TherealnorthernTOON Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 He seemed to be more willing to run at his man today than he has been in the past, however there were still a few moments where he made the wrong decision. For example there was a moment early in the second half where Cisse was bursting through the middle in acres of space, he was more or less one on one with Given, and Obertan just had to play a relatively simple pass to him. Instead he tried to go it alone. More or less because he was very alone with given at that time, he was offside for the whole run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Huge improvement. Keep it going Obertanny Martins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 More positives than negatives I thought, maybe a few games of being introduced from the bench with less pressure on will help his confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 He did alot better yesterday but he is still no where near as good as Ben Arfa in my opinion. Obertan can't seem to pick out a simple pass at times and passes to the opposition. Ben arfa is the one we need to persevere with. Ok he's getting caught in possesion too much, but Ben Arfa's all round skill, vision and passing is awesome. The movement of the Dembii is awesome and will surely bring out the best in ben arfa the thought of the three of them on the same pitch is mouth watering (add to that Tiote at some point in the future) and wow we have a brilliant first 11 now. I just hope Pardew tries it Krul Simpson Willi Colo Santon Cabaye/Guthrie Tiote Jonas Ben Arfa Ba Cisse Want to see more of Mehdi too, looks very promising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Thought he was alright tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Hope he improves so he can provide real competition for places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I thought he had a good game too. The thing you notice when he plays is the ball goes down the right a lot more than it does when he doesn't play. It's good to see us attacking down both wings instead of just down the left. I feel sorry for the bloke, he is always going to be on a hiding to nothing by the Ben Arfa fans who demand that he starts instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I thought he had a good game too. The thing you notice when he plays is the ball goes down the right a lot more than it does when he doesn't play. It's good to see us attacking down both wings instead of just down the left. I feel sorry for the bloke, he is always going to be on a hiding to nothing by the Ben Arfa fans who demand that he starts instead. If Obertan starts showing some good form then people will be clamouring for him instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Was unlucky yesterday. Drilled a couple of really nice balls in but they just missed our players. Looked far more confident after his goal from midweek. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Thought he played well. One thing that bugged me was when he went to the left wing, then just fannied around off the ball instead of making his way back over to the right. Makes us so narrow with only Simpson over the right side of the pitch. Other than that nothing to complain about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 He was alright. Got 2 or 3 balls into the box that beat the first man and the fact he actually attempted the cross is a positive in itself! Tracked back really well, smashed zog up in the air at one point and looked a bit more direct going forward. Still so fucking frustrating when he gets up to full speed, could burn 2 or 3 players on the outside, but checks back inside looking for a pass or a chance to do flicks and stepovers. It was a much improved performance I thought, if he keeps improving then great, if that's going to be the best we see out of him then it should be bench duty at best. Going to struggle against Spurs, but then everyone is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I still really REALLY believe he is going to be a very important player for us over the years. Loads to learn still, and very raw, but I think he has all the attributes of a really effective winger... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I wish he would just put in an early cross, instead he takes about 5 touches and allows the defenders to position themselves He definitely did that on a few occasions yesterday which was good to see but unfortunately his poor decision making is still there. Not as frustrating as he was a month ago though. Progress methinks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I wish he would just put in an early cross, instead he takes about 5 touches and allows the defenders to position themselves He definitely did that on a few occasions yesterday which was good to see but unfortunately his poor decision making is still there. Not as frustrating as he was a month ago though. Progress methinks. if he'd played for 90 mins he'd have been just as frustrating imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I wish he would just put in an early cross, instead he takes about 5 touches and allows the defenders to position themselves He definitely did that on a few occasions yesterday which was good to see but unfortunately his poor decision making is still there. Not as frustrating as he was a month ago though. Progress methinks. He did put in a few crosses BUT I am referring more to as soon as he gets the ball, forget taking 5 or so touches, either a first time cross or one touch to control the ball and cross it in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I wish he would just put in an early cross, instead he takes about 5 touches and allows the defenders to position themselves He definitely did that on a few occasions yesterday which was good to see but unfortunately his poor decision making is still there. Not as frustrating as he was a month ago though. Progress methinks. He did put in a few crosses BUT I am referring more to as soon as he gets the ball, forget taking 5 or so touches, either a first time cross or one touch to control the ball and cross it in What I was referring to was the early crossing. He did it a lot more yesterday than he ever has done (though yeah, he needs to do it a lot more). Of course, there were times when he took a touch too many (hence why I said his poor decision making is still there). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 He should be an impact sub and only that, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 He should be an impact sub and only that, imo. (For the foreseeable future anyway). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 the thing that buggs me most is that Jonas and Obertan is very similar as players. Still Jonas is a beast and Obertan is shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 the thing that buggs me most is that Jonas and Obertan is very similar as players. Still Jonas is a beast and Obertan is shite one has a brain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 the thing that buggs me most is that Jonas and Obertan is very similar as players. Still Jonas is a beast and Obertan is s**** one has a brain rather a bigger fighting spirit. dose ´t think Jonas is a specially smart player at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 He should be an impact sub and only that, imo. I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 the thing that buggs me most is that Jonas and Obertan is very similar as players. Still Jonas is a beast and Obertan is s**** one has a brain rather a bigger fighting spirit. dose ´t think Jonas is a specially smart player at all. as well as a fighting spirit. Jonas is incredibly good at using his body to shield the ball and winning free kicks by inviting contact and being a little bit quicker than a defender, you need a brain to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 He did well yesterday, was a decent outlet but still clearly lacks a bit of confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 My Dad sat and watched the game with me for the first time in ages yesterday and was getting so frustrated with Obertan. Kept moaning when he didn't knock it out his feet and run (when he was 1on1 with Dunne) and taking too many touches before putting a cross in. I was like "dad this has actually been one of his better games but at least now you understand how frustrating he can be" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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