TRon Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Jonas will be back, no two ways about it. The only way Hatem will stay in the side is if we go with just one forward, and I can't see that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 For a brief moment we had genuine wide threat with Remy and HBA. Can't have that though, must go back to offering nothing at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 after 'managing' the majority of the same group of players for some time now you would think he would have enough tactical nous to get the best out of each player, ie. what position suits which player best but it seems he's still in his "test, fail, tweak, re-test" mode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 NUFC : 7 points. HBA directly involved in 6. Probably on the bench against Cardiff because he didn't play left back at Goodison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 NUFC : 7 points. HBA directly involved in 6. Probably on the bench against Cardiff because he didn't play left back at Goodison. Or maybe not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 NUFC : 7 points. HBA directly involved in 6. Probably on the bench against Cardiff because he didn't play left back at Goodison. Or maybe not. The "maybe" is the problem Seriously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I would actually be amazed in HBA was benched for Cardiff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I would actually be amazed in HBA was benched for Cardiff. I'll be absolutely fuming if he's on the bench, but with Pardew sadly that wouldn't surprise me one bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 If the full backs were capable of defending this wouldn't be anywhere near a problem. Unfortunately they struggle massively in this department. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 One way to completely lose any remaining support he might have is to bench a potential match winner and fan's favourite. I fully expect him to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I would actually be amazed in HBA was benched for Cardiff. This. Just can't see it happening in the slightest considering Pardew has always known of Ben Arfa's lack of defensive ability, he would have been out the team a long time ago if he always judged him on this. One poor defensive game and he's out the side completely, not for me like . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I would actually be amazed in HBA was benched for Cardiff. This. Just can't see it happening in the slightest considering Pardew has always known of Ben Arfa's lack of defensive ability, he would have been out the team a long time ago if he always judged him on this. One poor defensive game and he's out the side completely, not for me like . He had a poor offensive game. Look at the first goal et tell me if he was in position to put a "tackle" ( ) or track back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I would actually be amazed in HBA was benched for Cardiff. This. Just can't see it happening in the slightest considering Pardew has always known of Ben Arfa's lack of defensive ability, he would have been out the team a long time ago if he always judged him on this. One poor defensive game and he's out the side completely, not for me like . He had a poor offensive game. Look at the first goal et tell me if he was in position to put a "tackle" ( ) or track back. Offensively he was still looking our brightest spark, fair enough he lost the ball a few times but at least he was having a go at them unlike some. However he allowed Coleman to drive on past on a couple of occasions and Mirallas and Coleman were looking a threat for the full 45 minutes whilst Baines was contained to an extent with Gouffran on other side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I can't see Ben Arfa getting dropped for Jonas if that's what people are worried about. I think Jonas (has he ever been dropped by Pardew?) will more than likely see us go 4-4-2 with Jonas wide left and Ben Arfa wide right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I can't see Ben Arfa getting dropped for Jonas if that's what people are worried about. I think Jonas (has he ever been dropped by Pardew?) will more than likely see us go 4-4-2 with Jonas wide left and Ben Arfa wide right. Or Jonas wide left and Gouffran wide right. (After reading both Ryder and Douglas writing Cissé and Ben Arfa "might" be on the bench) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Remy Gouffran Jonas Tiote Cabaye Sissoko Dummett Colo Willo Debuchy I'm guessing a lot on here think the line up will be something like that if you're going off what Lee Ryder says. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Remy Gouffran Jonas Tiote Cabaye Sissoko Dummett Colo Willo Debuchy I'm guessing a lot on here think the line up will be something like that if you're going off what Lee Ryder says. For me, something like that yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 We'll probably play a goalkeeper tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Hopefullly this is just a kick up the backside for HBA who will be responding in training and will get a start (?? wishful thinking) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Lunacy to even consider dropping Ben Arfa, yet I wouldn't be surprised tbh. If Pardew does bottle it and revert back to 4-4-2 with the usual suspects, he should be sacked on the spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 We'll probably play a goalkeeper tbf Oh aye, sorry Lee Ryder also has Krul dropped because he's been shit and at fault for goals, Elliot starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Remy Cisse Jonas Tiote Cabaye Gouffran Santon Colo Willo Debuchy Krul I'm guessing a lot on here think the line up will be something like that if you're going off what Lee Ryder says. Couple of changes there. If we're going 4-4-2 i'd think that could be a likely line-up. Maybe HBA for Gouff but i'm undecided whether he'll bench him or not. I wouldn't be surprised if he did but neither if he started. I think more likely to go to 4-2-3-1 (4-5-1 the way we play it) such as: Cisse Remy Cabaye Gouffran or HBA Jonas Tiote Santon Colo Willo Debuchy Krul Could just as easily see Anita in there for Jonas. He could do fucking anything to be honest, not a lot would surprise me and that's the biggest worry of all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Lunacy to even consider dropping Ben Arfa, yet I wouldn't be surprised tbh. If Pardew does bottle it and revert back to 4-4-2 with the usual suspects, he should be sacked on the spot. It depends on the result. Pardew will figure if we can keep it solid at the back, we might get a goal from Remy or Gouffran. After the first half at Everton he'll be more bothered about keeping a clean sheet and getting something from the game than playing fancy football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Dropping Hatem Ben Arfa for Jonas Gutierrez ffs. At the stage now where any result that moves Pardew closer to the door is a good one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Maybe we should wait until he actually does it before we crucify him for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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