Hanshithispantz Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Would probably play better if the crowd weren't constantly on his case. Cajun too. It's not as if Pardew (and indeed Obertan himself) don't know of his limitations, it's just counter-productive to boo the poor lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 The crowd were generally supportive of him. He lost the ball and the crowd moaned but no more than they did then when Tiote, Gutierrez, Ba and Cabaye did the same. When he did good things he got a good cheer. Like others have said, he was probably told to keep the ball so on the occasion when he made a run into Spurs territory he didn't cross it as we only had one player in the area. Perch has passed the scapegoat baton on to Obertan and Simpson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Blaming the fans for his lack of talent is boring now. If he knows he has lost the confidence of the crowd then it's up to him to win it back. Quite a few of our current squad have done it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Was a good sub and he did nothing wrong when he came on. Sickening too always read about how shit he is even if he makes it ok. he will probably never reach the level everyone though he would. But to have him as an late sub in games isn´t a bad chose and people should let him be that player without boo and moan every time the few minutes he is playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 It just make me sad watching him on the field, really think he belongs in the Paraolympics. i feel bad laughing at him every time he tries to play football for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 It just make me sad watching him on the field, really think he belongs in the Paraolympics. i feel bad laughing at him every time he tries to play football for us. Harsh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Lets be honest, Perch got much much more abuse than this lad and he's turned into a bit of a cult hero. If he is scared of the fans, he's in the wrong game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Lets be honest, Perch got much much more abuse than this lad and he's turned into a bit of a cult hero. If he is scared of the fans, he's in the wrong game. The point is it shouldn't happen in the first place. Players shouldn't have to get the SUPPORTers off their backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Who's to blame when he plays badly away from SJP? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Who's to blame when he plays badly away from SJP? Has anyone said anyone is solely to blame, this started after a comment about him looking scared to make a mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 He'd make mistakes in behind closed doors matches. He's just not a good player. If he's scared of being judged or can't take his justified criticism then he's in the wrong business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 The point is it shouldn't happen in the first place. Players shouldn't have to get the SUPPORTers off their backs. Who is to blame for the supporters being on his back? He did one good thing yesterday when he ran back and put everything into the run which ended up with him putting the Spurs player off and us winning possession. The next time he gets the ball he's running away from our goal, he does something good then seems to not know what to do next and he loses the ball. Nobody was on his back, he just couldn't handle the situation and that's down to him. He can run at a player with pace when he doesn't have the ball, once he has the ball it's as if the only thing between his lugs is a void. One minute I was on my feet applauding him, the next minute I was just thinking what the hell is he doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 How can anyone not jeer him when he had loads of space in front and just decided to pass backwards as if saying "I'm too scared to go forward". Tiote (or was it Anita) passed it to him again as if to ask him to go forward and he just passed it back again. That incident to me sums up Obertan, don't have the intelligence to know what to do and don't have the heart and courage to go forward if it means even taking the smallest risk. Complete opposite to HBA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I'll never be convinced that booing one of your own players is anything but counter productive. Love it when the crowd get on an opposing players back and you can see it affecting their game, don't know why some would think it a good idea to do it to one of our own, they aren't going to suddenly think 'hang on, you're right I am playing shit, will play a lot better now' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I'll never be convinced that booing one of your own players is anything but counter productive. Love it when the crowd get on an opposing players back and you can see it affecting their game, don't know why some would think it a good idea to do it to one of our own, they aren't going to suddenly think 'hang on, you're right I am playing s***, will play a lot better now' Did anybody boo him? I didn't hear it so it couldn't have been much if they did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 People were definitely on his back immediately like. His first touch was met with groans with 45000 people screaming at him telling him what to do. He's shit yes, but the way the crowd goes mental when he does something wrong is just not on imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Think it's the same problem with Simmo at times. They'll both be well aware of what opinion the fans have of them and that can sometimes lead to your mind drifting off or taking the easy option by playing it safe. Bit of encouragement for both players would be canny. It looks like both will be in and around the team all season, no sense denting their confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Don't act like Simpson or Obertan are special cases. Whoever you are, Shola or Steven Taylor, Jonas or Cisse, if you fuck up a pass the crowd groan at you. He's not a special case, he's just more shit than the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 It's more near-constant frustration than any kind of getting on his back. Of course he'd get cheered if he did something good but the way he loses the ball will only ever lead to groans and a "here we go again" attitude. I'd be beaming with pride if he was to score at SJP in the league just like everyone else would be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 No one is blaming the fans, you've just made that up for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 No one is blaming the fans, you've just made that up for some reason. The fans are getting blamed for him playing badly before he's even touched the ball "He's worried he might make a mistake :-( " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 He's shite without the groans and jeers, they will only make things even worse though as he's effectively playing with no confidence. Funnily enough the same lot groaned every time Ben Arfa lost the ball last season during one of his poorer periods. It isn't the fans fault he's shit, obviously, but it would be nice if people would stop getting so wound up when he's on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 He's shite without the groans and jeers, they will only make things even worse though as he's effectively playing with no confidence. Funnily enough the same lot groaned every time Ben Arfa lost the ball last season during one of his poorer periods. It isn't the fans fault he's shit, obviously, but it would be nice if people would stop getting so wound up when he's on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 He's s**** without the groans and jeers, they will only make things even worse though as he's effectively playing with no confidence. Funnily enough the same lot groaned every time Ben Arfa lost the ball last season during one of his poorer periods. It isn't the fans fault he's s***, obviously, but it would be nice if people would stop getting so wound up when he's on the ball. The biggest groan yesterday was for Ben Arfa giving the ball away, I don't like it and I didn't like the whistling before the final whistle either but Obertan isn't singled out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 He's shite without the groans and jeers, they will only make things even worse though as he's effectively playing with no confidence. Funnily enough the same lot groaned every time Ben Arfa lost the ball last season during one of his poorer periods. It isn't the fans fault he's shit, obviously, but it would be nice if people would stop getting so wound up when he's on the ball. Fuck off, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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