binnsy Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Best was our best player today, for me. Did you not see Krul and Saylor at the other end like not to mention Tiote who were all better than Best. No they weren't. Saylor had his worst game of the season by a distance. whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertCommunicator Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Never thought I'd say it, but I'd rather go with the lesser of two evils and keep Raylor in the side at the expense of Simpson for this one. Santon to make his debut at LB. Frankly, Simpson has been abysmal defensively and going forward for the last 20-odd PL games. Too comfortable in the side, clearly. Bloody, hell Ronaldo, for once, I agree with you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertCommunicator Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Krul Raylor Saylor Colo Santon Cabaye Tiote Marveaux Jonas Ben Arfa Ba Harper Simpson Fergie Obertan Guthrie Best Sammy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 A lot can happen between now and the Spurs game by way of injuries and what have you, but I'd field 4-2-3-1: Krul Raylor Colo Saylor Santon Cabaye Tiote Jonas Best Ben Arfa Ba My jusitifications I don't think we can get a win here without the quality Ben Arfa and Santon will bring to the side, basically. Furthermore, Spurs are a really good passing side and we'll have to work hard to get the ball back off them so I don't think we can afford to have Obertan - who seems very suspect defensively so far IMO. Transferring Gutierrez over will hopefully help Raylor out in this respect. Santon has Champions' League experience and I have no concerns throwing him into the "deep end". If he can do a job against Cronaldo, handling Aaron 'one foot' Lennon is not beyond his capabilities. It's not easy by any means, but I see no sense in all the hand-holding and coddling him - provided he is fit to play. In terms of attack, Best and Ba are both performing so well I can't see why we'd take them out of the side. Having multiple goal threats is vital in this league, especially against top opposition. I see the merit in having Marveaux in ahead of one of Best or Ba, but I just think that makes the remaining lone striker that much easier to pick up - because Ben Arfa will not be operating near the 6 yard box, but more as a playmaker. We're at home, and I think we'll do better if we're attacking and have them on the backfoot rather than inviting pressure on ourselves by being a little less ambitious. It's a good Tottenham side, but we're (more or less) full strength and whilst we should respect them I don't think we should fear them. It will require a high-octane, highly energetic performance to ensure we don't get exposed defensively but if we work hard to track back once we lose possession I think we can do it - provided they're not all knackered from the international break! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Important selection decisions for Pardew to make here. As others have said, this game should give us a pretty good indication of our prospects for the season. Personally, I would include at least two of Santon/Marveaux/HBA, but can understand the arguments against changing a winning team. Has Marveaux played much on the right during his career so far? Would definitely prefer him to Obertan, but Pardew seems not to rate him so highly.. Would also drop Simpson instead of Raylor. Very poor so far this season, and stands out as an obvious weak link even more than Raylor IMO (although that might be more because of the defensive abilities of Jonas). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 I did say I think Pardew will go unchanged but I think the lure of Ben Arfa will be too much to refuse. Not quite sure where he'll start mind. Drop Best? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 At home, I can see HBA playing on the right in a free-role type of position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 If no injury same eleven.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest magpie99 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I remember last season, on holiday, sitting in a Singapore bar surrounded by Spurs supporters thnking to myself, how the hell are we winning this, until 3 minutes into injury time. To beat Spurs, we need creativity, vision, pace, and trickery. These are things that Ben Arfa, Marveaux and Santon have in abundance and we need to take the game to Spurs. Obertan has no end product, Raylor would be raped by Lennon and Best would be a better bet off the bench if things werent going well. Also, a lot depends on Ba.s fitness. Wasnt he injurred yesterday? If we take the game to Spurs, mark their front 2 tightly and get Tiote to do a number on Modric, we will win the game easily. Just you watch. If Pardew keeps the same team, we will get nothing more than a draw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Santon and HBA MUST play. It´s a shame to drop players that are playing good to there standards, but professional football is not a kindergarten there everyone should play. HBA and Santon (in the future anyway) is different class to Raylor and we MUST MUST MUST MUST make the chance. I really don´t want to replace some one like Best. But HBA is a different act and must be on the field. When the match starts he will have had about a moth of good training and should be fit. And Idea should be to drop Obertan and in that give Best and Ba more game time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 A lot can happen between now and the Spurs game by way of injuries and what have you, but I'd field 4-2-3-1: Krul Raylor Colo Saylor Santon Cabaye Tiote Jonas Best Ben Arfa Ba My jusitifications I don't think we can get a win here without the quality Ben Arfa and Santon will bring to the side, basically. Furthermore, Spurs are a really good passing side and we'll