madras Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Why has the British Muslim Council not taken concern with previous sponsorships? Betting companies, alcohol producers, companies like Standard Chartered? Did they advise all their muslim players to refuse to play in the Carling Cup last season? or indeed, the BARCLAYS premier league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 The Muslim Council of Britain can cock off. What a load of old bollocks. What they are saying is true though: As a Muslim myself I certainly won't be buying the top with Wonga on it! What they are saying is true in reflecting their particular laws (though it's a joke that the journalists only start fishing for quotes over this particular deal), but the old bollocks I take issue with is the hard and fast rule they are holding onto in the first place. These kinds of short term, high risk loans fill a gap that has only appeared fairly recently and has a lot to do with the speed with which transfers and transactions can be done now. To apply this long standing Muslim law to it as a practice seems to me inflexible, verging on the absurd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 As if Muhammed preached about short term bridging loans in the 21st century Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 The Muslim Council of Britain can cock off. What a load of old bollocks. What they are saying is true though: As a Muslim myself I certainly won't be buying the top with Wonga on it! What they are saying is true in reflecting their particular laws (though it's a joke that the journalists only start fishing for quotes over this particular deal), but the old bollocks I take issue with is the hard and fast rule they are holding onto in the first place. These kinds of short term, high risk loans fill a gap that has only appeared fairly recently and has a lot to do with the speed with which transfers and transactions can be done now. To apply this long standing Muslim law to it as a practice seems to me inflexible, verging on the absurd. Islam is all about perception: if you believe strongly that something is wrong then don't buy it. if you don't have an issue then don't buy it. Quite simple really........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 wasnt it 10 a year with virgin? Nearer 3m. how have those cowboys along the river got 20m ? They haven't, Sunderlands deal is up to £20m over the course of the sponsorship (2 years). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 The Muslim Council of Britain can cock off. What a load of old bollocks. What they are saying is true though: As a Muslim myself I certainly won't be buying the top with Wonga on it! What they are saying is true in reflecting their particular laws (though it's a joke that the journalists only start fishing for quotes over this particular deal), but the old bollocks I take issue with is the hard and fast rule they are holding onto in the first place. These kinds of short term, high risk loans fill a gap that has only appeared fairly recently and has a lot to do with the speed with which transfers and transactions can be done now. To apply this long standing Muslim law to it as a practice seems to me inflexible, verging on the absurd. Life is all about perception: if you believe strongly that something is wrong then font but it: if you don't have an issue then don't buy it. Quite simple really........... FYP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 The Muslim Council of Britain can cock off. What a load of old bollocks. What they are saying is true though: As a Muslim myself I certainly won't be buying the top with Wonga on it! But surely to a Muslim having Northern Rock/Virgin Money on their shirt would also be seen as wrong. All three names are of companies that base their entire business on interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Hmm, just read Llambias' interview in the Journal, seems sensible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Hmm, just read Llambias' interview in the Journal, seems sensible. Apart from the bile about them not getting enough credit for the summer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Many, many Muslims bank with British banks. I bet the Muslims in our team do as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mackem Logic Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Heard on the radio this morning that the leader of the city council is asking for a meeting with Ashley & Llambias to ask that they donate some of the sponsorship money to a debt councelling service.... So if they agreed (which I know is highly unlikely), will the council then give this deal their blessing then?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Hmm, just read Llambias' interview in the Journal, seems sensible. Apart from the bile about them not getting enough credit for the summer window. Aye wey he can't be seen as being totally agreeable on 'on side'. Plus he's an absolute stupid fat sleazy kernt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 The Muslim Council of Britain can cock off. What a load of old bollocks. What they are saying is true though: As a Muslim myself I certainly won't be buying the top with Wonga on it! What they are saying is true in reflecting their particular laws (though it's a joke that the journalists only start fishing for quotes over this particular deal), but the old bollocks I take issue with is the hard and fast rule they are holding onto in the first place. These kinds of short term, high risk loans fill a gap that has only appeared fairly recently and has a lot to do with the speed with which transfers and transactions can be done now. To apply this long standing Muslim law to it as a practice seems to me inflexible, verging on the absurd. Islam is all about perception: if you believe strongly that something is wrong then don't buy it. if you don't have an issue then don't buy it. Quite simple really........... I wish that was the case and it was all down to individual perception (like your good self when wearing a plain Newcastle top by choice, got a few Toff tops myself ), and that the religious law was open enough to interpretation to not get tripped up by new forms of business a few hundred years later. However, what we have here is the Muslim Council wading in and effectively telling a number of our players not to wear our shirt before they get a chance to form their own minds. And, forgive me, but that kinda grinds my gears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mackem Logic Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I wonder if the Muslim Council of Scotland got in touch with this fella, back in 2011... http://www.rangersrumours.co.uk/images/el-hadji-diouf-image-2-882480649.jpg Or is alcohol advertising ok? