joeyt Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 The bloke has one goal in his career. Aye stick him on the wing He scored that goal when he was playing on the wing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I think he's fine but we were certainly expecting a lot more when we signed him. He's not appreciably better than Haidara or probably even Dummett and there's really not much point in paying three left-backs at once, even if Pardew would play eleven if he could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Weak link defensively, but clearly cares about the club and has talent, not really sure what you can do with him. A move would probably be best for his career, it's gone stale here. If we can get a couple of players in return (especially a forward) it wouldn't be the end of the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Changing him to right back might solve the issue of him using his preferred foot but I highly doubt it's going to solve the fundamental flaws he has in his game, positioning, tackling, and end product when he is forward. He's got a good first touch and decent technique. He's canny, but let's not go overboard either way. Why do players have to either be a worldy or utter s****? His good first touch and technique mask how poor his contribution is. Much like Jenas, he looks to have it all in his position. Pretty quick, fairly big and strong. A natural footballer he carries the ball well etc. But can he defend? Nope. Positionally? Terrible. Can he do anything meaningful with the ball? Very rarely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rent-A-Quote Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Weak link defensively, but clearly cares about the club and has talent, not really sure what you can do with him. A move would probably be best for his career, it's gone stale here. If we can get a couple of players in return (especially a forward) it wouldn't be the end of the world. Spot on, he's pretty shocking defensively really. He's got enough of an attacking brain about him to play on the wing I reckon. If we can just loosen the burden on him defensively (I know it's only slight playing for Pardew on the wing) because to me he just looks terrified to lose possession so far up the pitch and have to get back to left back and tackle with his weaker foot all the time. He's not Philip Lahm so his right foot just doesn't cut it at left back as he is weak defensively to start with. Playing Dummett or Haidara behind him, giving him a bit more license to cut inside further up the pitch would be a good option because he is one of our few players who can actually go past people! Clearly wants to stay to but he's being howked around Italian clubs like MYM is around French clubs. But as you say seems to have gone stale. Would you take the rumoured Niang and Constant swap deal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Weak link defensively, but clearly cares about the club and has talent, not really sure what you can do with him. A move would probably be best for his career, it's gone stale here. If we can get a couple of players in return (especially a forward) it wouldn't be the end of the world. Spot on, he's pretty shocking defensively really. He's got enough of an attacking brain about him to play on the wing I reckon. If we can just loosen the burden on him defensively (I know it's only slight playing for Pardew on the wing) because to me he just looks terrified to lose possession so far up the pitch and have to get back to left back and tackle with his weaker foot all the time. He's not Philip Lahm so his right foot just doesn't cut it at left back as he is weak defensively to start with. Playing Dummett or Haidara behind him, giving him a bit more license to cut inside further up the pitch would be a good option because he is one of our few players who can actually go past people! Clearly wants to stay to but he's being howked around Italian clubs like MYM is around French clubs. But as you say seems to have gone stale. Would you take the rumoured Niang and Constant swap deal? Niang was supposed to be a real talent, shock horror the big Milan move didn't come off at his age, never seen constant play. I'd take it in principle, at least then the money doesn't sit and collect dust while we have two players the club deemed good enough to trade santon for. I think 3 cb setup with him as a wingback is where he needs to be, probably on the right as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Wasn't so long ago bale was a shit left back and was about to be flogged to stoke or somewhere similar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportnet Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 is he injured? cant see him on the training pictures Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Wasn't so long ago bale was a s*** left back and was about to be flogged to stoke or somewhere similar Us on loan in the Championship wasn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Wasn't so long ago bale was a s*** left back and was about to be flogged to stoke or somewhere similar Us on loan in the Championship wasn't it? Thought it was Burnley or Forest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben-nufc Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Birmingham wasn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 We were definitely linked with him at some point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 It was Forest iirc regarding a loan... Birmingham put a bid in for him for a permanent iirc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Carroll was also a poor left back - two of the most expensive British players of all time are failed left backs. Football eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Dummett will be a world class inside right forward in 2017. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 milesstarforth: Injury blow for #nufc with Davide Santon facing an extended spell on the sidelines. #sgaz http://t.co/aHyJ5qFPrl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Pushes through the need for a right-back and gives a chance to see Haidara. Not the worst injury we could pick up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Haidara, Dummett in then. I hope it's more the former but won't be surprised to see Raylor there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Really hope Haidara gets a run in the team - can't bear to watch Dummett chugging up and down the touchline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Obviously wish the lad a speedy recovery but this could be a blessing in disguise because hes shite. Haidara please! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Dummett - Williamson - Colo - MYM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 If Cabella is gonna play on the left side it might be a good idea to try using a left footed left back behind him anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 If Cabella is gonna play on the left side it might be a good idea to try using a left footed left back behind him anyway. Indeed. To give us good width and overlapping runs. Will make Cabella more effective as well. Santon always cuts in every single f***ing time. Our left flank has been sooooo easy to read for the opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Our play in general is easy to read, i must say with De Jong and Cabella it really will change. I hate to say it but with a couple more buys we might be an attractive team to watch, it depends on how much Pardew manages to fuck it up with his ridiculous round pegs in square holes div tactics. But there's a serious chance that he might get it right, very conflicting feeling about that. I want the team to do well above all, where as i'd like see Pardew fall in a well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 For even that reality to be even close to being true, he'll still need another 4 players minimum. Then we can start getting excited and worried at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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