huss9 Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 7 hours ago, Stifler said: The penalty Chelsea got last night was for the same thing they did against us, with far less force. They aren’t even pretending anymore. wasnt a shoulder though - it was a push, thats what they'll say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 51 minutes ago, huss9 said: wasnt a shoulder though - it was a push, thats what they'll say. I presume it's because of the legs getting caught up. But I've seen plenty of times that's been denied for us as a "natural coming together" or some shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 17 hours ago, Rafalove said: We only watched the first half round my sister’s - by the time we got home the game was done and my Villa wife couldn’t face it. Remember that Saka foul first half? The one where Villa are about to break and he just kicks the guy? Everyone else in the entire league gets a yellow for that except a Liverpool player at Anfield. (And Joelinton at St James’s Park ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 Leave big Joe out of this, his challenges can are strong but always fair. Anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 Quote The panel also voted the VAR Peter Bankes was correct not to advise that Newcastle should be given a spot-kick in their match against Chelsea on 20 December. Head coach Eddie Howe said the Magpies were refused a "stonewall" penalty when Chelsea defender Trevoh Chalobah barged Anthony Gordon to the ground. Newcastle led 2-1 at the time, and the game finished 2-2. The club said they would be "seeking clarification" about the decision. The panel felt referee Andy Madley should have awarded a spot-kick (3-2), but it didn't reach the threshold for a VAR intervention (3-2).Those in favour of a penalty said "Chalobah makes no challenge for the ball and makes reckless shoulder, hip and leg contact".But those against believed it was "robust shoulder-to-shoulder contact with the ball in playing distance". https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cz9vwvde2y0o Clear as mud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 15 minutes ago, Rafalove said: Leave big Joe out of this, his challenges can are strong but always fair. Anyway. Not a foul on Martinez, for me. Watched it over and over. Surprised it wasn’t given, mind. They usually are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 So Madley was wrong not to give the penalty but the panel felt it was a refs call and were happy for VAR not to get involved. Basically Madley gets the black mark rather than Bankes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 3 hours ago, Rafalove said: Leave big Joe out of this, his challenges can are strong but always fair. Anyway. Didn’t the ref have a word with Arteta about it at one point early in the first half? Then he just carried on immediately. It’s so frustrating. It’s a clear rule and there’s a fucking great big white line painted on the floor. Warn him once, then book him, then send him off. It’s not complicated. Do the same for everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 6 minutes ago, leffe186 said: Didn’t the ref have a word with Arteta about it at one point early in the first half? Then he just carried on immediately. It’s so frustrating. It’s a clear rule and there’s a fucking great big white line painted on the floor. Warn him once, then book him, then send him off. It’s not complicated. Do the same for everyone. He does it every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 Wasn’t it Arsenal that complained about Tindall always being in the technical area, as well? Leading to them changing the rules. Might have misremembered. But the cheek of it if it was them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 46 minutes ago, Rafalove said: He does it every game. Yup, which is why you start actually policing it. Until you do he will continue to do so. Like Saka with the foul stopping the break. There’s no incentive to stop, so they won’t, and there’s a genuine advantage being gained. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 https://www.facebook.com/share/v/173J4ZxCwV/ How did this go against us man,gets worse wit every viewing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 On 31/12/2025 at 18:00, joeyt said: "robust shoulder-to-shoulder contact with the ball in playing distance". So you can knock someone down as long as the ball is within playing distance? And this is a quote they’ve actually thought long and hard about before releasing publicly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Hang on, didn’t VAR at the time say that Chalobah was shielding the ball? They’re now saying it was a shoulder charge instead and, 3 of the panel saying it didn’t meet the threshold of a clear and obvious error? Dear me, surely the first question is where was first contact, thigh or shoulder and that’s it, debate over, it’s a penalty? Embarrassing stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 31/12/2025 at 22:45, leffe186 said: Yup, which is why you start actually policing it. Until you do he will continue to do so. Like Saka with the foul stopping the break. There’s no incentive to stop, so they won’t, and there’s a genuine advantage being gained. It does my fucking head in how he runs around willy nilly literally every game. I'd love to hear why he's never ever punished for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 31/12/2025 at 17:46, Rafalove said: Leave big Joe out of this, his challenges can are strong but always fair. Anyway. be hilarious if he gets absolutely flattened doing this at some point this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Another absolute cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I’m sure Miley had already kicked that? Blowing early and warning Hughes for giving away a penalty. Horrendous reffing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 If you're in favour of VAR on offsides you are anti-football. "But there's got to be a line somewhere " Nah, there actually doesn't. Applying video game standards to real life. Absolutely fucking miserable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Only issue is that it's not quicker. There does have to be a line somewhere and it is a binary thing similar to goalline technology. Get it as quick as that and that can be ticked off as problem solved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) Just seen Wirtz equaliser against Fulham and it's 100% offside if you look at the line on the grass. Now I've heardthere’s a 5cm tolerance level or benefit of the doubt which I've never heard of before until now thought it was no tolerance. Of course it's Liverpool who benefits 🙄 Edited January 4 by Pokerprince2004 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Thought the referee was largely good today, which is rare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just now, Rich said: Thought the referee was largely good today, which is rare. I think you'll find lots of people disagreeing with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 27 minutes ago, Pokerprince2004 said: Just seen Wirtz equaliser against Fulham and it's 100% offside if you look at the line on the grass. Now I've heardthere’s a 5cm tolerance level or benefit of the doubt which I've never heard of before until now thought it was no tolerance. Of course it's Liverpool who benefits 🙄 Just watching this on Sky now, even Carragher is saying it’s off. VAR is fucking hopeless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 What the fuck is that Wirtz decision? He’s further offside than Wissa was. My big issue with VAR and offsides is the still they used to determine Wissa was offside was after the ball had already been played, the ball is clearly moving through the air rather than when contact with the ball is first made. That fraction of a second could make all the difference. They’ll never be able to perfect that so we’re measuring people’s toe hairs being offside (unless you’re Liverpool and we apply a new tolerance) yet we can’t even get the right frame to measure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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