Guest BooBoo Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Carragher man, as if his voice alone wasn't ridiculous enough, he compounds it by using it to talk nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Oh, it came off an Irish player in the lead up to the goal. But Jelavic was offside from the initial shot. How that's not gaining an advantage I'm not sure. Having seen the replay again, it was an attempted "clearance" from the Irish player so guess that it's not offside if the defender had "control" of the situation? Yeah I know it came off a defender last, but Jelavic was already offside when the first shot was struck outside the box (as was another attacker). Presumably it classes as a second phase or whatever bollocks, but he clearly gained an advantage and that's what the rule is supposed to prevent. Don't think so. If the initial shot had gone in, you wouldn't have claimed it was offside, would you? Eh? In that case Jelavic wouldn't have gained an advantage. If the initial shot had gone straight to Jelavic who had controlled it then offside should definitely have been given. No doubt. My point is if he had been onside when the initial shot came in, then ran 'offside' and was still in that 'offside' position when the ball deflected off the Ireland player, you wouldn't argue that the goal shouldn't stand, would you? What position he was in during that initial shot is surely irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Wish Roy Keane just got out of his chair mid-sentence and 2 footed tackled Carragher in the face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Is that the same Carragher that was raped by Cisse this season? f*ck off you bitter c*nt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Carragher calling Cisse "sissy". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 judging by the Carragher comments on here, proper chuffed I went for a shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Oh, it came off an Irish player in the lead up to the goal. But Jelavic was offside from the initial shot. How that's not gaining an advantage I'm not sure. Having seen the replay again, it was an attempted "clearance" from the Irish player so guess that it's not offside if the defender had "control" of the situation? Yeah I know it came off a defender last, but Jelavic was already offside when the first shot was struck outside the box (as was another attacker). Presumably it classes as a second phase or whatever bollocks, but he clearly gained an advantage and that's what the rule is supposed to prevent. Don't think so. If the initial shot had gone in, you wouldn't have claimed it was offside, would you? Eh? In that case Jelavic wouldn't have gained an advantage. If the initial shot had gone straight to Jelavic who had controlled it then offside should definitely have been given. No doubt. My point is if he had been onside when the initial shot came in, then ran 'offside' and was still in that 'offside' position when the ball deflected off the Ireland player, you wouldn't argue that the goal wouldn't have stood, would you? What position he was in during that initial shot is surely irrelevant. Wouldn't have been a second phase then would it, just a bad back pass.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Anyone know why my downstairs light are not working? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Was impressed with Jelavic when we went down to Goodison... Caused us all sorts of problems... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Was impressed with Jelavic when we went down to Goodison... Caused us all sorts of problems... Still mildly irritated by our lazy performance that day. Stroll in the park for Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Jelavic has been as good if not better than Cisse according to Carragher? Almost as good as Cisse ok, as good? maybe arguable, but better?, what a clueless loon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Colossus Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Had on, didn't Carra just say an Everton player was good? Hope RAWK castrates him over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Oh, it came off an Irish player in the lead up to the goal. But Jelavic was offside from the initial shot. How that's not gaining an advantage I'm not sure. Having seen the replay again, it was an attempted "clearance" from the Irish player so guess that it's not offside if the defender had "control" of the situation? Yeah I know it came off a defender last, but Jelavic was already offside when the first shot was struck outside the box (as was another attacker). Presumably it classes as a second phase or whatever bollocks, but he clearly gained an advantage and that's what the rule is supposed to prevent. Don't think so. If the initial shot had gone in, you wouldn't have claimed it was offside, would you? Eh? In that case Jelavic wouldn't have gained an advantage. If the initial shot had gone straight to Jelavic who had controlled it then offside should definitely have been given. No doubt. My point is if he had been onside when the initial shot came in, then ran 'offside' and was still in that 'offside' position when the ball deflected off the Ireland player, you wouldn't argue that the goal wouldn't have stood, would you? What position he was in during that initial shot is surely irrelevant. It's about that extra advantage he gained by already being ahead of the last defender. Happens all the time that a ball gets a deflection or comes back off the keeper or a post, strikers often are more alive to the rebound than defenders. If he was level or better and a defender simply played him through with a wank clearance or whatever then fair enough if he beats the other defenders to the ball. If the initial shot had come back off the goalkeeper to Jelavic then IMO he should be given offside (if the officials spotted it). I don't think there's a difference with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 For the record Ward was fouled and that's why he miss kicked the ball to Jelavic. Not that it makes a difference now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Oh, it came off an Irish player in the lead up to the goal. But Jelavic was offside from the initial shot. How that's not gaining an advantage I'm not sure. Having seen the replay again, it was an attempted "clearance" from the Irish player so guess that it's not offside if the defender had "control" of the situation? Yeah I know it came off a defender last, but Jelavic was already offside when the first shot was struck outside the box (as was another attacker). Presumably it classes as a second phase or whatever bollocks, but he clearly gained an advantage and that's what the rule is supposed to prevent. Don't think so. If the initial shot had gone in, you wouldn't have claimed it was offside, would you? Eh? In that case Jelavic wouldn't have gained an advantage. If the initial shot had gone straight to Jelavic who had controlled it then offside should definitely have been given. No doubt. My point is if he had been onside when the initial shot came in, then ran 'offside' and was still in that 'offside' position when the ball deflected off the Ireland player, you wouldn't argue that the goal wouldn't have stood, would you? What position he was in during that initial shot is surely irrelevant. It's about that extra advantage he gained by already being ahead of the last defender. Happens all the time that a ball gets a deflection or comes back off the keeper or a post, strikers often are more alive to the rebound than defenders. If he was level or better and a defender simply played him through with a wank clearance or whatever then fair enough if he beats the other defenders to the ball. If the initial shot had come back off the goalkeeper to Jelavic then IMO he should be given offside (if the officials spotted it). I don't think there's a difference with this. Wasn't a rebound, though, was a clearance by the opposition. Surely two clearly separate phases. Anyway, it's a goal, regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 lols Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Given Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Oirish tears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Given's such a gay. Good bloke, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 :papiss: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Colossus Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 GIVEN OWN GOAL ;D ;D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Ah, that's really the end of that then. Ah well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Oh dear Shay.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 What a header!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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