Ritchie Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 He's going to get dropped when Ba and Cisse come in, isn't he? :'( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 He'll be gone in summer. Think we'll go for zaha from palace to play the barfa role. I agree he needs a full pre season and a settled run in a fixed position, just can't see him being here long enough to get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Terrible again, and forced us to play in a formation we simply aren't comfortable with. I didn't realise he was picking the team like? Fwiw he's had his better games playing in a 4-4-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 We'll see. i'm going to enjoy him while I can. In particular having a genuinely unpredictable talent in the team/ squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 He'll be gone in summer. Think we'll go for zaha from palace to play the barfa role. I agree he needs a full pre season and a settled run in a fixed position, just can't see him being here long enough to get it. Absolute nonsense to write him off like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Read it again, I'm not writing him off, I'm saying what I think the club will do with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 He's getting treated shockingly imo. He's shown infinitely more than Shola and Obertan who have been given a ridiculous amount of chances. Ben Arfa works hard as part of the team like Pardew wanted, gets a couple of goals and an assist or two and he's dropped whenever there's the slightest excuse to. It's fucking bullshit tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 He'll be gone in summer. Think we'll go for zaha from palace to play the barfa role. I agree he needs a full pre season and a settled run in a fixed position, just can't see him being here long enough to get it. Nah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I hope Pardew realises that he can play in a 4-4-2 soon. It seems simple enough to me, stick him wide midfield, let him roam a bit and link attacking play, he doesn't need to be the world's best, defensively. Perhaps the signing of Cisse is a sign of things to come, that we're becoming a bit more of a dynamic team etc. I'm really hoping so, watching constant long ball is a bit of a pain at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Sadly i can see this only ending one way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 He's getting treated shockingly imo. He's shown infinitely more than Shola and Obertan who have been given a ridiculous amount of chances. Ben Arfa works hard as part of the team like Pardew wanted, gets a couple of goals and an assist or two and he's dropped whenever there's the slightest excuse to. It's f***ing bullshit tbh. He hasn't been dropped Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Sadly i can see this only ending one way. Well football careers only finishes in 2 ways, retirement or a transfer , which one is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Pardew clearly doesn't trust him playing wide in 4-4-2 and has changed formation because of it, which doesn't make any sense to me. After saying he only wanted to play him in middle earlier in the season why you'd play Best wide and Jonas in middle is beyond me. Think Steve Kean made Pardew look a bit silly tonight, which is worrying. So Pardew's changed the entire shape of the team for someone he's repeatedly left out and even took off at half time tonight? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Sadly i can see this only ending one way. Well football careers only finishes in 2 ways, retirement or a transfer , which one is it? Retirement, as a great... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 This time it was the correct decision to bring him off. Very poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 He's getting treated shockingly imo. He's shown infinitely more than Shola and Obertan who have been given a ridiculous amount of chances. Ben Arfa works hard as part of the team like Pardew wanted, gets a couple of goals and an assist or two and he's dropped whenever there's the slightest excuse to. It's f***ing bullshit tbh. He hasn't been dropped Whenever anyone is there to be dropped or subbed, it always seems to be him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGSC Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Barely even noticed him playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 This time it was the correct decision to bring him off. Very poor. It wasn't correct IMO, he wasn't playing well, but he was nowhere near the worst player for us today. Why not take Ameobi off, who was so shocking its hard to find words to describe it. Certain players are protected above others no matter how they perform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorin Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 There's a difference as Ameobi's physical presence locks opponents defensive line, whilst HBA doesn't. Although, I didn't really think he was THAT bad in the first half, a couple of bad touches etc., but Ameobi is all bad touch so then again? I really hope that we can try to change the long ball passing style into something more... interesting. If we only could get some passers into the team again... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 This time it was the correct decision to bring him off. Very poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 This time it was the correct decision to bring him off. Very poor. Nah. Pardew treats Ben Arfa differently to the entire squad, and plenty do on here too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 He was really frustrating and we did look slightly better when he came off, hope he still starts the Villa game though because on his day he can destroy a team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 This time it was the correct decision to bring him off. Very poor. The midfield was being overrun. He wasn't contributing. If any other player was as bad as he was - everyone on here would be making up derogatory nicknames. When HBA is shite, then it is the fault of the players around him. He's not as good as many of you hoped. Get over it. Hopefully he will improve his game and earn some playing time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Was 100% the correct decision to take him off and strengthen the midfield today, even if it's unfortunate that the best player we could put on in that position was James Perch. We would have lost heavily without that tactical change. Don't know what's up with him these last two games really, been utterly, utterly shit. He's always been a bit erratic before but never quite to this level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordstrom Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Ben Arfa's performances are reliant on our command in the midfield area which was lacking today. Guthrie likes to move forward and the other CM spot wasn't filled by a natural CM. If we took Shola instead of Ben Arfa off for Perch, I think we may have seen an improvement in his performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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