54 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Whats the point in this argument like? So what if someone "called it" before someone else did, the fucking point of it? He's the one ruining the club, everyone knows that, the more press that forces his hand and potentially gets him to sell the better, but no, lets argue about something from 10 years ago. Howay man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Is Stevie the old mentalist back again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I'll be honest like, I did not expect to read the word 'butthurt' from a bloke who's alias is 'The Little Waster' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Butthurt Isn't this bloke well past middle age? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Lads there was an interview recently where a business man said he was interested in buying the club but Ashkeybdidnt show up to the meeting. Anyone remember who it was? Or did I dream this up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Lads there was an interview recently where a business man said he was interested in buying the club but Ashkeybdidnt show up to the meeting. Anyone remember who it was? Or did I dream this up? Is this the middle east thing? Where he ended up going on the piss or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Lads there was an interview recently where a business man said he was interested in buying the club but Ashkeybdidnt show up to the meeting. Anyone remember who it was? Or did I dream this up? Man City's owners before they bought them apparently! If only! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hog Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 To be fair there were some extremely low points when Shepherd was here but in all my years of supporting the club I've never felt it to be as much of a pointless waste of time as it is now. Shepherd was a bell, no doubt but if it was a straight choice between him and Ashley I'd pick Shepherd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 He'll do the same to anyone else who shows interest in buying us IMO. We're literally stuck with him so we might as well make it as uncomfortable and unprofitable as we can. Anything anyone does makes a small difference, from not buying the new kit, not paying for Sky Sports, not buying food/drink in the ground, not using the bars in the ground, not going full stop, covering Sports Direct adverts in the ground over (or rip them up even), bringing your own banners to highlight things, boycotting Sports Direct and any of his other companies, telling friends/family to do the same, and any other measure that in itself is tiny in the grand scheme of things. As someone else has said organise groups to disrupt trade in his stores, send junkmail in massive amounts to his home / company address. Hell block his fucking driveway with a lorry or something? I know some of these are stupid ideas but between us as a fanbase we should be able to come up with something. What did Rangers fans plan/do? AshleyOut could do a lot worse than try to get support from North East journalists / ex-players etc. Might help get the message out there to a wider audience. Probably not making much sense but we need to go at ashley in absolutely every way we possibly can. Make it fucking hell for him. I think the ways and means have to be different while Rafas still here but that doesn't mean nothing should be done now at all. He's had it and still got it far too easy here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 To be fair there were some extremely low points when Shepherd was here but in all my years of supporting the club I've never felt it to be as much of a pointless waste of time as it is now. Shepherd was a bell, no doubt but if it was a straight choice between him and Ashley I'd pick Shepherd. He ran it as boom or bust and relied on spending our sponsor and tv money. His problem was spending it all in one go then leaving us short. With todays money we could have serviced our 75 mil debt and ran the club with ambition. He was goid at selling the club. Ashley has no intrest at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Lads there was an interview recently where a business man said he was interested in buying the club but Ashkeybdidnt show up to the meeting. Anyone remember who it was? Or did I dream this up? Man City's owners before they bought them apparently! If only! Allegedly told his offsider something along the lines of, when he was pissed in a bar, "Fuck em', they can come to me". