Andy Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 4 minutes ago, Conjo said: I have no statistics to back this claim up, but I am certain the number of incorrect decisions without and with VAR aren't even remotely comparable. I dunno, I've been watching football a long time as I'm sure you have too, and it doesn't feel much different to me in terms of how often we're complaining about decisions. It just takes longer to reach those decisions and takes away the joy of scoring a goal, if there's an increase in accuracy it really isn't worth the trade off IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Aye var helps with the decisions against the big teams right enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 So glad we have the wonderful VAR to not give a penalty there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 What does he think has happened here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Abysmal decision not to give a penalty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 55 minutes ago, Andy said: I dunno, I've been watching football a long time as I'm sure you have too, and it doesn't feel much different to me in terms of how often we're complaining about decisions. It just takes longer to reach those decisions and takes away the joy of scoring a goal, if there's an increase in accuracy it really isn't worth the trade off IMO. That's because the expectations are way way higher. We complain about things we used to forget in 1 day. Try watching a bunch of highlights from games pre VAR. It was crazy. You will realise this if VAR goes away. Also, without VAR, won't the top teams get an even bigger advantage from refereeing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Think I will support Wolves here. Whats the point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Never knew you were allowed to trip someone in the box as long as your mate gets the ball. Interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Get rid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 4 minutes ago, The Prophet said: What does he think has happened here... My post had the worst timing to be honest, didn't see this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 7 minutes ago, The Prophet said: What does he think has happened here... I missed it right up until this angle like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 7 minutes ago, Erikse said: That's because the expectations are way way higher. We complain about things we used to forget in 1 day. Try watching a bunch of highlights from games pre VAR. It was crazy. You will realise this if VAR goes away. Also, without VAR, won't the top teams get an even bigger advantage from refereeing? I don't get this argument at all. "Wait and see what it's like without VAR". I've been an admin on this forum for two decades I've seen more football without VAR than with it, and certainly more than enough of both to make an informed decision on which I prefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Praying with all the fibre of my being that Jared Gillet is involved in a house fire very soon. Inept cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Andy said: I don't get this argument at all. "Wait and see what it's like without VAR". I've been an admin on this forum for two decades I've seen more football without VAR than with it, and certainly more than enough of both to make an informed decision Remember all the offside goals? Saying that there are not less big errors is just wrong. We obviously hold them to a higher standard since they have the replays. Which we should. But there ARE less big mistakes. We don't remember that well how it used to be, we have gotten used to VAR. Edited May 15 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 a perfect example of why it should be scrapped. Now we’re not just annoyed at the ref for not giving it but we’re also annoyed with VAR inexcusably not giving it. It’s been a failure and a massive waste of time and energy that adds nothing to the game from a fan’s perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 11 minutes ago, The Prophet said: What does he think has happened here... I think Gordon is unfairly impeded and therefore it should be a pen, but that image portrays a bit of a different situation. Amrabat doesn't deliberately go for him, he catches him accidentally. I don't think the on-field ref has a hope of spotting it in real-time whilst sprinting to catch up with the play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, Erikse said: Remember all the offside goals? Saying that there are not less big errors is just wrong. We obviously hold them to a higher standard since they have the replays. Which we should. But there ARE less big mistakes. You're arguing against an argument I'm not making. I've already said in several posts that automated offside should be maintained, and VAR eliminated for subjective calls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 5 minutes ago, Andy said: You're arguing against an argument I'm not making. I've already said in several posts that automated offside should be maintained, and VAR eliminated for subjective calls. I can agree on that. I don't know why the clubs didn't want automated offsides for this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 This is what corruption looks like. Holy fuck its so bad its almost unreal. Are we watching the same games, or is it a var-lottery for each situation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) And this tonight highlight one major problem with VAR. I don’t blame the ref as it took a few replays to see the contact on Gordon but the VAR officials go and look it and they can see the contact but because the onfield ref didn’t give it they won’t change it because of the ‘high threshold’ pish. They either want to re-ref the game using VAR or they don’t. They are somewhere in the middle and it doesn’t work Edited May 15 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, Yorkie said: I think Gordon is unfairly impeded and therefore it should be a pen, but that image portrays a bit of a different situation. Amrabat doesn't deliberately go for him, he catches him accidentally. I don't think the on-field ref has a hope of spotting it in real-time whilst sprinting to catch up with the play Hardly any fouls are deliberate. Most are just mistimed and clumsy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 I don’t think its corruption, i think it’s the fact there isn’t a single good referee in PGMOL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Gordon going in on VAR. Just fucking scrap it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, Yorkie said: I think Gordon is unfairly impeded and therefore it should be a pen, but that image portrays a bit of a different situation. Amrabat doesn't deliberately go for him, he catches him accidentally. I don't think the on-field ref has a hope of spotting it in real-time whilst sprinting to catch up with the play Yeah, this issue in this instance is VAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Literally dragged him down before kicking him. I actually felt he should have appealed more to the referee. He explained why he didn't but I think it can influence the decision. But he's right, he didn't lose the game based on that decision but it is still infuriating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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