Dogawful Officiating

[Benwell Lad]

5 minutes ago, geordiesteve710 said:

Yep- there's a reason Liverpool FC debase themselves and throw away their dignity when they're on the wrong end of these calls. They know fine well if they kick up enough of a fuss they will reap the benefits on the pitch.

 

This was possibly the worst and most scary aspect of yesterday's refereeing performance.

Madley allowed himself to be constantly harangued by groups of Chelsea players right through the game while they also demanded the game be stopped every time one of them decided to fall over.

Really weak refereeing which he eventually allowed to impact on his decision making instead of going the other way and making a firm stance.

[Lush Vlad]

18 minutes ago, Benwell Lad said:

 

This was possibly the worst and most scary aspect of yesterday's refereeing performance.

Madley allowed himself to be constantly harangued by groups of Chelsea players right through the game while they also demanded the game be stopped every time one of them decided to fall over.

Really weak refereeing which he eventually allowed to impact on his decision making instead of going the other way and making a firm stance.

Just sent the below to a mate, discussing the ref yesterday:

 

Thought the ref lost the plot in general. They had 6 yellows and one for Maresca. Diving, cheating, moaning all the while. Ref had it sussed first half. Then just gave them everything and us fuck all in the second. 

[Benwell Lad]

21 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

Just sent the below to a mate, discussing the ref yesterday:

 

Thought the ref lost the plot in general. They had 6 yellows and one for Maresca. Diving, cheating, moaning all the while. Ref had it sussed first half. Then just gave them everything and us fuck all in the second. 

 

Think Razor Raisbeck referred to them as "entitled" in the match highlights.

They were. Just typical entitled Kensington twats.

[KingArthur]

1 hour ago, Mattoon said:

 

It shouldn't be about the refs, but unfortunately it is, I love all those things you mentioned and they should have got us the win and would have were it not for an absolutely insipid display by Madley, that's when it becomes about the ref because we were good enough to win and should have all things being equal.

Yea but it is not just this time. Sometimes when we draw against Brighton or something, people are here saying ”ref was poor” or ”didnt give us anything”. It has become automatic thing to say: anyway, ref was shite. 

[KingArthur]

1 hour ago, Lush Vlad said:

Why are people still engaging with this absolute dullard. 
 

Page after page of mind numbing shit. 

I think the point of a football forum is to talk with people that disagree with you in some things. I have no need to call you names, and dont even know you. 

[KingArthur]

1 hour ago, KennyUtd said:

 

It's all part if it. The good and the bad man. Telling people not to moan because you don't is nonsense. Just don't read it and live in your own bubble where refs are great and everything evens itself out over a season. It really doesn't like.

Well, you can also live in your bubble were refs have a conspiracy against 19 teams.

[Hanshithispantz]

Literally a few pages before the Chelsea conversation, this page and next is people talking about games where VAR gave decisions our way, and nobody is doing what you're claiming. We lost at Brentford and nobody was arguing with the decision to send Burn off, and thought he should have been off sooner.

 

 

 

Edited December 21, 2025 by Hanshithispantz

[nufc123]

10 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

Yea but it is not just this time. Sometimes when we draw against Brighton or something, people are here saying ”ref was poor” or ”didnt give us anything”. It has become automatic thing to say: anyway, ref was shite. 

The one Veltman was diving left, right and centre? It was quite a bad one, and rightfully hounded out in this thread. 

[pubteam]

Rather than outright corruption I do feel referees are being told to let more go, but this just creates issues when they do decide to apply the law correctly and we have absolutely zero consistency. Teams seem to be playing with a more aggressive approach but are in the main getting away with it.

[Keggy_Keagal]

You could blatantly see Madeley was terrified of making some decisions and again waited for var.  

[KingArthur]

9 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

The one Veltman was diving left, right and centre? It was quite a bad one, and rightfully hounded out in this thread. 

This was just an example out of head, that this happens. And opposite fans say  Gordon is diving left right and centre etc. 

[madras]

18 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

Literally a few pages before the Chelsea conversation, this page and next is people talking about games where VAR gave decisions our way, and nobody is doing what you're claiming. We lost at Brentford and nobody was arguing with the decision to send Burn off, and thought he should have been off sooner.

 

 

 

 

I didn't, I think Burns sending off was very soft. Thiaw should've walked V Levekusen though.

[nufc123]

2 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

This was just an example out of head, that this happens. And opposite fans say  Gordon is diving left right and centre etc. 

If you dislike this thread so much why dont you just stay away from it?

[gbandit]

We’ve entered a new era of refereeing. 
 

Current era - Dont make a decision on the pitch so the match can be re-refereed by a VAR official. It’s fucking pathetic and another reason why VAR needs binning. These refs have far too much power already. Sort out VAR and sanction refs that dont actually make decisions on the pitch. It’s ruined football 

[KingArthur]

22 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

If you dislike this thread so much why dont you just stay away from it?

