Dan Gleebals Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Haven't seen enough from Marveaux to have a valid opinion of whether he could play as part of a front 3. From what I have seen he certainly looks very technical, but looks like he might be better suited to sitting a little deeper and pulling the strings. Both could play the role from a deeper starting point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Marveaux certainly used to be a (very good) left winger. Should have it in him still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I don't think a wide forward/winger role suits Marveaux tbh, he strikes me as a wide midfielder more than anything. Interesting comment from Beardsley but I don't think they're really comparable players. HBA is a forward, Marveaux is a midfielder and they have different skill sets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 HBA is up there with Beardsley and first six months Ginola for getting fans off their seats. Robert just behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon_Mad_Chris Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Theirs normally a video with his every touch during a game on a video website by now. Might actually have to download the full match and do it me self at this rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Theirs normally a video with his every touch during a game on a video website by now. Might actually have to download the full match and do it me self at this rate. Do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 HBA is up there with Beardsley and first six months Ginola for getting fans off their seats. Robert just behind. Haven't seen enough of Beardsley at least not live in St James, but does he really dribble like HBA on a consistent basis? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Beardsley wasn't as fast as HBA but had incredible close control and was a much bigger goal threat as he could shoot with accuracy from anywhere. Basically, the most complete second striker I've seen in the shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 HBA is up there with Beardsley and first six months Ginola for getting fans off their seats. Robert just behind. Haven't seen enough of Beardsley at least not live in St James, but does he really dribble like HBA on a consistent basis? Yes, mainly in his pants these days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThievingMagpie Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Beardsley wasn't as fast as HBA but had incredible close control and was a much bigger goal threat as he could shoot with accuracy from anywhere. Basically, the most complete second striker I've seen in the shirt. Ben Arfa is a better creator while Beardsley was the better finisher imo, both could take games and win them but Beardsley edges it for me imo, not as good a dribbler but had amazing control and his long shots are something even Alan Shearer would be green with envy over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Beardsley was, for me, the most complete player I've ever seen in the Black & White. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Beardsley was invariable the hardest worker on the pitch too, very rare you get that from a player which such ridiculous natural talent. To the YouTube machine... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I don't think a wide forward/winger role suits Marveaux tbh, he strikes me as a wide midfielder more than anything. Interesting comment from Beardsley but I don't think they're really comparable players. HBA is a forward, Marveaux is a midfielder and they have different skill sets. Some good posts last two pages Yorkie refreshed my memory of that shoulder drop turn - remarkable how in the first game back with everyone looking a tiny bit rusty ben arfa still had 4 or 5 mouth-watering moments of class, a couple that ended up contributing to goals. As for Marveaux - I don't think he's quite explosive enough for a wide striking role - however you look at Mata and Silva (or even Nasri) and at times they have played as part of a front 3 in a nominally wide role where they drift around and drop back a bit to act more as final-third playmakers. I see Marveaux as more that kind of player than a Ben Arfa or Podolski style wide forward who might be more about tricks, pace or directness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder Hatem Ben Arfa won't travel to Greece on Weds as the player is suspended following a ban picked up a UEFA ban with Marseille #nufc Breaking news that, Lee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Ben Arfa and Beardsley are quite different so pretty incomparable, but they are definitely the two most naturally gifted players I've ever seen at NUFC. Both can (or could in Pedro's case) just go past players like they're not even there with incredible close control. Such a privilege watching Ben Arfa play the game just as it was with Beardsley, we're fortunate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder Hatem Ben Arfa won't travel to Greece on Weds as the player is suspended following a ban picked up a UEFA ban with Marseille #nufc Breaking news that, Lee I actually didn't know that How long is the ban? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuneaton Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 HBA is up there with Beardsley and first six months Ginola for getting fans off their seats. Robert just behind. Haven't seen enough of Beardsley at least not live in St James, but does he really dribble like HBA on a consistent basis? Yes, mainly in his pants these days nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Kinda good news in a twisted, roundabout way. We're forced into not taking him, rather than tussling over a potentially regretful decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Do people think he's the most important player in the squad as regards our chances of getting CL football (by chances I mean, very unlikely chances)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Colo for me like. Even without HBA we still have some decent firepower. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Do people think he's the most important player in the squad as regards our chances of getting CL football (by chances I mean, very unlikely chances)? Colo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 It's really difficult to pinpoint a 'most important player' in this team. We've got three out-and-out matchwinners, and i'd say that losing any of them would be a severe dent to any Champions League ambitions. The likes of Tiote and Coloccini are also absolutely vital, as is Cabaye. But so long as that front three is fit and firing, there's a chance we could win any game - regardless of the eight players supporting them imo. We proved that yesterday in the absence of Colo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I agree about pinpointing most important players being stupid but I think the link between getting to CL football sometimes requires an attacking player that is really rare. Someone who drives the team towards seemingly unlikely victories. I think HBA is capable of that in the way that his individual talent can win matches in a way others maybe can't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Someone should tweet the Giggs smiley to Ryder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 It's good that we can have this debate, where as for the Mackems every post would be "Sess". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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