Newcastle Fan Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 One of his best games today but still not that good, seems to have bags of abillty but just can't use it, i think we should play him and Marveaux against Forest and rest Jonas, the more games he'll get the more he'll get used to using his abillity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Other than an almost complete lack of tracking back he looks more of a threat than Jonas. Seriously, those criticising him need to truly compare the offensive side of Jonas's game with his. His movement is on the whole better and he has quicker feet. He's only had a few games to find those feet too as compared to Jonas. Don't get this at all. Jonas actually had a couple of shots today. Alright, they didn't go in, but i mean - he was in a position to shoot. I wouldn't say his movement is better, either. At least Jonas can beat a man. I counted once from Obertan today. I just said to my Dad after the game had finished "he's like Jonas on an off-day." As for quick feet; he might have more step-overs in his locker than Gutierrez does, but people often mistake Jonas' languid, daddy-long-legs style of play for a lack of control. He actually keeps control of the ball extremely well. Don't really understand your (recent?) dislike of Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 This player, so shit, so fucking shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 this lad is total wank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
powellnufc Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Very hit and miss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 While I think he's been a lot better than he's got credit for, I just don't see him or Jonas providing enough goals or assists to justify them both starting. Marveaux looks like he has a lot better end product and we need that in our side. Obertan would be useful from the bench, but at this point I think Jonas should still be ahead of him to start games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Marveaux Left, Jonas right, Obertan bench; to come on 2nd half for whoever isn't playing well. Sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 This player, so s***, so f***ing s***. :lol: You've actually got very very serious issues. Such a jerk. Please stop repeating this silly post after every game! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest axel Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 He is good on large pitches but on small ones he's rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 He is good on large pitches but on small ones he's rubbish. No room for his head and his legs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 This player, so s***, so f***ing s***. :lol: You've actually got very very serious issues. Such a jerk. Please stop repeating this silly post after every game! Sorry bro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Was poor today but overall hasn't been as bad as is being made out IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Looks better after each game.....never replace a player that get better after each game. I say keep him in the team till his form drops however we dont really have a replacement for Obertan as Jonas doesnt impress on the right either....and Sammy plays on the left. Unless the other midfield players(Vuck,Gosling etc) learn how to run at players as like Obertan and Jonas we dont have a righted sided winger to keep the oppositions under pressure. Possibly Santon? if we are abundant else where Give the lad a chance, he looks willing to improve and desperate to play( i like hungry players) On the note of him being skillful and being able to beat his markers easily...i would beg to defer as he uses his pace to dribble....(pushing the ball one direction and running...) He needs lessons in dribbling while running with the ball with pace. He runs in straight lines while good dribblers leans into a direction while operating at their fastest pace. Good luck to the lad as he is trying... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Wasn't great today but wasn't as bad as he's being made out. Made a few really good runs, provided a good outlet on the right and passed the ball well. One thing I will say is that his first touch is absolutely superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I'm not impressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 He's as headless as Jonas when it comes to determination. Just no idea what to do with the ball at times. Had a decent match today though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCONA Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 really gutted we bought him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 really gutted we bought him Get in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Absolute cack, yet again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I thought he was decent. Few sloppy moments but overall I think he gave Warnock a tough afternoon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Rubbish nut. Decent second half by the team but fuck me, he was bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 This lad really does prove that football is a completely different for everyone watching. Don't think he has played a single game for us where It hasn't been pretty much 50/50 between "thought he was quite decent" and " he is a fucking abortion of a martian footballer". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 This lad really does prove that football is a completely different for everyone watching. Don't think he has played a single game for us where It hasn't been pretty much 50/50 between "thought he was quite decent" and " he is a fucking abortion of a martian footballer". I saw him completely skin his man at least twice today which impressed me, but I can't help thinking he's not a 'proper' footballer. Doesn't seem to have much footballing intelligence or awareness of what's going on around him. He's certainly a more than adequate squad player, just shouldn't be in our first 11 at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 This lad really does prove that football is a completely different for everyone watching. Don't think he has played a single game for us where It hasn't been pretty much 50/50 between "thought he was quite decent" and " he is a fucking abortion of a martian footballer". I saw him completely skin his man at least twice today which impressed me, but I can't help thinking he's not a 'proper' footballer. Doesn't seem to have much footballing intelligence or awareness of what's going on around him. He's certainly a more than adequate squad player, just shouldn't be in our first 11 at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pjpg Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 What about When Ben Arfa comes back? Would you rather take Obertan out and play Ben Arfa RM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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