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Amazing double standards on Newcastle and West Ham from Mike Ashley journalist mate 'Newcastle fans should thank Mike Ashley not call for his head'. mike ashley 5 hours ago by Graham Porter Share No secret that Mike Ashley has friends in the media who will back his side of any argument. One of those is Graeme Bailey. In the past, the former Sky Sports journalist has consistently stood up for Mike Ashley in any Newcastle United debate, particularly when his mate Graham Carr was also at the club. Often trying to portray the Ashley/Carr disastrous transfer strategy as some kind of success. Graeme Bailey now writes for the Gambling Times, which coincidentally a certain David Craig also writes for, that being the same David Craig/’Craigie’ who conducted the embarrassing Mike Ashley ‘interview’ that appeared on Sky Sports. Interestingly, in an article today for Gambling Times, Graeme Bailey launches an astonishing attack on Premier League club owners for undermining their manager in the transfer market this summer. Amusingly, it is Sullivan & Gold and Slaven Bilic he has written about, not Mike Ashley and Rafa Benitez…. In 2016/17 Rafa Benitez produced a £40m net transfer profit, whilst Slaven Bilic had a net spend of £40m in 2016/17 (gross spending of £75m). This summer West Ham have spent around £41m and recouped £23m, meaning a net spend of £18m, whilst Newcastle have a net spend of only £11.5m. Bilic’ comments though don’t really tell the whole truth, because as well as big money deals for Arnautovic (£24m) and Hernandez (£16m), West Ham have also allowed him to bring in players such as Joe Hart on loan and Zabaleta on a free. These last two are exactly the kind of signings Rafa Benitez has been blocked from doing, due to the fact that they predictably come with very high wages. Which of course is also the case with Hernandez and Arnautovic, an unwillingness to pay market level wages, just as big a hindrance at Newcastle as the failure to compete (with Burnley, Swansea, Bournemouth, West Brom etc etc) on transfer fees. The comments made today by Graeme Bailey about the situation at West Ham beggars belief, especially when you see below what he has said in recent months about Newcastle United and the position he takes on Mike Ashley & Rafa Benitez. Graeme Bailey writing in the Gambling Times – 2 September 2017: Anyone who follows West Ham United with any interest, will know that Slaven Bilic is under pressure. The Hammers have made indeed made a poor start to the season – no getting away form the fact, and indeed Bilic could be to blame. But how on earth can any manager work with a pair of owners like David Sullivan and David Gold. The pair of them are everything that is bad about the modern game. Let’s take the transfer window for example, without going into detail – they failed to sign William Carvalho from Sporting Lisbon for numerous reasons – but it is safe to say it was a failure within the West Ham hierarchy to get the deal done. But then in order to cover his own back, Sullivan attempts to throw Bilic under the bus by stating that he turned down the chance to sign Renato Sanches and Grzegorz Krychowiak – who subsequently joined Premier League rivals Swansea and West Brom. “Grzegorz Krychowiak and Renato Sanches were both offered to the manager before their switches elsewhere, but he told us that he is happy with the squad he has,” opined Sullivan. “As a board we are behind Slaven, and he believes he has the tools to turn around our form and rectify our disappointing start to the season.” But you have to ask yourself why? Why would a chairman do this? Easy answer – self publicity. Sullivan thinks the West Ham fans would think bad of him for not signing a player they want, so what to do…blame the manager. Chairmen and owners should be seen and heard when necessary, but constant blabbering to all sections of the media just cheapens any club that do this. Both David’s Gold and Sullivan, think they are men of the people, that they are beloved. Well Mr Sullivan, you are wrong – the West Ham fans are not stupid, they can see through you shameless self publicity. So what if Bilic did say no, why make the public – lets see what Bilic says about the players that Sullivan said no to. If Sullivan wants rid of Bilic, fair enough – just do it, or say that – but these underhand tactics are just beyond belief – it highlights just how clueless the owners of West Ham are and how without any sort of class they are. Shame on you Mr Sullivan…Slaven Bilic is a West Ham legend, don’t forget that – it is something you will never be! Graeme Bailey writing in the Gambling Times – 5 February 2017: Rafa Benitez wants to run Newcastle United, which is admirable but maybe he should concentrate on giving the club some success first – something which he is yet to do. Benitez came in late last season and oversaw their relegation to the Championship, armed with the best squad in the division and then a dozen signings to boot – is it unreasonable to ask him get on and