have to work hard to get the ball back off them so I don't think we can afford to have Obertan - who seems very suspect defensively so far IMO. Transferring Gutierrez over will hopefully help Raylor out in this respect. Santon has Champions' League experience and I have no concerns throwing him into the "deep end". If he can do a job against Cronaldo, handling Aaron 'one foot' Lennon is not beyond his capabilities. It's not easy by any means, but I see no sense in all the hand-holding and coddling him - provided he is fit to play. In terms of attack, Best and Ba are both performing so well I can't see why we'd take them out of the side. Having multiple goal threats is vital in this league, especially against top opposition. I see the merit in having Marveaux in ahead of one of Best or Ba, but I just think that makes the remaining lone striker that much easier to pick up - because Ben Arfa will not be operating near the 6 yard box, but more as a playmaker. We're at home, and I think we'll do better if we're attacking and have them on the backfoot rather than inviting pressure on ourselves by being a little less ambitious. It's a good Tottenham side, but we're (more or less) full strength and whilst we should respect them I don't think we should fear them. It will require a high-octane, highly energetic performance to ensure we don't get exposed defensively but if we work hard to track back once we lose possession I think we can do it - provided they're not all knackered from the international break! that line-up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 A lot can happen between now and the Spurs game by way of injuries and what have you, but I'd field 4-2-3-1: Krul Raylor Colo Saylor Santon Cabaye Tiote Jonas Best Ben Arfa Ba My jusitifications I don't think we can get a win here without the quality Ben Arfa and Santon will bring to the side, basically. Furthermore, Spurs are a really good passing side and we'll have to work hard to get the ball back off them so I don't think we can afford to have Obertan - who seems very suspect defensively so far IMO. Transferring Gutierrez over will hopefully help Raylor out in this respect. Santon has Champions' League experience and I have no concerns throwing him into the "deep end". If he can do a job against Cronaldo, handling Aaron 'one foot' Lennon is not beyond his capabilities. It's not easy by any means, but I see no sense in all the hand-holding and coddling him - provided he is fit to play. In terms of attack, Best and Ba are both performing so well I can't see why we'd take them out of the side. Having multiple goal threats is vital in this league, especially against top opposition. I see the merit in having Marveaux in ahead of one of Best or Ba, but I just think that makes the remaining lone striker that much easier to pick up - because Ben Arfa will not be operating near the 6 yard box, but more as a playmaker. We're at home, and I think we'll do better if we're attacking and have them on the backfoot rather than inviting pressure on ourselves by being a little less ambitious. It's a good Tottenham side, but we're (more or less) full strength and whilst we should respect them I don't think we should fear them. It will require a high-octane, highly energetic performance to ensure we don't get exposed defensively but if we work hard to track back once we lose possession I think we can do it - provided they're not all knackered from the international break! that line-up actuallly it is only Ben arfa i want central behind the striker. Maybe best out of the line up! Jonas/ Jonas/ obertan/ ben arfa Marveaux marveaux Ba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I'd be tempted to put Jonas on the right for this one with HBA on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I'll go for: ---------------Krul------------------ Simpson---Taylor---Colo----Santon Obertan---Cabaye---Tiote---Jonas -------------Ba ----Best---------- Subs: Harps, Benarfa, Marveaux, Raylor, Abeid, SAmmeobi, Guthrie Hopefully we can give some of the subs a run out and put five past the yid-mackems! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I fucking hate Spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Number 9 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 OK, I'll admit to being the first one sad enough to lurk a Spurs forum... newcastle are winning their games as well and 3rd place with 15 points. So next 2 games will be very huge for us because its against direct opponnents for the 4th spot . First the scum at home and then away to newcastle which has always been hard place for us. Always liked spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Positive, positive, positive. Keep it going. 4-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 If we win 4-0 we're winning the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Think it'll be a draw, shudder to think what will happen with Bale vs Simpson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Number 9 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Meh, why stop at the league? We're going to win the champions league. This season. We're just THAT good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Bale will no doubt be diving around the place like normal. Odious cretin that he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Virtually same side for me, but I'd bring in HBA for Best and bring Marveaux/Santon on earlyish in the second half. 1-1. S.Taylor from a corner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Could do with a cheeky injury or suspension to Modric, VdV or Adebayor today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Adebayor always rapes us, hopefully Arsenal bring Keown out of retirement today to wind him up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Nervous about this one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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