Stu Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Thanks for pointing that out. I am now shaking with rage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I think this weeks events are the final straw for me, I will be pulling the plug on my investment come February Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 find it very, very unlikely he'll ever want to sell simply due to the advertising now - unless pards achieves his goal of a successful relegation challenge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 It's fairly obvious now isn't it? 1) premiership survival 2) raid the January bargain bucket for essential players 3) Allow the club to run at break even 4) Plaster the club with free advertising 5) Rake in the benefits of tacky SD revenue increase where he has no one to answer to 6) Rinse and repeat It's depressing and frustrating, there's nothing can be done, he won't sell up with that kind of exposure when his real passion is reaping all those rewards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 It's fairly obvious now isn't it? 1) premiership survival 2) raid the January bargain bucket for essential players 3) Allow the club to run at break even 4) Plaster the club with free advertising 5) Rake in the benefits of tacky SD revenue increase where he has no one to answer to 6) Rinse and repeat It's depressing and frustrating, there's nothing can be done, he won't sell up with that kind of exposure when his real passion is reaping all those rewards. The worst thing that can happen is that we do OK (decent result here and there ect.) tbh as loads of people are more than content with dull mediocrity and can't stop going to matches for selfish reasons (see: this forum. ) and thus the poison lingers and the rot sets in. If it takes a catastrophe (another relegation or whatever ) to rid the club of this s*** then I'm all for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I think more awareness could do with being raised about this advertising mularky, I'll ring in Total Sport about it this week, if I can. It is a 'scam' - no doubt about it. Unforunately Newcastle is now just a part of Sports Direct, with the club receiving no benefit from that 'partnership'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I'd wonder if this would be affected by anti-competition laws. As far as I know none of SD's competitors can receive millions of pounds worth of worldwide exposure free each year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I'd wonder if this would be affected by anti-competition laws. As far as I know none of SD's competitors can receive millions of pounds worth of worldwide exposure free each year. worst argument ever tbh, all they have to do is spend 250m on a PL football club and heyho there you go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I'd wonder if this would be affected by anti-competition laws. As far as I know none of SD's competitors can receive millions of pounds worth of worldwide exposure free each year. worst argument ever tbh, all they have to do is spend 250m on a PL football club and heyho there you go Sports Direct haven't spent a penny on a PL football club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I'd wonder if this would be affected by anti-competition laws. As far as I know none of SD's competitors can receive millions of pounds worth of worldwide exposure free each year. worst argument ever tbh, all they have to do is spend 250m on a PL football club and heyho there you go Sports Direct haven't spent a penny on a PL football club. i understand your point like, but there's probably nothing anywhere to say that a club has to charge for advertising - it's not obligatory, it's their choice as a business to maximise commercial revenue or not not sure if conflict of interest is applicable in anyway, 'cause it quite clearly is a conflict of interests Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Basically the opposite of Man City, where if they need some extra transfer funds Etihad can just buy one advertising hoarding for £30m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I'd wonder if this would be affected by anti-competition laws. As far as I know none of SD's competitors can receive millions of pounds worth of worldwide exposure free each year. worst argument ever tbh, all they have to do is spend 250m on a PL football club and heyho there you go Sports Direct haven't spent a penny on a PL football club. i understand your point like, but there's probably nothing anywhere to say that a club has to charge for advertising - it's not obligatory, it's their choice as a business to maximise commercial revenue or not not sure if conflict of interest is applicable in anyway, 'cause it quite clearly is a conflict of interests Yeah, I agree it's tenuous but as SD and NUFC are separate entities the argument could be made that there is collusion between the two parties to engender an unfair advantage in the market place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Basically the opposite of Man City, where if they need some extra transfer funds Etihad can just buy one advertising hoarding for £30m. was just gonna make the same point aye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Yeah, I agree it's tenuous but as SD and NUFC are separate entities the argument could be made that there is collusion between the two parties to engender an unfair advantage in the market place. has ashley left anyone around in the sports merchandise sector to be able to complain? he's just about decimated the lot hasn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Yeah, I agree it's tenuous but as SD and NUFC are separate entities the argument could be made that there is collusion between the two parties to engender an unfair advantage in the market place. has ashley left anyone around in the sports merchandise sector to be able to complain? he's just about decimated the lot hasn't he? Since he took over NUFC he has. The free advertising and brand exposure obviously did nothing for them though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 The meeting with the Malaysians went well but they wanted 6 weeks to do due diligence. The offer from the other party at Freshfields waived that right and was a better deal. I was told that the man behind the deal was Mike Ashley and I sat with his representatives over 3 days thrashing out a deal. I was keen to know why they wanted the club and they were quite honest. They wanted to market their sports goods in the Far East and would use the Club to help do this. He bought the club as an advertising vehicle. Whether or not you disputed SJH's words at the time I think it's clear now what his intentions were and are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 well, that's what he told SJH - i think there's more to the rumour he was buying to flip it and that fell through, if not why did it take so long for the advertising thing to become so prominent? it's not like he gives a fuck what anyone thinks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 well, that's what he told SJH - i think there's more to the rumour he was buying to flip it and that fell through, if not why did it take so long for the advertising thing to become so prominent? it's not like he gives a fuck what anyone thinks Possible the club had contracts that needed to be honoured. I don't know. Track the decline in advertising revenue over his tenure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I think more awareness could do with being raised about this advertising mularky, I'll ring in Total Sport about it this week, if I can. It is a 'scam' - no doubt about it. Unforunately Newcastle is now just a part of Sports Direct, with the club receiving no benefit from that 'partnership'. What do B365 pay for their shirt and stadium advertising at Stoke? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Thanks for pointing that out. I am now shaking with rage. What a pointless little bitch you seem most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I think more awareness could do with being raised about this advertising mularky, I'll ring in Total Sport about it this week, if I can. It is a 'scam' - no doubt about it. Unforunately Newcastle is now just a part of Sports Direct, with the club receiving no benefit from that 'partnership'. What do B365 pay for their shirt and stadium advertising at Stoke? A "substantial seven-figure deal", but no specific numbers released as far as I can see. http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/Stoke-City-bet365-shirts-Stoke-City/story-16022167-detail/story.html#axzz2gI5aIRa7 "We received a number of offers from potential sponsors, but bet365 were the highest bidders." Funny, I was expecting "No-one was really interested, if they hadn't come along we'd just have left everything blank" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Seems we're not the only ones being used by the owner to further the family business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Seems we're not the only ones being used by the owner to further the family business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Seems we're not the only ones being used by the owner to further the family business. I thought it was pretty obvious that the issue people have is that Sports Direct were getting free adverts which was cutting off income from paying advertisers. Thus the multi-million pound deal Bet365 have made with Stoke to put adverts on their kits and stadium isn't a very good comparison. For debating purposes it's usually better to know the answer to rhetorical questions before you ask them to make sure it's your side of the argument they support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Seems we're not the only ones being used by the owner to further the family business. Piss off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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