secure promotion? No. So why throughout January do we hear Benitez bemoaning United’s spending? Early in the month owner Mike Ashley sat down with the manager and director Lee Charnley and vented his anger at the senior management at the state of both the squad and their season. Ashley, and rightfully so, believes the current squad is ‘miles away’ from being a Premier League one and on top of that feels that a host of the summer signings were very poor. With that Ashley has demanded his transfer supremo Graham Carr – who was concentrating on foreign scouting for the last 8 months or so – is brought back into the decision making process in order to try and get their business plan back on track. And Newcastle fans have reacted with anger at Ashley and Carr again being in control – but the Magpies supremo knows he will have to spend in excess of £100million on squad improvements this summer as promotion does look firmly on the cards. However, if you are spending sums like that you cannot be wasting it. Benitez needs to stop questioning Ashley, he will not win that war. Yes the fans love the Spaniard, but don’t forget who brought him in and his huge wages. Ashley has every right to question what has been going on at his club – they could and should be dominating the Championship, but they are far from it. Benitez was demanding the signing of Andros Townsend which caused most of the frustration in January – he wanted Ashley to give Palace a £2million profit on a player who has shown no form whatsoever since leaving Newcastle – so rather than saying why didn’t Ashley sign him, the question should be why did Benitez think that they should be over-paying for someone who in no way merits such a fee. The failure of the deal had nothing to do with Carr, or indeed anyone at Newcastle – they showed good business sense by not over-paying for a player, who they know the value of. If a deal is there to be done, it will be done – but as it should be, only for the right terms. Let’s get this straight, Benitez is a brilliant coach – he is at one of the biggest club’s in England, and if he can get things right on the pitch, then there is little doubt he will be backed off it. If things do click, then Newcastle could and should be dining at the top table of not just English football but European football, sooner rather than later. Graeme Bailey writing in the Gambling Times – 9 May 2017: Newcastle fans should thank Mike Ashley not call for his head Despite financing another Newcastle United promotion back to the Premier League – Mike Ashley is again being cast as the ‘bad guy’ in the soap opera that St James’ Park is constantly immersed in. Rafa Benitez guided Newcastle to the title – which is an achievement, but this is hardly Bournemouth or Burnley making to the Premier League, this is the biggest club, with the best squad and the biggest budget making it. Benitez is in a strong position, of sorts, given he has the fans backing 100 per cent against his boss – yet Newcastle’s hierarchy have already made it clear that he won’t have carte blanche to do as he pleases in the transfer market this summer, but that is by no means to say that he won’t be given the finances to compete – he will. Benitez brought in 15 players off the back of being given much more of a free reign than previous managers – but the results left a lot to be desired. Mike Ashley made his thoughts known in January that the squad he paid to build in the previous summer, was not up to scratch. Indeed of the 15 players (ED: Rafa only brought in 11 signings on permanent deals and Atsu on a loan) brought in, most on long-term deals – hardly any have increased in value and would give Newcastle a profit. Dwight Gayle – aside – who you could possibly make a couple of million on, the rest do not come up to scratch, and some of them have left the club dumbfounded. …whilst Newcastle fans will be clamouring for Ashley and the club to spend £100million this summer, they need to remember just how poor state the squad is currently in. Yes he has got some appointments wrong like Steve McClaren – no doubting that – but don’t forget who brought Rafa Benitez in! Newcastle have an owner who refuses to mortgage the club’s future – instead they are one of the most secure well-run clubs in English football, yet the fans still want him out – careful what you wish for… A few classics from above: About West Ham – ‘lets see what Bilic says about the players that Sullivan said no to’ ‘in order to cover his own back, Sullivan attempts to throw Bilic under the bus’ ‘The pair of them (Sullivan and Gold) are everything that is bad about the modern game.’ ‘Well Mr Sullivan, you are wrong – the West Ham fans are not stupid, they can see through you shameless self publicity.’ ‘Sullivan thinks the West Ham fans would think bad of him for not signing a player they want, so what to do…blame the manager.’ ‘If Sullivan wants rid of Bilic, fair enough – just do it, or say that – but these underhand tactics are just beyond belief’ About Newcastle United: ‘Benitez came in late last season and oversaw their relegation to the Championship…’ (ED: Ashley, Carr and McClaren oversaw Newcastle’s relegation, Rafa was given 10 games to save the club after years of neglect/shambles) ‘the Magpies supremo (Mike Ashley) knows he will have to spend in excess of £100million on squad improvements this summer as promotion does look firmly on the cards. However, if you are spending sums like that you cannot be wasting it.’ (ED: Well £36m spent (only £11.5m net), so where is the rest of it?) ‘Newcastle fans should thank Mike Ashley not call for his head’ ‘Despite financing another Newcastle United promotion back to the Premier League – Mike Ashley is again being cast as the ‘bad guy’’ (ED: It was Ashley who got Newcastle relegated!) ‘Newcastle have an owner who refuses to mortgage the club’s future – instead they are one of the most secure well-run clubs in English football’ ‘don’t forget who brought Rafa Benitez in!’ (ED: It was Rafa who approached Newcastle) ‘Newcastle fans will be clamouring for Ashley and the club to spend £100million this summer…that is by no means to say that he (Rafa) won’t be given the finances to compete – he will. (ED: Newcastle spent only £11.5m net this summer) ‘Newcastle could and should be dining at the top table of not just English football but European football, sooner rather than later.’ (ED: When Bournemouth are spending £20m on players and Rafa spending £5m on a striker and not backed to bring in a left-back – especially with Dummett not fit until November) ‘Yes the fans love the Spaniard, but don’t forget who brought him in and his huge wages.’ ‘Benitez was demanding the signing of Andros Townsend which caused most of the frustration in January – he wanted Ashley to give Palace a £2million profit… they showed good business sense by not over-paying for a player, who they know the value of.’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Stopped reading at "Rafa Benitez wants to run Newcastle United, which is admirable but maybe he should concentrate on giving the club some success first – something which he is yet to do." Unbelievable contradiction. Reading the rest will make me livid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Amazing double standards on Newcastle and West Ham from Mike Ashley journalist mate 'Newcastle fans should thank Mike Ashley not call for his head'. mike ashley 5 hours ago by Graham Porter Share No secret that Mike Ashley has friends in the media who will back his side of any argument. One of those is Graeme Bailey. In the past, the former Sky Sports journalist has consistently stood up for Mike Ashley in any Newcastle United debate, particularly when his mate Graham Carr was also at the club. Often trying to portray the Ashley/Carr disastrous transfer strategy as some kind of success. Graeme Bailey now writes for the Gambling Times, which coincidentally a certain David Craig also writes for, that being the same David Craig/’Craigie’ who conducted the embarrassing Mike Ashley ‘interview’ that appeared on Sky Sports. Interestingly, in an article today for Gambling Times, Graeme Bailey launches an astonishing attack on Premier League club owners for undermining their manager in the transfer market this summer. Amusingly, it is Sullivan & Gold and Slaven Bilic he has written about, not Mike Ashley and Rafa Benitez…. In 2016/17 Rafa Benitez produced a £40m net transfer profit, whilst Slaven Bilic had a net spend of £40m in 2016/17 (gross spending of £75m). This summer West Ham have spent around £41m and recouped £23m, meaning a net spend of £18m, whilst Newcastle have a net spend of only £11.5m. Bilic’ comments though don’t really tell the whole truth, because as well as big money deals for Arnautovic (£24m) and Hernandez (£16m), West Ham have also allowed him to bring in players such as Joe Hart on loan and Zabaleta on a free. These last two are exactly the kind of signings Rafa Benitez has been blocked from doing, due to the fact that they predictably come with very high wages. Which of course is also the case with Hernandez and Arnautovic, an unwillingness to pay market level wages, just as big a hindrance at Newcastle as the failure to compete (with Burnley, Swansea, Bournemouth, West Brom etc etc) on transfer fees. The comments made today by Graeme Bailey about the situation at West Ham beggars belief, especially when you see below what he has said in recent months about Newcastle United and the position he takes on Mike Ashley & Rafa Benitez. Graeme Bailey writing in the Gambling Times – 2 September 2017: Anyone who