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 About it breaking Sharia Law..... Mesut Ozil reads the Quran before a match, yet goes out to play in a Bwin shirt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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themanupstairs Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Why has the British Muslim Council not taken concern with previous sponsorships? Betting companies, alcohol producers, companies like Standard Chartered? Did they advise all their muslim players to refuse to play in the Carling Cup last season? Morally and etichally do you approve of what Wonga do? Seriously though, does Wonga force people to borrow at such high interest rates? Wonga isn't for the penniless. It's for those who need a quick advance just before their wage comes in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 The Muslim Council of Britain can cock off. What a load of old bollocks. What they are saying is true though: As a Muslim myself I certainly won't be buying the top with Wonga on it! What they are saying is true in reflecting their particular laws (though it's a joke that the journalists only start fishing for quotes over this particular deal), but the old bollocks I take issue with is the hard and fast rule they are holding onto in the first place. These kinds of short term, high risk loans fill a gap that has only appeared fairly recently and has a lot to do with the speed with which transfers and transactions can be done now. To apply this long standing Muslim law to it as a practice seems to me inflexible, verging on the absurd. Islam is all about perception: if you believe strongly that something is wrong then don't buy it. if you don't have an issue then don't buy it. Quite simple really........... I wish that was the case and it was all down to individual perception (like your good self when wearing a plain Newcastle top by choice, got a few Toff tops myself ), and that the religious law was open enough to interpretation to not get tripped up by new forms of business a few hundred years later. However, what we have here is the Muslim Council wading in and effectively telling a number of our players not to wear our s*** before they gets a chance to form their own minds. And, forgive me, but that kinda grinds my gears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Why has the British Muslim Council not taken concern with previous sponsorships? Betting companies, alcohol producers, companies like Standard Chartered? Did they advise all their muslim players to refuse to play in the Carling Cup last season? Morally and etichally do you approve of what Wonga do? Seriously though, does Wonga force people to borrow at such high interest rates? Wonga isn't for the penniless. It's for those who need a quick advance just before their wage comes in. it should be, in truth it's for anyone, if it wasn't they'd be a lot more thorough on checking who it loans to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mackem Logic Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Why has the British Muslim Council not taken concern with previous sponsorships? Betting companies, alcohol producers, companies like Standard Chartered? Did they advise all their muslim players to refuse to play in the Carling Cup last season? Morally and etichally do you approve of what Wonga do? Seriously though, does Wonga force people to borrow at such high interest rates? Wonga isn't for the penniless. It's for those who need a quick advance just before their wage comes in. Agree with that last quote. Also as Dave has mentioned on here, I'm not sure how their advertising can be classed as 'preying on people'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I'd love to see some figures of how many lives have been ruined by Wonga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I personally don't think it's mainly the poor that use Wonga, it's more the people who have no patience at all, and feel they need things then and now. It's a problem with our modern day culture, gone are the days of saving up for something, then purchasing it when you have the money. Everything is all about the "now" and "must have it right this instant". Personally, people like that deserve to pay ridiculous interest and it serves them right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I'd love to see some figures of how many lives have been ruined by Wonga. It'll be a tiny percentage compared to alcohol or gambling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I'd love to see some figures of how many lives have been ruined by Wonga. Apparently their complaints are next to zero and there are banks and institutions with far worse feedback than Wonga. Not that that means a great hill of beans mind (it was Llambias and co just trotting out the numbers Wonga would have given them). Out of interest, I wonder what percentage of 'Lives Ruined' is acceptable. I'd probably go with between 2.8 and 4.5 percent of customers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Apparently they've got a 98% approval rating with their customers, more than any bank. Perhaps with them expanding into business loans and other services their brand won't be looked upon so negatively in the future. It's typical of Newcastle to get all this unwanted attention/media coverage. Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather we were sponsored by a blue chip electronics company, or a charity, but can we really afford to be picky given the current financial climate?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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