AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 No doubt the club could bring in crazy amount of revenue if we were successful and classy. But one of those is expensive and the other one isn't possible for Ashley at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 No doubt the club could bring in crazy amount of revenue if we were successful and classy. But one of those is expensive and the other one isn't possible for Ashley at all. Debatable that success and expenditure is mutually exclusive, with a good scouting network and an ambitious managerial appointment a modicum of success and sustainable pressure on the top 6 is possible with a lower outlay, shame Ashley hasn't got a fucking scooby how to do that though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Guess this is in another thread by now but can't find it. http://t.co/PlhFZczsNl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Carvery Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Do those hats smell of sweat for added effect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 This recent? Know this happened once before and they claimed IT error. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 This recent? Know this happened once before and they claimed IT error. It's in there now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/02/ashley-now-repeats-newcastle-press-ban-tactic-rangers/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 ‘Despite today’s ban, we will continue to write the truth. We will continue to report the ongoing crisis on and off the park without fear or favour’. Hopefully they can last longer than the Chronicle. How heroic they were when they slagged the club off for a month or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Aye, but the thing is they're in a much more precarious position to be able to spend said amounts in terms of a business. What £5million might be to them is probably the financial equivalent to £50million for Ashley, one would assume. Swansea, Leicester, West Ham, Southampton, Hull, Palace, QPR all came up recently-ish and they have all shown more ambition than us. Once you come up and consolidate your PL status you then aim to kick on. That's what they have all done with varying degrees of success but at least they have all showed a willingness to improve and aim high. Given how successful our scouting network is, it would take relatively little money (nowhere near £50m) and a decent managerial appointment to have us battling with Spurs, Southampton etc for European places and domestic cups on a regular basis. To actively avoid doing either out of some ill-founded logic that it would increase our chances of relegation is football sacrilege and the complete opposite of what a sporting establishment exists for. If Coventry came up they would show more ambition than us because all that entails is aiming to be the best they can be. Totally agree with this post - we are being horrendously under-financed by a malicious and power-mad owner. The clubs mentioned have indeed tried to improve themselves and none of them have anything like the potential to be permanent top 6 that NUFC has. Ashley is a loose cannon, a law unto himself and until his luck runs out or he gets an offer he can't refuse(which looks unlikely), we are going to be the eternal second-raters, punching way below our weight as a club. There is NO excuse for Ashley...NONE. He could, if he wished, allow the club to spend 50m without blinking and we all know that with a decent manager, probably half this amount would make a huge difference to the side. As long as people are prepared to hand over their hard-earned to this guy, either by buying STs or SD merchandise, we will always be below clubs who we should be eating alive. As for Coventry, MK Dons would show more ambition than NUFC if they got into the PL - believe it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 ‘Despite today’s ban, we will continue to write the truth. We will continue to report the ongoing crisis on and off the park without fear or favour’. Hopefully they can last longer than the Chronicle. How heroic they were when they slagged the club off for a month or so. The answer is - don't buy the Chronicle. In the Magpie Group campaign , they backed SJH even though the existing board didn't like it, but then, John Gibson(a local lad who is a fan)persuaded Graham Stanton to back the campaign...it seems that the current shower are either not locals(so couldn't really give a stuff about the club as long as they get a story)or just interested in keeping on the right side of Ashley and the paper's proprietors..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Given the new prem money deal is going to be worth almost 4.5 billion you have to worry that Ashley might stick around. Irrespective of whether the football is dross and the atmosphere is non-existant, the stands are full (especially for tv cameras) so job done really. The sack pardew campaign and banning press bollocks shows that this is someone definitely DOES give a shit what people say when it's on a large scale. But as long as the stands are full and the money keeps rolling in I just can't see anything changing for a few more years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Given the new prem money deal is going to be worth almost 4.5 billion you have to worry that Ashley might stick around. Irrespective of whether the football is dross and the atmosphere is non-existant, the stands are full (especially for tv cameras) so job done really. The sack pardew campaign and banning press bollocks shows that this is someone definitely DOES give a s*** what people say when it's on a large scale. But as long as the stands are full and the money keeps rolling in I just can't see anything changing for a few more years. Yes, and the problem with this scenario is that long-term and maybe permanent damage is being done to the club's support base. We have all heard the tales about youngsters who no longer want to support the club but are more interested in following the likes of Chelsea, Man C, Man U, Arsenal etc because they are perceived as both better and more successful. The longer Ashley is at the club, the more this will become a problem until it is to late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Given the new prem money deal is going to be worth almost 4.5 billion you have to worry that Ashley might stick around. Irrespective of whether the football is dross and the atmosphere is non-existant, the stands are full (especially for tv cameras) so job done really. The sack pardew campaign and banning press bollocks shows that this is someone definitely DOES give a s*** what people say when it's on a large scale. But as long as the stands are full and the money keeps rolling in I just can't see anything changing for a few more years. Yes, and the problem with this scenario is that long-term and maybe permanent damage is being done to the club's support base. We have all heard the tales about youngsters who no longer want to support the club but are more interested in following the likes of Chelsea, Man C, Man U, Arsenal etc because they are perceived as both better and more successful. The longer Ashley is at the club, the more this will become a problem until it is to late. It was the same when we were kids, Liverpool fans, Everton fans, spurs fans. That always happens. They are now on my facebook as Newcastle fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Once the TV deals are signed is the perfect time to sell. You have the promise of even greater riches without any of it driving up the cost base through inflated wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Once the TV deals are signed is the perfect time to sell. You have the promise of even greater riches without any of it driving up the cost base through inflated wages. Yep - announced today - expected to rise 45% from 3 billion to 4.4 billion - this is just the domestic deal too - the overseas deal is up end of the year! The fat b****** wins again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 The money is insane given that it's driving down the standard so much. At least half the league is so scared of losing it that they're totally unwatchable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 The money is insane given that it's driving down the standard so much. At least half the league is so scared of losing it that they're totally unwatchable. reckon most of the bottom 12 chairmen are just frantically saying "DON'T get relegated" at the start of every season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 The money is insane given that it's driving down the standard so much. At least half the league is so scared of losing it that they're totally unwatchable. Spot on mate - it should be worth at least an additional £12 million per season for the fat pig! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 If the money was shared out on how much entertainment value each team brings to the TV, we'd be getting about thirty quid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Willit be long before these owners of the top league decide that only one team can be relegated, eventually leading to no relegation? They harvests the money and dont need to invest to stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 If the money was shared out on how much entertainment value each team brings to the TV, we'd be getting about thirty quid. And still owe them change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bada Bing Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 One day you'll probably be able to buy a season subscription on Sky for all your clubs' games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 One day you'll probably be able to buy a season subscription on Sky for all your clubs' games. I actually thought this the other day. It's a disgrace. This is literally what the PL is on the verge of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 One day you'll probably be able to buy a season subscription on Sky for all your clubs' games. I want that now TBH. I don't think it would affect attendances that much, but obviously it would further reduce the importance of match-going fans in terms of finance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 One day you'll probably be able to buy a season subscription on Sky for all your clubs' games. I want that now TBH. I don't think it would affect attendances that much, but obviously it would further reduce the importance of match-going fans in terms of finance. Don't really see how that would benefit anything. Apart from the armchair fan that isn't really that bothered... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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