follows West Ham United with any interest, will know that Slaven Bilic is under pressure. The Hammers have made indeed made a poor start to the season – no getting away form the fact, and indeed Bilic could be to blame. But how on earth can any manager work with a pair of owners like David Sullivan and David Gold. The pair of them are everything that is bad about the modern game. Let’s take the transfer window for example, without going into detail – they failed to sign William Carvalho from Sporting Lisbon for numerous reasons – but it is safe to say it was a failure within the West Ham hierarchy to get the deal done. But then in order to cover his own back, Sullivan attempts to throw Bilic under the bus by stating that he turned down the chance to sign Renato Sanches and Grzegorz Krychowiak – who subsequently joined Premier League rivals Swansea and West Brom. “Grzegorz Krychowiak and Renato Sanches were both offered to the manager before their switches elsewhere, but he told us that he is happy with the squad he has,” opined Sullivan. “As a board we are behind Slaven, and he believes he has the tools to turn around our form and rectify our disappointing start to the season.” But you have to ask yourself why? Why would a chairman do this? Easy answer – self publicity. Sullivan thinks the West Ham fans would think bad of him for not signing a player they want, so what to do…blame the manager. Chairmen and owners should be seen and heard when necessary, but constant blabbering to all sections of the media just cheapens any club that do this. Both David’s Gold and Sullivan, think they are men of the people, that they are beloved. Well Mr Sullivan, you are wrong – the West Ham fans are not stupid, they can see through you shameless self publicity. So what if Bilic did say no, why make the public – lets see what Bilic says about the players that Sullivan said no to. If Sullivan wants rid of Bilic, fair enough – just do it, or say that – but these underhand tactics are just beyond belief – it highlights just how clueless the owners of West Ham are and how without any sort of class they are. Shame on you Mr Sullivan…Slaven Bilic is a West Ham legend, don’t forget that – it is something you will never be! Graeme Bailey writing in the Gambling Times – 5 February 2017: Rafa Benitez wants to run Newcastle United, which is admirable but maybe he should concentrate on giving the club some success first – something which he is yet to do. Benitez came in late last season and oversaw their relegation to the Championship, armed with the best squad in the division and then a dozen signings to boot – is it unreasonable to ask him get on and secure promotion? No. So why throughout January do we hear Benitez bemoaning United’s spending? Early in the month owner Mike Ashley sat down with the manager and director Lee Charnley and vented his anger at the senior management at the state of both the squad and their season. Ashley, and rightfully so, believes the current squad is ‘miles away’ from being a Premier League one and on top of that feels that a host of the summer signings were very poor. With that Ashley has demanded his transfer supremo Graham Carr – who was concentrating on foreign scouting for the last 8 months or so – is brought back into the decision making process in order to try and get their business plan back on track. And Newcastle fans have reacted with anger at Ashley and Carr again being in control – but the Magpies supremo knows he will have to spend in excess of £100million on squad improvements this summer as promotion does look firmly on the cards. However, if you are spending sums like that you cannot be wasting it. Benitez needs to stop questioning Ashley, he will not win that war. Yes the fans love the Spaniard, but don’t forget who brought him in and his huge wages. Ashley has every right to question what has been going on at his club – they could and should be dominating the Championship, but they are far from it. Benitez was demanding the signing of Andros Townsend which caused most of the frustration in January – he wanted Ashley to give Palace a £2million profit on a player who has shown no form whatsoever since leaving Newcastle – so rather than saying why didn’t Ashley sign him, the question should be why did Benitez think that they should be over-paying for someone who in no way merits such a fee. The failure of the deal had nothing to do with Carr, or indeed anyone at Newcastle – they showed good business sense by not over-paying for a player, who they know the value of. If a deal is there to be done, it will be done – but as it should be, only for the right terms. Let’s get this straight, Benitez is a brilliant coach – he is at one of the biggest club’s in England, and if he can get things right on the pitch, then there is