I have stayed away from this thread for like 20 years. 
 

Why is it so difficult to have civil conversation about this, when I just happen to diaagree with? Everyone here knows football fans are biased, still I am here being called all kinds of names for saying that. 

[KingArthur]

23 minutes ago, gbandit said:

We’ve entered a new era of refereeing. 
 

Current era - Dont make a decision on the pitch so the match can be re-refereed by a VAR official. It’s fucking pathetic and another reason why VAR needs binning. These refs have far too much power already. Sort out VAR and sanction refs that dont actually make decisions on the pitch. It’s ruined football 

I think you are right. Refs dont want to make a decision, they think that if it was a howler VAR will fix. And then they can say VAR didnt intervene when nothing happens. I understand they dont want to make mistakes, but not everything has to be looked at by VAR

[joeyt]

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Truly Madley awful: a tale of indecision

 

Saturday’s game against Chelsea was another in a long line of inadequate officiating that has seen VAR and the PGMOL plunging Premier League football into paralysis.

Andy Madley was the latest of Howard Webb’s whistlers seemingly incapable of making onfield decisions, unsupported by VAR officials unable to contradict their partners in crime’s uncertainty.

Madley appeared to be the only person in St. James' Park who couldn’t see that Trevor Chalobah’s challenge on Anthony Gordon was a penalty, until his colleague in Stockley Park, Peter Bankes backed up his indecisiveness. The laughable phrase “side-to-side shielding” being an apt description of one ref looking after another.

How Bankes was allowed to be the VAR official for Newcastle in the game following his derby blunders is another mystery that only Webb can answer.

But whether it was Andy Madley, Bankes, Sam Barrott or Craig Pawson, it matters not; they have all become rendered completely useless by a system that encourages vacillation.

Madley bottled every decision on Saturday, whether it be tackles or handballs in or out of the box, persistent fouling, disgraceful dissent or the pathetic injury feigning of Cole Palmer. All he did was fail to blow his whistle and point to his ear.

That wouldn’t be so bad if the VAR official was capable of pointing out the blindingly obvious, but they have now been directed not to make a decision that may undermine their pals.

So we have referees that defer to VAR rather than make onfield judgements and those in a TV studio hundreds of miles away also left ineffectual by a “clear and obvious" bar made so high that they are frightened to ask the match referee to review their own incompetence.

And it’s not just those with the whistle or VAR that can’t make decisions, linos are also now unable to flag for offside just in case a goal may follow a passage of play, even when they are 99% certain a player is offside.

That 1% is enough because VAR may determine that a single frame of footage could show that body parts may freakishly align to show players are actually onside. The phrase “matters of fact” is wrongly used about offsides.

For example, to all eyes in the stadium, Harry Kane was “a mile off” when he scored at SJP in Steve Bruce’s final game in charge but a random frame was found to show he wasn’t.

Alexander Isak was clearly onside in his Newcastle debut at Anfield but a terrible camera angle and a thick Red line arbitrarily drawn wrongly showed he was offside.

Well done to the FA and Howard Webb for totally destroying our game. Your ineptitude knows no bounds...

 

 

From .com

[KingArthur]

1 hour ago, joeyt said:

 

 

From .com

I get what they mean with that Isak goal,  but to many here, including Hans for example, Bruno was ”miles offside” for our second goal against City. Sometimes if it looks onside or offside on TV, it might not be. 
 

Nowadays it is semiautomatic anyway so they should get the easy ones right. Then it is different when there are cases like Robertson v City. 

[Lush Vlad]

KingArthur is definitely a ref and some wanker has flushed his trainers in a dirty bog, after he's incorrectly sent them off.  

[KingArthur]

31 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

KingArthur is definitely a ref and some wanker has flushed his trainers in a dirty bog, after he's incorrectly sent them off.  

[joeyt]

Imagine how disappointed the Madley parents are that their sons turned out to be referees. 

 

Worse than being a dog botherer

[Benwell Lad]

Just been reminded tonight (how could I forget?) that it was also Madley who blew the whistle for full time against Liverpool last season when we'd just got back to 3-3 and were breaking 3 on 1.

Trelford Mills only did it once. The Madleys have a catalogue of bent games against Newcastle.

[Colos Short and Curlies]

He's also the man responsible for Big Joe's rebirth as a midfielder being the one to self Clarke off.

 

Amazingly thats the only Toon player he has shown a red card to

[Armchair Pundit]

Did I just hear right that tomorrow's ref is from Greater Manchester?

[madras]

1 minute ago, Armchair Pundit said:

Did I just hear right that tomorrow's ref is from Greater Manchester?

Why did I read that in Gene Hunt's voice ?