball through. That goal against Man Utd as well... From a CB? Fucking unreal.

 

Robert and Ginola? Robert is your Colo to Ginola who is your Woodgate. Ginola clearly the better individual, but overall Robert gave us more, did more for us and was generally more consistent in terms of end product, effectiveness etc.

 

Another good defender for us, who was often lambasted, was Darren Peacock, a solid all-rounder who would walk into our side today, easily.

 

Back to Woodgate, he made defending look so easy, he could handle any type of forward. He was immense against Drogba at SJP and Hasselbaink at home again on his debut IIRC. Injuries and his lifestyle and attitude to the game and his own career means he will always be considered a wasted talent, but for a breif spell here at United I doubt we will ever see better.

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Would be tempted by Debuchy or Beye right back, we haven't really been blessed there the last 20-odd years.  Enrique left back too.

 

Agree on both counts. The main full backs in KK's sides (Beresford, Hottinger, Barton etc etc) wouldn't touch the modern day full back imho and, whilst Bernard was immense for that 18 month period, I've not seen a better LB than Enrique.

 

Really?  I might be looking back with rose-tinted glasses but I can't recall anything in the Ginola / Robert / Gillespie's remit being to protect their respective full backs, where the past few years protecting the full back seems to be one of our wingers top one tasks.

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