Mick Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 This one: Don't have my copy up here with me, but I think he said something like this: "I cornered Laurent more than any other player I've worked with; in the dressing room, on the training ground and in the boardroom twice. We'd ask him again and again, 'do you understand your defensive responsibilities?'" That doesn't really narrow it down, what was it called? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 In theory you can look at it as though we've nowt to play for the rest of the season therefore we should be picking our team as entertaining as it gets and with light shining on whats going to happen next season therefore start him every game if he's not injured. i think he will, don't think wide right will get the best from him though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Robson was constantly having a go at Robert for not tracking back. Did he drop him for it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Robson was constantly having a go at Robert for not tracking back. Did he drop him for it? Twice, actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Robson was constantly having a go at Robert for not tracking back. Did he drop him for it? putting everything together i'm not sure ben arfa has been dropped for not tracking back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 'He has to learn the culture of the game. We don't want him to defend all the time. His main job is to create, but there are times when we need him to help out.' - Robson on Robert, April 2002. And before people start, I've never seen anywhere where Pardew has said he wants HBA to "defend all the time" either. Has anybody claimed that Pardew has asked him to defend all of the time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 'He has to learn the culture of the game. We don't want him to defend all the time. His main job is to create, but there are times when we need him to help out.' - Robson on Robert, April 2002. And before people start, I've never seen anywhere where Pardew has said he wants HBA to "defend all the time" either. Has anybody claimed that Pardew has asked him to defend all of the time? some seem to be trying to make it appear that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 'He has to learn the culture of the game. We don't want him to defend all the time. His main job is to create, but there are times when we need him to help out.' - Robson on Robert, April 2002. And before people start, I've never seen anywhere where Pardew has said he wants HBA to "defend all the time" either. Has anybody claimed that Pardew has asked him to defend all of the time? No but I know what this forum's like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 In theory you can look at it as though we've nowt to play for the rest of the season therefore we should be picking our team as entertaining as it gets and with light shining on whats going to happen next season therefore start him every game if he's not injured. i think he will, don't think wide right will get the best from him though. Can't see him playing anywhere else given our personel unless we revert to outside wingers and swap Jonas. Cisse is another one, regardless of how poor/uninvolved he might be needs minutes this season to get up to speed to hit the ground running next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Twice, actually. I'll take your word for it, I can't remember it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Twice, actually. I'll take your word for it, I can't remember it. I can. Hugo replaced him in the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Robson was constantly having a go at Robert for not tracking back. Did he drop him for it? putting everything together i'm not sure ben arfa has been dropped for not tracking back. So why was he dropped then in favor of the likes of Obertan and Raylor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Robson was constantly having a go at Robert for not tracking back. Did he drop him for it? putting everything together i'm not sure ben arfa has been dropped for not tracking back. So why was he dropped then in favor of the likes of Obertan and Raylor? did he ever start consistently enough to consider himself dropped? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 " Party in our half" I nominate this as the title of the nufc season review DVD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 " Party in our half" I nominate this as the title of the nufc season review DVD. Seconded. Very witty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Alpal, judging by his recent performances and interview Mayne he just wasn't right, physicallu or mentally. Yes even in that state he'd ne better than those two but it could be creating bigger problems for later. Not saying that's how it was, just putting some things together to see what comes up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 " Party in our half" I nominate this as the title of the nufc season review DVD. Pardy surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deadmau5 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Alpal, judging by his recent performances and interview Mayne he just wasn't right, physicallu or mentally. Yes even in that state he'd ne better than those two but it could be creating bigger problems for later. Not saying that's how it was, just putting some things together to see what comes up. Whatever he was going through, starting Obertan over him every week and letting him rot on the bench was not the right solution. When has that ever sorted a fotballer? Luckily he held his tongue and got back into pardews good books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 " Party in our half" I nominate this as the title of the nufc season review DVD. Pardy surely. WIN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deadmau5 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 " Party in our half" I nominate this as the title of the nufc season review DVD. I remember our narrow wins early this season, where we were getting battered for long patches. After the game Pardew was over the moon, seems like he doesnt mind if the other team completely controls the game as long as we are compact and pull off a sneaky 1-0 win. The problem is, that strategy is more likely to cause a few in the back of kruls net, since we dont have Mourinhos Inter back-4... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 " Party in our half" I nominate this as the title of the nufc season review DVD. Pardy surely. Where's matty p and his photoshop skills? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 " Party in our half" I nominate this as the title of the nufc season review DVD. I remember our narrow wins early this season, where we were getting battered for long patches. After the game Pardew was over the moon, seems like he doesnt mind if the other team completely controls the game as long as we are compact and pull off a sneaky 1-0 win. The problem is, that strategy is more likely to cause a few in the back of kruls net, since we dont have Mourinhos Inter back-4... It's less likely to concede goals than any other strategy tbqh. You're wrong there. The problem with Pardew is his application of strategies. Sometimes it is far more beneficial to go out and press the opponents into their own half and assert a dominance over the game. The Wolves game springs to mind immediately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deadmau5 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 " Party in our half" I nominate this as the title of the nufc season review DVD. I remember our narrow wins early this season, where we were getting battered for long patches. After the game Pardew was over the moon, seems like he doesnt mind if the other team completely controls the game as long as we are compact and pull off a sneaky 1-0 win. The problem is, that strategy is more likely to cause a few in the back of kruls net, since we dont have Mourinhos Inter back-4... It's less likely to concede goals than any other strategy tbqh. You're wrong there. Well, setting us up to defend is obviously going to make us harder to break down, but when Coloccini has to guys to his right who cant play fotball we are going to concede anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 So what are you suggesting, we take a less defensive approach, which will further expose their deficiencies? Just go for lots of goals in the hope that we somehow manage to score more than we concede? We certainly don't have the players to play a dominant control game fwiw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deadmau5 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 So what are you suggesting, we take a less defensive approach, which will further expose their deficiencies? Just go for lots of goals in the hope that we somehow manage to score more than we concede? We certainly don't have the players to play a dominant control game fwiw. That is precisely what I am saying. Every team in this league bar a few has a few weak positions, we are not unique in that respect. You relieve them of pressure by taking the game to further up the pitch, not by making that very position a last stand where you pull down wingers to fortify it. Simpson and Raylor are going to bottle it vs good wingers anyway, regardless.By dropping your midfield wingers deep, you are instantly creating pressure by letting their wingbacks worry about nothing. They arent going to stay deep their half for no reason you know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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