little doubt he will be backed off it. If things do click, then Newcastle could and should be dining at the top table of not just English football but European football, sooner rather than later. Graeme Bailey writing in the Gambling Times – 9 May 2017: Newcastle fans should thank Mike Ashley not call for his head Despite financing another Newcastle United promotion back to the Premier League – Mike Ashley is again being cast as the ‘bad guy’ in the soap opera that St James’ Park is constantly immersed in. Rafa Benitez guided Newcastle to the title – which is an achievement, but this is hardly Bournemouth or Burnley making to the Premier League, this is the biggest club, with the best squad and the biggest budget making it. Benitez is in a strong position, of sorts, given he has the fans backing 100 per cent against his boss – yet Newcastle’s hierarchy have already made it clear that he won’t have carte blanche to do as he pleases in the transfer market this summer, but that is by no means to say that he won’t be given the finances to compete – he will. Benitez brought in 15 players off the back of being given much more of a free reign than previous managers – but the results left a lot to be desired. Mike Ashley made his thoughts known in January that the squad he paid to build in the previous summer, was not up to scratch. Indeed of the 15 players (ED: Rafa only brought in 11 signings on permanent deals and Atsu on a loan) brought in, most on long-term deals – hardly any have increased in value and would give Newcastle a profit. Dwight Gayle – aside – who you could possibly make a couple of million on, the rest do not come up to scratch, and some of them have left the club dumbfounded. …whilst Newcastle fans will be clamouring for Ashley and the club to spend £100million this summer, they need to remember just how poor state the squad is currently in. Yes he has got some appointments wrong like Steve McClaren – no doubting that – but don’t forget who brought Rafa Benitez in! Newcastle have an owner who refuses to mortgage the club’s future – instead they are one of the most secure well-run clubs in English football, yet the fans still want him out – careful what you wish for… A few classics from above: About West Ham – ‘lets see what Bilic says about the players that Sullivan said no to’ ‘in order to cover his own back, Sullivan attempts to throw Bilic under the bus’ ‘The pair of them (Sullivan and Gold) are everything that is bad about the modern game.’ ‘Well Mr Sullivan, you are wrong – the West Ham fans are not stupid, they can see through you shameless self publicity.’ ‘Sullivan thinks the West Ham fans would think bad of him for not signing a player they want, so what to do…blame the manager.’ ‘If Sullivan wants rid of Bilic, fair enough – just do it, or say that – but these underhand tactics are just beyond belief’ About Newcastle United: ‘Benitez came in late last season and oversaw their relegation to the Championship…’ (ED: Ashley, Carr and McClaren oversaw Newcastle’s relegation, Rafa was given 10 games to save the club after years of neglect/shambles) ‘the Magpies supremo (Mike Ashley) knows he will have to spend in excess of £100million on squad improvements this summer as promotion does look firmly on the cards. However, if you are spending sums like that you cannot be wasting it.’ (ED: Well £36m spent (only £11.5m net), so where is the rest of it?) ‘Newcastle fans should thank Mike Ashley not call for his head’ ‘Despite financing another Newcastle United promotion back to the Premier League – Mike Ashley is again being cast as the ‘bad guy’’ (ED: It was Ashley who got Newcastle relegated!) ‘Newcastle have an owner who refuses to mortgage the club’s future – instead they are one of the most secure well-run clubs in English football’ ‘don’t forget who brought Rafa Benitez in!’ (ED: It was Rafa who approached Newcastle) ‘Newcastle fans will be clamouring for Ashley and the club to spend £100million this summer…that is by no means to say that he (Rafa) won’t be given the finances to compete – he will. (ED: Newcastle spent only £11.5m net this summer) ‘Newcastle could and should be dining at the top table of not just English football but European football, sooner rather than later.’ (ED: When Bournemouth are spending £20m on players and Rafa spending £5m on a striker and not backed to bring in a left-back – especially with Dummett not fit until November) ‘Yes the fans love the Spaniard, but don’t forget who brought him in and his huge wages.’ ‘Benitez was demanding the signing of Andros Townsend which caused most of the frustration in January – he wanted Ashley to give Palace a £2million profit… they showed good business sense by not over-paying for a player, who they know the value of.’ What a little wanker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 So you saw through it at exactly the same time as everybody else did then. f***ing hell. I refer you to my previous answer [emoji854] I've seen it, it's utter bollocks. I can't believe anyone would try and claim they were ahead of the curve and cite Keegan resigning as the moment. 'I knew that Al Qaeda were trouble, I tried to tell you all!' 'When did you realise?' '9/11' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 NE5 never supported Souness like, he was massively against him IIRC. Despite his posts, I found him to be sound outside of that via PM etc. Same with HTL. The latter was a very knowledgeable poster and I remmeber both form the nufc.nu days so kind of have fond memories of them. As for FS, he would walk into our club and be like Alan Shearer compared to fucking the fat cunt who now owns us. And I was one of his biggest critics. He would have never appointed Rafa like. We sacked Sir Bobby and replaced him with Souness. Liverpool got rid of Houllier and replaced him with Rafa... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 NE5 never supported Souness like, he was massively against him IIRC. Despite his posts, I found him to be sound outside of that via PM etc. Same with HTL. The latter was a very knowledgeable poster and I remmeber both form the nufc.nu days so kind of have fond memories of them. As for FS, he would walk into our club and be like Alan Shearer compared to fucking the fat cunt who now owns us. And I was one of his biggest critics. He would have never appointed Rafa like. We sacked Sir Bobby and replaced him with Souness. Liverpool got rid of Houllier and replaced him with Rafa... Agree with all of this apart from the bit in bold. In the same situation had Rafa come knocking with a project he'd not only snap his arms off but would have backed him till our ruin if necessary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I don't think I've heard of Graham Porter before, that's a really good, scathing article about Ashley's gimps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 So you saw through it at exactly the same time as everybody else did then. f***ing hell. I refer you to my previous answer [emoji854] I've seen it, it's utter bollocks. I can't believe anyone would try and claim they were ahead of the curve and cite Keegan resigning as the moment. 'I knew that Al Qaeda were trouble, I tried to tell you all!' 'When did you realise?' '9/11' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Christ almighty. We want the local press to hold them to account, then when they do people whinge about it. Which one do you want? My thoughts exactly. They're the only ones running an offensive atm. Good on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Christ almighty. We want the local press to hold them to account, then when they do people whinge about it. Which one do you want? At this juncture its pointless the Ron asking him fucking questions as if he gives a shit or will answer them . They need to start a campaign ( by any means necessary ) to drive him out . That's what they are doing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFC Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I pray that Vulcan kicks around buying a Premier League club again and sets their sites here (rumored interest in Villa a while back). Please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Ashley's greatest ever lie is to convince everyone that the club owes him money because he paid off the debt, when in fact he owns the whole club lock stock and barrel and he is responsible for the debt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 something I dont understand. He cant spend cash because all his worth is tied up in shares in SD? I assume sports direct high value is due to the profits it makes,so him having majority shares,where does all the profits from sports direct go? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 something I dont understand. He cant spend cash because all his worth is tied up in shares in SD? I assume sports direct high value is due to the profits it makes,so him having majority shares,where does all the profits from sports direct go? The profits will just become part of the capital, or you can say, part of the value of those shares. Unless SD announced a cash dividend paid out to shareholders, Ashley would not get any cash from the profits shared. Of course there are other means to get the cash, the most simplistic form is just to do an internal loan from SD to Newcastle United. However this will impose other disadvantages to his own business which he will never accept. Anyway, part of the story is real, part of the story is fake, as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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