David28 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Would really consider bringing on a second forward for Vuckic instead of Ben Arfa. The system isn't working and Ba needs support badly. Agree. Best or even Shola tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Think Vuckic might ultimately be better in midfield proper. Not sure he's quick enough with the ball in that No. 10 role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Anyone who can replace Obertan? Might as well be a fucking corpse in fixtures like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dell Boi Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 We are so fucking frustrating it's unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Think Vuckic might ultimately be better in midfield proper. Not sure he's quick enough with the ball in that No. 10 role. Wide left I was thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 The system isn't working. If you play 4-5-1, you've got to try to keep the ball on the deck, and we don't have the players to do that - particularly the full backs. I don't know how bad Santon might be as a defender, but he can't do a worse job than Ryan Taylor at the moment. Vuckic doesn't seem to have the pace or movement for that role. Not his fault that he's struggling. Hopefully we'll still be level by the time Ben Arfa comes on. What? Of course we do. I agree that the full-backs aren't the best footballers on the pitch for us, but we've got a crux of players through the middle that should enable us to play a bit of carpet football. There have been some fleeting glances of it throughout, and we've looked infinitely more threatening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Think Vuckic might ultimately be better in midfield proper. Not sure he's quick enough with the ball in that No. 10 role. Quite funny anyway that he's playing in THAT Nr. 10 role that is ONLY for HBA... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 im i the only one that thinks we are playing quite well? compared to the smash it upfield football we been dishing out for last 4 games, i think we havent looked that badly, liverpool are a decent side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Craig-NUFC Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Think it's the tactics letting Vuckic down more than him being shit. He needs the ball to his feet, not in the air. Also been a few times where he's made good runs and players haven't passed to him. Only Cabaye who has given it to him if he has been the best pass. Couple of throw ins where he made a run and Raylor aimed straight to Ba with 2 men around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 so, I'm not watching it, just relying on internet info but ... 'shocking half from us' and comments like that ... its 1-1 at Anfield ... Ok, we might be fortunate that we are still in it, but, I'm happy at the moment, would be happy if this was the end result, and we can change with our subs - I'm sure after the Bolton game, Pardew will give Ben Arfa 30 mins at least - and sounds like Santon's on soon bit more optimism justified ?? Oohh, I'm sure we're all delighted with the score at the moment, but the fact we've barely strung two passes together puts it into perspective. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Id chuck on Best for Vuckic, we need the ball to stick better up top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Problem is in terms of Taylor, it was a beautiful ball in that got us the goal. Can Santon do that? [/Pardew] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I'd be bringing Shola on before bringing Best on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 im i the only one that thinks we are playing quite well? compared to the smash it upfield football we been dishing out for last 4 games, i think we havent looked that badly, liverpool are a decent side. Aye. Thought there'd be much more long ball shit than there was today. Still hopefull. Santon for Raylor has to happen, though. And Best/Shola or HBA for Vuckic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Tiote has played really well bar that dodgy pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Why have we been persisting with this hoof-ball nonsense when it's been made absolutely clear that it's no good for us? We've got one man up top so the chances of getting the ball down are limited, and even if we do, he's all on his own and will lose it anyway. It's absolutely pointless. People are probably right in saying that this isn't the game for Vuckic, but it's as much because we're not playing the right sort of football, as his nerves. Frustrating. There's something in this for us because i haven't been impressed by Liverpool. Good point, we don't need to turn to Best/Shola yet, Ben Arfa in the same system should still improve us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 team is not playing well. No movement off the ball and our pressing is horrible with some putting pressure all over the field and some staying back. No balance in the squad whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Liverpool have looked poor, definitely there for the taking. We scored and suddenly something clicked and we start to panic. That spurred them on and it's been all them since, but all huff and puff and not enough clinical chances. We just keep hoofing the ball back to them whereas if we just held onto it and passed it around, we'd put some pressure on them. We really need to get support up to Ba and need to make more of the shitloads of space Liverpool are giving to Tiote in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I'd be bringing Shola on before bringing Best on. how dare you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Mainly Obertan, Jonas and Ryan Taylor are so f***ing frustrating it's unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 At times we've looked solid and at other times we've squandered possession. Vuckic has done nothing of note, Obertan hasn’t been in the game and once again, Ryan Taylor is in hiding. He’s a really, really, poor defender who either gets skinned or just doesn’t even bother defending the winger, he hides. To be fair he has put in a good cross for the goal and he does put his head in where it hurts in the middle but that’s not his game. As a right back his game should be defending the winger and he’s not doing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Id chuck on Best for Vuckic, we need the ball to stick better up top. Oh come on. Best to keep the ball? Have we not gone through this already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 This commentary is ridiculous. They make no attempt to even appear neutral. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Techinically our two wide players have been very poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pleno1 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Jonas as always has been fucking brutally bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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